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Gawping at the royals has to stop

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MeritocracyNotMonarchy · 16/06/2024 21:48

They are just people - no better, worse or more interesting than any other UK residents.

They're trussed up and put on show like animals in a zoo. No child should be wheeled out like this and gawped at. They're ordinary people in a fairly mediocre, mildly dysfunctional family, just like those found on any street in the UK.

We really need to mature as a country and put the whole pantomime of monarchy behind us. It reflects and entrenches the inequality that is so damaging to the UK. And the characters in the panto look bloody miserable.

AIBU?

Gawping at the royals has to stop
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sweetnessandlighter · 17/06/2024 05:20

Fine. Then they can give back all the palaces and jewels and art that they hoard. They can donate all of that to the nation and go and live in normal houses and work for a living.

Auntimabelsbudgie · 17/06/2024 05:15

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 16/06/2024 22:43

I'm afraid I can't help but find anyone that is a royalist ends up in the gullible and thick box in my head.
I try and rationalise it and remind myself it's a personal choice and different view points are a good thing but they still end up in there.

Not judgemental then
Great lesson to teach kids.

stayathomer · 16/06/2024 22:50

hastalav
I always feel that they are sniggering at us when they get off the stage. What suckers they are I hear them saying. And off they go for champers and a kick your shoes off hoolie.
I wouldn’t say they’re bothered laughing at anything, Id say they’ve enough else to talk about- their kids, politics and what they have to do the next day along with the two who are dealing with cancer plus obviously all the scandal stuff. I’d say they sit down, watch tv and go ‘fuck do we really have to do x, y and z tomorrow?’

Beenthereagainandagain · 16/06/2024 22:50

I think the monarchy has really only ever been based on money anyway. It’s a way of justifying and perpetuating inequality.

the celebrity cult is only another version of the same weird obsession certain people have about other certain people. Personally I admire others who have talent or intellect or a passion for a cause. Musicians, artists, writers, scientists etc etc. I’m interested in their work, not their personal lives (other than in how they might have informed their later work). I don’t admire random people for just existing.

SpudleyLass · 16/06/2024 22:49

MeritocracyNotMonarchy · 16/06/2024 22:16

The current characters in the charade don't strike me as particularly bright or dynamic. They just plod on with the status quo, as most of us do each day. I think it's unlikely to expect these fairly mediocre people to initiate revolutionary change. Change will only come from UK citizens deciding that the aristocracy has to go. Then we can demand the billions back.

The only ones with any gumption were Harry and Meghan, who did indeed sack it off and are raising their children in private. But I can't see any of those folk on that balcony doing anything so radical or life-affirming..

Harry and Meghan are selfish bullying tosspots. The worst of the lot, actually.

His vain security lawsuit has cost us at least 500k, despite being told no multiple times. He intends to appeal.

Above ALL other royals, Harry is the most entitled.

Also, if those allegations about prostitutes come to the fore, it's possible he'll likely be revealed to be worse than Andrew.

Auntimabelsbudgie · 16/06/2024 22:49

Beenthereagainandagain · 16/06/2024 22:40

Are you suggesting that the only alternative to Charles III is Cromwell II?
I like to believe there are other options…

Don't be obtuse.

Pantaloons99 · 16/06/2024 22:47

What would it actually take to abolish the monarchy? Who and ultimately how is that decision made?

I don't understand the level of fawning. Is it the escapism of it all for the every day pleb? The feeling that someone bigger and better than us is taking care of us and keeping us all safe? I don't understand it.

cakeorwine · 16/06/2024 22:44

It's like a goldfish bowl.

And those poor children have no choice but to live in it.

The headlines are ridiculous.
The media obsessed when a picture of them is released.
The headlines with Harry and Meghan.

It's sycophantic obsession.

Gakpo · 16/06/2024 22:43

The idea that Britain would be an egalitarian society without a monarchy is nonsense.

Just look at the US, if it’s not based on birth, it’s based on money. There is still a social and economic elite and still vast inequality.

By all means, abolish the monarchy, but don’t expect much to change.

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 16/06/2024 22:43

I'm afraid I can't help but find anyone that is a royalist ends up in the gullible and thick box in my head.
I try and rationalise it and remind myself it's a personal choice and different view points are a good thing but they still end up in there.

OhHelloMiss · 16/06/2024 22:42

They've always been there and always will be.....no matter what you say

Can't get too worked up about the Royal family tbh!

The king is my employer!

Beenthereagainandagain · 16/06/2024 22:40

Auntimabelsbudgie · 16/06/2024 22:29

Have you heard of the English Civil war?
Do you know how badly this country fared during the interregnum?
Why do you think they bought the monarchy back and binned Oliver Cromwell?
The ignorance here is astounding

Are you suggesting that the only alternative to Charles III is Cromwell II?
I like to believe there are other options…

Auntimabelsbudgie · 16/06/2024 22:39

MeritocracyNotMonarchy · 16/06/2024 22:36

Other countries survive in 2024 without a massive taxpayer-funded inequality-entrenching panto. So can we

Move to one of them
I'm sure the royals can have a furtle down the back of an old sofa and rustle up your relocation costs

MeritocracyNotMonarchy · 16/06/2024 22:36

Auntimabelsbudgie · 16/06/2024 22:29

Have you heard of the English Civil war?
Do you know how badly this country fared during the interregnum?
Why do you think they bought the monarchy back and binned Oliver Cromwell?
The ignorance here is astounding

Other countries survive in 2024 without a massive taxpayer-funded inequality-entrenching panto. So can we

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SpudleyLass · 16/06/2024 22:35

Beenthereagainandagain · 16/06/2024 22:21

I have always wondered why society seems to hold some particular people in high regard for literally no valid reason whatsoever.
they are “special” because their ancestors were “special” but quite how or why any of them are special is a total mystery. it’s completely bizarre.
those “royalists” who devour the royal stories and gossip are responsible for the media hounding Diana which resulted in her death. Wasn’t that enough to show our weird obsession for what it is- stalking on a grand scale.
let’s put the property and the wealth into public ownership, give the remaining royals enough to maintain the existing members but no more generations please. It’s horrible to see young children doomed to an inescapable life of scrutiny, likewise abuse on a grand scale.

Most of the property IS state owned.

If we got rid of the royals tomorrow, what do we do with all those big draughty buidlings?

Given that the cost of maintenance is currently paid for through income generated by the RF.

And unpopular opinion, but Diana was responsible for Diana's death. The driver didn't need to speed up, he didn't need to drink drive.

TitusMoan · 16/06/2024 22:33

Auntimabelsbudgie · 16/06/2024 22:29

Have you heard of the English Civil war?
Do you know how badly this country fared during the interregnum?
Why do you think they bought the monarchy back and binned Oliver Cromwell?
The ignorance here is astounding

🤣🤣🤣

What an argument

marigoldandrose · 16/06/2024 22:30

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 16/06/2024 21:53

Meh.

They chose to put their children in weird sailor outfits and parade them about.

They could leave the family and live a nice quiet life somewhere if they wanted.

I thought the outfits looked great and very smart, not weird at all.

MeritocracyNotMonarchy · 16/06/2024 22:30

Beenthereagainandagain · 16/06/2024 22:21

I have always wondered why society seems to hold some particular people in high regard for literally no valid reason whatsoever.
they are “special” because their ancestors were “special” but quite how or why any of them are special is a total mystery. it’s completely bizarre.
those “royalists” who devour the royal stories and gossip are responsible for the media hounding Diana which resulted in her death. Wasn’t that enough to show our weird obsession for what it is- stalking on a grand scale.
let’s put the property and the wealth into public ownership, give the remaining royals enough to maintain the existing members but no more generations please. It’s horrible to see young children doomed to an inescapable life of scrutiny, likewise abuse on a grand scale.

*Stalking on a grand scale"

This. Stalking children no less. What are we as a country, doing this?

let’s put the property and the wealth into public ownership, give the remaining royals enough to maintain the existing members but no more generations please. It’s horrible to see young children doomed to an inescapable life of scrutiny, likewise abuse on a grand scale.

Couldn't agree.more. Let's consign it all to history and turn over a new page as a country. Goodness knows it's massively overdue.

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Auntimabelsbudgie · 16/06/2024 22:29

MeritocracyNotMonarchy · 16/06/2024 22:04

Tis that. And the kids playing the child parts haven't even chosen to audition for them. They've just been told that they have to get up on the stage and perform.

The French saw the light centuries ago.

Get rid of the whole thing, open up the palaces to paying visitors, do re-enactments to tourists for money, and give us a mature democracy with equal opportunity for all.

Have you heard of the English Civil war?
Do you know how badly this country fared during the interregnum?
Why do you think they bought the monarchy back and binned Oliver Cromwell?
The ignorance here is astounding

SpudleyLass · 16/06/2024 22:29

MeritocracyNotMonarchy · 16/06/2024 21:48

They are just people - no better, worse or more interesting than any other UK residents.

They're trussed up and put on show like animals in a zoo. No child should be wheeled out like this and gawped at. They're ordinary people in a fairly mediocre, mildly dysfunctional family, just like those found on any street in the UK.

We really need to mature as a country and put the whole pantomime of monarchy behind us. It reflects and entrenches the inequality that is so damaging to the UK. And the characters in the panto look bloody miserable.

AIBU?

See, I could be swayed to a republic but I also feel every argument against the Monarchy can be applied to celebrity culture too.

If celebrity-dom vanished tomorrow or the exact moment we abolished the monarchy, then count me in.

Areolaborealis · 16/06/2024 22:27

All they have to do to get the best of everything is stand a look miserable for a photo once in a while.

Nice job if you can get it.

Auntimabelsbudgie · 16/06/2024 22:27

Comedycook · 16/06/2024 22:11

Oh don't fall for the they're actually miserable rhetoric. Generally they live absolutely fantastic lives in the lap of luxury. .

Oh, are you a Royal then?
If not, you seem particularly ill informed, even for for a commoner

StripedPiggy · 16/06/2024 22:27

They exist to be gawped at. That is the entire purpose of them.

What they are not, however, is prisoners. If they don’t like it, they can quit. Those born as royals can bugger off to California like the Ginger Whinger. Those who married into it knew what they were getting into, but they can get divorced & get out.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 16/06/2024 22:26

I like HRH kate and family and even Charles and his wife, now
The press and they have an understand re privacy.
IMO, the royal family give us something to chat about!!
They also bring millions to London to look at them and the places they
live in etc, etc!!
We are lucky to have them, IMO!!

Auntimabelsbudgie · 16/06/2024 22:25

MeritocracyNotMonarchy · 16/06/2024 21:48

They are just people - no better, worse or more interesting than any other UK residents.

They're trussed up and put on show like animals in a zoo. No child should be wheeled out like this and gawped at. They're ordinary people in a fairly mediocre, mildly dysfunctional family, just like those found on any street in the UK.

We really need to mature as a country and put the whole pantomime of monarchy behind us. It reflects and entrenches the inequality that is so damaging to the UK. And the characters in the panto look bloody miserable.

AIBU?

Have you ever heard of social media?
People trussing themselves and their kids up for show to be gawped at those with nothing else interesting in their lives
We need, as a country, to mature and put the whole culture of 'look at me, me ME!!!!!!!!!!!' behind us...

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