.. in finding Fathers’ Day a little bit naff?

@Chickenuggetsticks that's lovely. I also admire you for breaking tradition. There are so that just do things the way they have always been done, and/or hide behind the word "naff." You can celebrate in a meaningful low key way. Afew thoughtful words in a card/ token gift is a great thing.

This was the first father's day without my lovely dad. I took a card, and flowers to put on his grave. Does that make me "naff?"

@deeprealisation sorry what's youth sport got to do with Father's Day?

My dad thought it naff. Not needed. We don't bother. Loads of youth sport in chaos today tho as a result

Yep it's really annoying, along with Mother's Day.

I'll even go a step further and say Christmas is getting on my wick increasingly as I get older. Just commercialized crap that no one can afford, starting from October.

We celebrate it, did at least as far back as the 1950's, as my mum told me about cards they had made for my grandfather back then.
My DH is one of the good ones, he is an excellent father, has always been hands on, does his share of driving/clubs/homework/shopping as well as cooking and cleaning.
He is just as likely to be the one to get a call in an emergency,, as he always makes himself available as he can (when not at sea)
I celebrate him , as he does me, and that works for us, and has done for nearly 30 years now

Father's day is 9 months before mother's day. A coincidence?

Same deal on Mother’s Day and Father’s Day here: handmade card from the kids and box of chocolates. Works for us, and the cards are nice to keep.

Hate it! All over Fb today people missing their dads, and I know a child who’s lost his dad and a couple who lost their only child- Father’s Day (and Mother’s Day too) is heartbreaking for so many. (We celebrate it and dh milks it the same way I milk Mother’s Day though, same way we both milk our birthdays but I do hate the big picture thing

Mothers Day might go further back as a tradition, but it’s really great to celebrate Dads too.

Like some of the posters above, I struggle with Father's Day because a lot of, if not most, fathers are a bit crap and lazy compared to mums.

And then they get an equal day to the mums and, because it's not the crap and lazy dads organising gifts from the kids but the mums who are used to doing most stuff anyway, often they get a better celebration than the mums did on Mother's Day.

I realise this is a negative view and NAMALT and all that rubbish, but I can't help thinking that many women would be better off if both Mother's Day and Father's Day were scrapped as they wouldn't have to put up with minimal acknowledgement, if any, on Mother's Day, and then pull out all the stops for their brattish, entitled partners on Father's Day.

I remember the fathers day card activity at school and that was 30 years ago so it was definately a 'thing' back then (I was the only one without a dad). I don't think fathers day was publicised as much as mother's day until recently. The reason is maybe because mothers day is easier to commercialise - chocolate, flowers, perfume and so on.

I dislike both and prefer to make birthday's special - everybody has a birthday so nobody feels excluded.

What's naff is reading everyone's messages about there dad's on Facebook.
The dad is not necessarily on Facebook or even alive but people have to announce it anyway.
They think they are the only ones . Have friends got to find time to go through all the fb dad posts and like them.

You have a birthday for that.
How many more made up days do we need.
Your birthday is your special day the day you were born.
Continual.pressure on people to buy cards and gifts with all these made up days.

Everyone has a birthday that's enough.

I agree OP but I accept its because of my own biases, and that not every one has to share my sentiment.

I know very few good dads, never mind exceptional dads worth celebrating. I know more mediocre dads with burnt out wives, and even more shit dads that think they're the bees knees.

I'm not saying that there aren't shit mums, or mediocre mums, but I feel like I'm very aware that in the pool of people I know, if a mum is mediocre it's because she's burnt out from doing it all, and I at least think she deserves some appreciation, but if a dad is mediocre, the bar is already set so low for men and they're still not hitting it.

I was looking round the shops for DS to give his dad a card and saw all these cards that said world's best dad, and happy fathers day hope you have the best day ever, and I couldn't bring myself to buy any of them because it's just a lie isn't it? World's best dad? He's not even the world's most okayest dad.

So is Valentine”s Day and any day that is just a marketing ploy.

Interested people think it was commonplace in the 70a and 80s.

Interesting use of the words "people think it was commonplace".

Er - it was.
We used to make cards for our Dad in the 1960s. It certainly isn't a recent import from anywhere.

Mumsnet is the home of curmudgeonliness.

As if summer isn't bad enough with it's insufferable warmth, the annoying sound of kids happily playing outside and the horrifying smell of bbq-d UPFs, there's bloody father's day in the middle of it with it's expectation that you might do something nice for a family member. Ugh.

Not bothered if people find it naff or not, you'll always find someone with a reason to put it/others down for acknowledging it.
We just do a card and a small gift, and the kids make cards at nursery.

I don’t like Father’s Day or Mother’s Day! Find them both commercialised and naff.

I’m not keen on any days “celebrating” a ubiquitous day-to-day role. I think we need to show respect and gratitude for people in these roles all the time, in a dynamic and personal way, not have a single “special” day that tends to fall back on cliche.

@iCod It’s a shame you feel this way. My dad died last year, I have found today really sad and I would give anything to have my wonderful dad back - I wish he was here to celebrate today. Luckily I’ve been looking through photos from over the years, many taken on Father’s Day with my dad and sister. But more importantly I have been making nice memories with my son and his dad, so that one day my son will also have memories and photos to remember. Is it commercialised - yes like all holidays and celebrations but all that crap doesn’t have to be bought. My son (2) and I got up, he helped me make breakfast and he loved presenting his dad with breakfast. It was cute and lovely memories for me and dad, and some photos and a video for the future. I wish my dad was here to see my son grow up, he was heartbroken that he wouldn’t get to and I’m still heartbroken too.

Then you’re being a bit hypocritical. I think both are a load of old tosh. But my favourite holiday is pancake day so what do I know 😂🤣😂🤣

But if it makes people happy, what’s it to you how they celebrate it? You can opt out.

Lots of people are ok with Mother's Day and not Father's Day. In many families even now both parents work but mothers do most of the rest.

So you're ok with Mother's Day but not Father's Day?