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DH collections bringing me down.

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SoddingSoda · 17/06/2024 11:05

I maybe placing too much stress on this ‘issue’ as the cause of my frustrations. I do have a DD (9 months) and maybe next year when I’ve slept more this won’t be such a big issue.

DH is a collector and has lots of perfectly organised boxes full of his collections. He also has perfectly organised boxes of his possessions from a child. Imagine collecting a magazine for a few years as a child, that’s there. Or a box filled of old football boots. Every sporting medal, scout badge, swimming certificate etc. He also collects film memorabilia, which has filled boxes upon boxes. Anything he sees from a couple of franchises he has to buy. He feels by putting it in the loft is a favour to me as he’d prefer to have it out on display in the house. I did mention where he’d like to put his thousand car hot wheel collection? Maybe between the tins of beans or on my make up table…. He does have our office to have shelves filled of this stuff, and whilst there maybe one item from a collection in the other rooms I did have to curb it from taking over.

They have been living in the garage but due to damp/DH finally finishing to board the loft they’ve been moved up there.

They take up exactly 50% of the loft which he feels is fair. But, if I was to put equal amount up there it would then become impossible for the majority of it to be accessed (which he also agrees). I also think he’s probably filled 65% of the space. He wants to be able to access his collections, not just store them.

However the remaining amount of things to go into the loft isn’t really my possessions. Which if it was wouldn’t be an issue as I’m not a hoarder. It’s things such as the Christmas tree/decorations, suitcases, things that DD have grown out of but we’re keeping for the next baby. Useful things that I don’t want to slimline (Xmas decs are tree decs, lights and few misc items - nothing crazy).

He’s spent the last few weekends sorting out his collections, updating his excel document of what he’s got, and what he’s missing.

AIBU to be annoyed that the Christmas tree isn’t my procession and that it’s a problem that he’s got more space for toys/childhood processions that my DD will have. I also want to put a ban on him collecting. He needs to slimline what he’s got before thinking of adding anymore to it…

He’s quite proud that he’s got the loft to 50% his possessions. He’s at work and I’ve been in a foul mood about it all morning. I really don’t want to be a nagging/controlling person but should I draw a hard line on this?

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Demonhunter · 18/06/2024 21:04

@SoddingSoda Could he not build himself a leak proof shed and store them correctly in there?

PorridgeEater · 18/06/2024 20:40

"He has said if I asked him to sell it all he would" so ask him. And get rid of the football boots.
Maybe if he could get rid of things in a slightly useful way it would help? e.g. old boots/shoes can be recycled.

AnnieSnap · 18/06/2024 20:35

You may need to consider that he may have OCD, or Aspergers. Collecting to that level is a ‘personality’ issue. It’s not a big deal in the great scheme of things. Is it really the collection that is bothering you so much? Are there other issues? If not and you have a good relationship, I’d gently say you need to be more tolerant about the stuff in the garage.

Dogsbreath7 · 18/06/2024 20:29

norfolkbroadd · 17/06/2024 11:26

My autism radar klaxon is deafening right now...

Yup, this.

why don’t you suggest he stores in a rental locker? The thought of paying may sharpen his priorities.

that being said if it’s in the attic you can’t see it and unless YOU want store an equal amount is it a problem?

OhHelloMiss · 18/06/2024 20:14

He's got the understanding and management.....he's got over half the loft space for himself

Ilovecleaning · 18/06/2024 20:00

ProjectEdensGate · 17/06/2024 12:39

@SerenityNowInsanityLater I hear you! I think unless you have lived in a chaotic, dirty and cluttered home, you will never fully appreciate or understand how bad it is. It is that the one place that is supposedly your comfort and safety is anything but.

People tell me I am too house proud, then visit my parents and suddenly get it!

😢 Glad you’re ok now. And be proud of being houseproud! My mum was brought up in a dump and, as an adult, her home was beautifully clean and tidy.

WoosMama13 · 18/06/2024 19:56

OhHelloMiss · 18/06/2024 15:14

I don't see how diagnosing him as autistic is helpful either

The problem still exists either way

Because then you know how/where you can get support to manage it. You know what you're dealing with as a bigger picture.
Being ND is not laziness, selfishness, ignorance of others (by choice) or anything else negative. It's literally the brain is wired differently and processing information is difficult and different.
There is not a magic wand that can be swished and all symptoms are gone. It's about understanding and management.

BooBooDoodle · 18/06/2024 19:33

He needs to look at a storage centre and rent a unit. He can put his things in there or tell him to move back in with his parents if he can’t shift some of it to allow you to have a proper home. He sounds like he hasn’t grown up to be honest. If he likes collecting, fair play but he needs to find a space outside of the house for it all.

BlackCountryWench2 · 18/06/2024 19:30

I think it’s reasonable to point out that while some of you are minimalists and this amount of stuff makes you feel anxious, that could be just a much manifestation of a mental health issue such as OCD, anxiety etc. as the OP’s OH is showing in accumulating this stuff. I’m an antiques dealer so my house has an ever-changing range of items coming in and out, and this makes my house feel comfortable and loved. The vast majority is stored away but some of it is too lovely not to be displayed. A minimalist house would put me on edge, as it would feel corporate and soulless to me! That being said, these are items which have value, and I assume that a great proportion of the OP’s OH’s collections do as well. What appears like boxes of tat to the untrained eye can actually be valuable - don’t dismiss it just because you don’t know anything about it. However, I would draw the line at boxes of stinky old footie boots and the like which clearly have no value other than sentimental. Meet him halfway, offer to help him chuck all the valueless stuff and then take over that space yourself. Or suggest that he thin out the collection by taking some of it to auction, and he can spend the proceeds on his man cave. After all, it’s not like he’s gambling it away or pissing it all up the wall.

rosyAndMoo · 18/06/2024 19:15

I wonder if you aren’t angry at what he currently has, but the indication that he intends to continue collecting and adding to this stuff… that obviously comes with a financial implication.

I would ask him if he would limit his continued collecting to just one type of thing ie pokemon cards or toy cars etc and the rest he will have to accept that is as big as his collection will get.

as a side point, is he neurodiverse? I only ask because I have a neurodiverse child who is obsessed with collecting (funko pops, iconic drinks bottles, Coins and pokemon cards are his passions). We have told him he can only add to his collections if they come in the shape of birthday/christmas gifts and he is. Or to continue to spend other money on them to try to prevent the scenario you have now.

BucketBouquet · 18/06/2024 18:57

PerfectTravelTote · 18/06/2024 18:22

Fil has a similar mentality. His eldest is now 60 with gown up kids. Who needs a nest egg at 60?

Sell it and enjoy watching him put his his nest egg to use now.

By leaving it to him you're just leaving him a big sad task that will break his heart.

Why will it be “heartbreaking” for him to sell it when he doesn’t want it (as presumably he won’t sell it if he does), but not for the OP to sell it when she does want it?

WoosMama13 · 18/06/2024 18:57

Is he diagnosed ND or OCD or if not, is he showing other signs of possible neurodiversity? Does he fully understand the situation? If he's generally a good person, not controlling or manipulative, might be worth looking into if not diagnosed. Spoken from a lifetime of experience!

Best things to do, is set strict rules for further items and if something comes in, something goes out rule. Like you do with hoarders.

And to put a positive spin on things, look at it this way. There's possibly a huge financial pot sat there should it ever be needed.

To whoever said why would you shag someone who makes excell sheets for their collections... Just wow. Managing things methodically does not make you unattractive. I'd rather have a partner that has some managed collections than an obsessive gamer or footy lout.

HollyKnight · 18/06/2024 18:29

PerfectTravelTote · 18/06/2024 18:22

Fil has a similar mentality. His eldest is now 60 with gown up kids. Who needs a nest egg at 60?

Sell it and enjoy watching him put his his nest egg to use now.

By leaving it to him you're just leaving him a big sad task that will break his heart.

But she's still alive and still enjoys keeping it. Should no one own anything in case it inconveniences people after death?

PerfectTravelTote · 18/06/2024 18:22

Gettingbysomehow · 17/06/2024 15:49

Oh dear, I'm a collector too BUT I live on my own and my 3rd bedroom houses my collection, also it's worth a lot of money as it's very niche and I've been collecting since the 1980's. I've told my adult DS he can auction the lot when I'm dead. It should give him quite a nest egg.
It is something that never goes out of fashion and is really museum quality.
Really he either needs an extra room to house this stuff or an outdoor lockable man cave.
At my last house I had an outbuilding that I stored everything in.

Fil has a similar mentality. His eldest is now 60 with gown up kids. Who needs a nest egg at 60?

Sell it and enjoy watching him put his his nest egg to use now.

By leaving it to him you're just leaving him a big sad task that will break his heart.

mrsg1981 · 18/06/2024 18:11

I’m assuming he is neurodiverse and it’s really hard to get rid of things that you’ve spent your life collecting and hyperfixating on. Could he sell anything to buy something for the family? Or his dream collectible? Or is it all things that are personal/non-valuable?

AmIEnough · 18/06/2024 18:07

norfolkbroadd · 17/06/2024 11:26

My autism radar klaxon is deafening right now...

Do you listen to The ADHD Adults podcast???….sorry….very much off topic!!
I would really struggle with this too!!! Anal doesn’t begin to describe it!!

OhHelloMiss · 18/06/2024 16:59

JFDIYOLO · 18/06/2024 15:56

@OhHelloMiss Ask those who received a late diagnosis, or those who live with with them, how helpful it has been.

You mean a proper diagnosis or a mumsnet one??

JFDIYOLO · 18/06/2024 15:56

@OhHelloMiss Ask those who received a late diagnosis, or those who live with with them, how helpful it has been.

OhHelloMiss · 18/06/2024 15:14

I don't see how diagnosing him as autistic is helpful either

The problem still exists either way

BigDahliaFan · 18/06/2024 09:47

I think you need some professional outside help to set some boundaries. This doesn't sound like something that will get better but will get worse as he gets older.

And it will impact on the kids...

You've been remarkably understanding. But if it was me I'd be thinking he cared more about his spreadsheets and 'stuff' than me and the kids....

JFDIYOLO · 18/06/2024 09:43

I wonder if hoarding could be an example of hyperfixation in itself? The stuff being the special interest?

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 18/06/2024 08:55

Unrestrained collecting is just another name for hoarding. He just does it neatly.

You can get more and more space, and he will fill it all up and still look for more.

At the end of the day, the inability to let go of things is an obsessive compulsion, an illness. It will co timer to fire if he doesn't take steps to rein it in.

AnnaSewell · 18/06/2024 08:32

I think it's a bit like Mr Rochester being married to Jane Eyre when the first Mrs Rochester is up in the loft/attic.

I looked up infodumping here.

https://www.yourlifeaba.com/blog/hyperfixation-infodumping-and-autism-parents-guide

That's all very well if you're happy for your husband to be - in respect of the collecting/hoarding - a child.

A bit more problematic when it's meant to be an equal relationship of adults. I did find the book, 'The Life of Stuff' helpful.

Hyperfixation, Infodumping, and Autism: A Parent's Guide

Hyperfixation and infodumping are two terms that are thrown around a lot in relation to autism. But, what exactly do they mean? And, more importantly, how should a parent handle them? This article will explain all about these behaviors and how you can...

https://www.yourlifeaba.com/blog/hyperfixation-infodumping-and-autism-parents-guide

hattie43 · 18/06/2024 08:24

You are married to a hoarder . Give it a few years and you won't get in the front door . You may tolerate this but it's not fair on your daughter.

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