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There's no such thing as an independent female

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Yoyodiet · 16/06/2024 23:35

I'm so wound up! Earlier, DP said to me he thinks I would benefit from signing up to Andrew Tate's academy course or whatever it is (I like learning about making money online, more out of interest than actually doing it myself). I said probably, but I wouldn't want to fund him as I don't like him. He asked why and I said he's not very nice to/about women. He was aghast and we went back and forth, defending him for the most part when I was reading bits off to him from a BBC article to prove my point. I read the following -

In that same video, he described women as "intrinsically lazy" and said there was "no such thing as an independent female".

...and he was like 'yeah, no women can be independent, you need men'. I couldn't believe it! I won't bore you with the heated discussion that ensued but he genuinely believes that not just I would crumble without a man (him), but all women on the planet if men suddenly disappeared. We would apparently perish in good time because we 'cannot hunt, do electrics, fix a roof or change a tyre'. (To add insult to injury I have qualifications in electrical installation and engineering, I'm pretty sure I could also change a tyre if push came to shove).

Also, I said I think there would be less wars without men - he said there'd me more because women are bitchy?? I said I'm pretty sure men have started a lot more wars than women in history. He pointed in my face and told me women didn't even fight in wars til recently. I reminded him that men made those rules.. 😂

He genuinelyyyyyy believes I'd fall apart without him. Our relationship has been rocky lately but this really made me see a different side to him. He really made me feel like a lesser person and it's made me feel really disappointed since. AIBU to be lying in bed awake stewing over this???

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RedHelenB · 17/06/2024 05:38

ShowerOfShites · 16/06/2024 23:42

Have you literally just met your husband?

If not, surely his shit comes as no surprise?

This. Did nt you talk at all before you married?

LelyKelly23 · 17/06/2024 05:34

Honestly, these would be a total deal breaker for me! I’d fuck it off quicker than any man would change a tyre for me 😂 Andrew Tate is scum of the earth along with his cult of incels.

Rightsraptor · 17/06/2024 05:30

In truth, we're all interdependent as a pp said.

I'm dependent on the milkman, who will soon deliver the milk (I hope), he's dependent on whoever supplies that milk to him. I'm dependent on bus drivers, shop people, the pharmacist when I pick up my prescription later, that same pharmacist is dependent on doctors writing the prescriptions and big pharma for producing the meds, delivery drivers ...I could go on. We all could.

I don't need to change tyres, no car. Does your Andrew Tate fan boy hunt or mend roofs, OP? What he's said is rubbish, we all know that, but what is most concerning is that he was surprised you didn't want to sign up to the odious man's 'course' and the effects of men like this on your children. Their own father.

If he wants examples of lazy, he need look no further than AT who appears to think it's acceptable to take the money from women he's forced into prostitution and then attempt to rake in money from setting up 'courses' to teach others how to be like him.

NoMoreLifts · 17/06/2024 05:30

Thirdsummerofourdiscontent · 16/06/2024 23:49

Andrew Tate is a sex trafficking rapist. No respect for women at all. I would rather be alone than with a man who share those values.

Sex trafficking = living off women. So not such an independent man.

SilverBranchGoldenPears · 17/06/2024 05:25

Hateam · 17/06/2024 05:17

The ball's in your court.

If you stay with him, you've proved him right.

This

i am so sorry.
The upside is he’s shown his arsehole self after 9 years not 20!

JohnSt1 · 17/06/2024 05:17

If he likes Andrew Tate he's a fucking moron.

Hateam · 17/06/2024 05:17

The ball's in your court.

If you stay with him, you've proved him right.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 17/06/2024 02:59

Not exactly the same but I had a partner who fell into conspiracy theory videos online (the moon landing was faked etc). I was shocked at the speed at which he was "brainwashed," and he was an intelligent person with no prior leanings towards that kind of thing. The relationship was in its death throes anyways but I still remember being blindsided by how thoroughly he believed it.

What your husband is saying is very frightening in his hatred towards women, I wouldn't feel comfortable and there's your daughter too.

PoppyTries · 17/06/2024 02:59

I read as far as “Andrew Tate” and need to know nothing beyond that. Run. Run away screaming. Run far and fast.

Whatthechicken · 17/06/2024 02:53

So , your partner agreed with AT and wrote your daughter off as 'intrinsically lazy' in the process? I couldn't live with that.

Willyoujustbequiet · 17/06/2024 01:52

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They often wear masks when they walk among us.

Just like abuse frequently doesn't start until pregnancy.

ShouldIEvenBother · 17/06/2024 01:43

It's not too late to prove him wrong: LTB.

Seriously OP, going by your updates it sounds like you won't just be happier, but you'll also thrive.

XChrome · 17/06/2024 01:39

Yoyodiet · 16/06/2024 23:35

I'm so wound up! Earlier, DP said to me he thinks I would benefit from signing up to Andrew Tate's academy course or whatever it is (I like learning about making money online, more out of interest than actually doing it myself). I said probably, but I wouldn't want to fund him as I don't like him. He asked why and I said he's not very nice to/about women. He was aghast and we went back and forth, defending him for the most part when I was reading bits off to him from a BBC article to prove my point. I read the following -

In that same video, he described women as "intrinsically lazy" and said there was "no such thing as an independent female".

...and he was like 'yeah, no women can be independent, you need men'. I couldn't believe it! I won't bore you with the heated discussion that ensued but he genuinely believes that not just I would crumble without a man (him), but all women on the planet if men suddenly disappeared. We would apparently perish in good time because we 'cannot hunt, do electrics, fix a roof or change a tyre'. (To add insult to injury I have qualifications in electrical installation and engineering, I'm pretty sure I could also change a tyre if push came to shove).

Also, I said I think there would be less wars without men - he said there'd me more because women are bitchy?? I said I'm pretty sure men have started a lot more wars than women in history. He pointed in my face and told me women didn't even fight in wars til recently. I reminded him that men made those rules.. 😂

He genuinelyyyyyy believes I'd fall apart without him. Our relationship has been rocky lately but this really made me see a different side to him. He really made me feel like a lesser person and it's made me feel really disappointed since. AIBU to be lying in bed awake stewing over this???

He's unequivocally a misogynist and unequivocally wrong. It's time to dump that loser. Keep in mind that men like this often become abusive. That Tate bastard is a rapist and sex trafficker and this guy defends him? Fuck a bunch of that. He looks up to scum because he's scum.

Aquamarine1029 · 17/06/2024 01:13

You have had blinders on for a very, very long time. You have been ignoring red flags for years. This shit that came out of his mouth isn't new, you've just glossed over it.

WhichEllie · 17/06/2024 00:58

Prove him wrong by dumping his arse and fucking off into the sunset.

With the children, of course. I’m sure he’ll be shocked that you’re able to manage with them alone.

AtrociousCircumstance · 17/06/2024 00:57

You can’t stay with this misogynistic and truly stupid cunt.

It would be rampantly self-destructive to remain in this gross relationship OP. Sorry you’re having a to deal with it.

Whataretalkingabout · 17/06/2024 00:54

To think he has finally revealed his true self after 9 years and 2 DC.
Whether you were blinded by love or manipulated and deceived,
at least you know now what kind of women -hating-twat he really is.

When they show you who they are, believe them .

beergiggles · 17/06/2024 00:50

Andrew Tate !?!?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm so sorry you are with this moron/proto-hominid
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

EmeraldRoulette · 17/06/2024 00:47

StarDolphins · 16/06/2024 23:50

My ex was like this (Andrew Tate, Russell brand, Covid scam, new world order, ‘real men’ , women shouldn’t be playing football etc. 4 years later, I’m thriving, happy & totally self reliant. He’s trying to reconcile.

Anyone that sticks up for AT is a dick.

Does he still believe those things? Just wondering if he is trying to reconcile while still holding some of those views.

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 17/06/2024 00:46

If AT is anything to go by, there's no such thing as an independent male, seeing AT makes a living from persuading women to enter the sex trade and to give him the money they make from it.

In my book, that makes AT a parasite, dependent on women.

Caerulea · 17/06/2024 00:33

Neither your daughter nor your son need that kind of influence from their dad. Can you imagine the kind of adults he'll shape them into? It's tragic.

Hellodarknessmyfriend · 17/06/2024 00:26

@Yoyodiet You're clearly an educated woman with an income of her own so honestly, you'd be OK getting rid. I'm not saying it will be easy (having been there myself), but you deserve respect.

Gakpo · 17/06/2024 00:20

Well let’s look on the bright side, you’re not married, and you haven’t mentioned kids (unless I missed it), which is going to make it much easier when you leave to become, you know, an independent woman.

MonsteraMama · 17/06/2024 00:18

NGL I've been with my husband for 18 years and love him more than anyone else on earth and if he ever suggested to me that Andrew Tate is anything more than a sweaty gooch he'd find himself divorced quicker than a whippet with a bum full of dynamite.

Catsmere · 17/06/2024 00:15

@EBearhug similar - my father pissed off when I was a child, and I never bothered dating. Where is the man I'm supposed to have been dependent on for fifty years? I'm glad to say he never materialised. Shit-eating misogynists are ten a penny, and every time I see posts like this, I am even more grateful for being single lifelong.

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