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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 16/06/2024 10:29

Yes I know there is a topic for this but there's next to no traffic and people who have already cracked this and moved on probably aren't looking at it.

My DS turned three a couple of months ago. We have tried potty training several times with no luck so far.

He is starting school in September and HAS to be trained by then. There is no other option. I have taken tomorrow and Tuesday off work so we are on day 2 of a four day window dedicated to cracking this and it's getting worse, not better. I don't have any other holiday other than the last two weeks of August which we have booked off to go on an actual holiday and will be completely ruined if we have to spend it hanging around the holiday accommodation doing potty training.

I'm at my wits' end.

He doesn't want to sit on the potty.

He withholds for hours on end.

He gets increasingly angry and fed up and wants to go outside and play. Eventually I give in and we go outside and it's only a matter of time before he pees or poos in his pants.

Please help.

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 16/06/2024 12:57

He doesn't want to be cooped up inside a flat with no garden all day for a week in summer.

Perhaps you'd think better of my parenting if he'd been raised staring gormlessly at the TV and was happy to never go outside.

Could you use this to your advantage? So tell him that he needs to wee on the potty before he goes out otherwise he might end up with wet pants while he is out and then you'd just have to come home again?

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He doesn't want to be cooped up inside a flat with no garden all day for a week in summer.

Perhaps you'd think better of my parenting if he'd been raised staring gormlessly at the TV and was happy to never go outside.

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Why shouldn't you reward the effort of your child weeing in a potty rather than on the floor, not to mention having to take time out from playing to go? I see it as encouragement, I think the jokey use of the word bribery just makes it sound negative.

I was the queen of bribery encouragement in my desperation. Ds's reward was a huge toy combine. It was incredibly impressive but sadly had absolutely no impact on my incredibly stubborn (and later to be diagnosed as autistic) child. We tried at least 3 or 4 times to potty train before he cracked it, it was an awful experience right up there with sleeping and weaning.

OP I think you have to expect lots of accidents and just battle on as best you can. It's even more stressful when you have such a small window of time but you can only do what you (and he) can do. But if 'encouragement' works for him then i say embrace it whole heartedly.

hockityponktas · 16/06/2024 12:53

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Sometimes the hows and whys just don’t work in a child’s brain. There are plenty of opportunities to teach being instrinsically motivated. When there’s stubbornness involved it isnt always the time.
but hey what would I know, degree in childhood development and 20+ years of experience potty training both my own and hundreds of others🤷‍♀️
have a lovely day 💐

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 16/06/2024 12:49

Allofaflutter · 16/06/2024 12:47

Just be more stubborn than him. No more nappies, just pants and let him get wet. Put blankets on sofas etc but it’s now big toilet not potty. No negotiation, kids are like terrorists don’t negotiate with either. This is how it’s going to be. You take him to toilet every 10 mins. Praise him but stay calm and no reaction to wetting, just matter of fact. I would let him be wet for a minute each time so he feels how uncomfortable it is. If he can hold it he can be potty trained. It sounds like you let him rule the roost a bit much. He must go outside or he kicks off? So what tell him off rather than give him what he wants all the time. Who’s the parent?

He is a lovely little boy nearly all of the time. Not a brat at all. No screen time, not spoiled.

He just seems to have a mental block about potty training.

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Either way, they're not welcome here.

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Allofaflutter · 16/06/2024 12:47

Just be more stubborn than him. No more nappies, just pants and let him get wet. Put blankets on sofas etc but it’s now big toilet not potty. No negotiation, kids are like terrorists don’t negotiate with either. This is how it’s going to be. You take him to toilet every 10 mins. Praise him but stay calm and no reaction to wetting, just matter of fact. I would let him be wet for a minute each time so he feels how uncomfortable it is. If he can hold it he can be potty trained. It sounds like you let him rule the roost a bit much. He must go outside or he kicks off? So what tell him off rather than give him what he wants all the time. Who’s the parent?

Hateliars34 · 16/06/2024 12:45

Just let him have accidents. We had several months of accidents before we cracked it.

Go cold turkey - no nappies except for sleeping. He might still have accidents when he starts school but hopefully not too many a day! We had 3 a day until 3 years 7 months, and after that something clicked and she mostly stopped.

AsMuchAsICanTellYou · 16/06/2024 12:44

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 16/06/2024 12:42

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Can you please take your smugness elsewhere? I'm looking for helpful advice, not judgement.

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BlackBean2023 · 16/06/2024 11:40

Nappy off, bare bum and watch him constantly. When you see a sign pop him on the potty (or toilet - my DD2 never had a potty in the day time!) and make the most almighty fuss when he does a wee or poo. It actually took us longer to uncondition DD to receiving Oscar award winning praise every time she toileted than it did to toilet train.

Sit on the toilet/potty every half an hour- reward with smarties/buttons/sweets/whatever they are partial to.

No reaction to accidents- just clear them up and wait for the next one.

Good luck OP. It's harder when they're that little bit older because they get wide to the tricks quicker!

This is what we did.
Stay home, the child needs to be able to feel the wet.
Reward was a smartie.
Gradually the child gets into a routine. We found weeing on toilet was likely before the bathtime, when first up in the mornings and about an hour after a meal.

We did lie a nappy underneath child in the car for a few months in case of accidents, after they were trained.

Caspianberg · 16/06/2024 12:39

Chocolate

Ds started nursery at 2 years, 4 months. Also not uk. Also ‘ they need to be trained before hand’

As soon as he turned 2, I started so we had 3+ months before September start. Babybjorn toilet seat and step, best for boys not peeing over the top. Plus nursery has no potty’s just small toilets so makes it easier for them.

Take him every hour to the toilet the first 3 days. If he sits he gets a chocolate, if he wees another one. If he goes, then take to toilet again about 90mins later to try. Then back to hourly until he goes. Might need every 30 mins if he pees a lot to start with.

Just let him play indoors with pants and T-shirt on so just one layer. I never did naked training, as he couldn’t be naked outside or at nursery.

ds showed no signs of being ‘ready’ at 2 when I started and was dry within a few days. So highly recommend starting early with next. If I trained Ds at 3+ he would have been too argumentative

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 16/06/2024 12:37

Meadowwild · 16/06/2024 12:32

Does it have to be a potty? Can you get a padded seat that rests on top of the usual toilet seat, making it smaller and more comfortable, and a step up to it?

Then just very casually say, 'I know you don't like the potty and you are quite a big boy now so when you're ready, let me know and you cnn use the grown up loo instead. You get one chocolate button for a wee and two for a poo. tell me when your tummy needs to go, so I can help you not have an accident.

Then see what happens.

We have ALL the things. At the moment we have two big potties that we keep in the living room or the kitchen or his bedroom, and a toilet seat with a built in step stool in one bathroom and a more basic toilet seat with a normal step stool in the other bathroom. We have tried both sitting down and standing up. Ideally I'd like him to learn to do it standing up because that would be so much easier when we're out.

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Ha, get away with you. Not going to outline what this groundwork is then supermum?

Meadowwild · 16/06/2024 12:32

Does it have to be a potty? Can you get a padded seat that rests on top of the usual toilet seat, making it smaller and more comfortable, and a step up to it?

Then just very casually say, 'I know you don't like the potty and you are quite a big boy now so when you're ready, let me know and you cnn use the grown up loo instead. You get one chocolate button for a wee and two for a poo. tell me when your tummy needs to go, so I can help you not have an accident.

Then see what happens.

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Cornettoninja · 16/06/2024 12:32

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Hahahahahahahahahaha

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BertieBotts · 16/06/2024 12:25

Sorry I can see looking back that you don't have a garden.

Thinking of our local area, I would take DS outside into the bit of grass behind our house without pants, it's not totally private but it's not really public either. Or I'd take him to a quiet local park or field or something, or maybe see if I can confide in a local friend who doesn't mind us hanging out in her garden. Or with the lightweight type shorts - I'm thinking pyjama shorts kind of thing so it's very very light cotton and feels similar to being naked, as well as being easy to get on and off. Usually pretty cheap to buy and if he does have accidents in them you can just rinse them out and leave to dry in the sun rather than putting through a whole wash cycle.

BertieBotts · 16/06/2024 12:17

You say you can't let him run around naked - not at all? Is there nowhere this would be usual for toddlers where you live? Do you have a garden?

What about very minimal clothing like swimming trunks, or very thin cotton shorts (no pants) in a colour (e.g. light grey, light-mid blue) where it will be immediately obvious if he starts weeing - that could work?

I think I'd try this for a few days, and avoid situations where it would be disastrous (public transport, shops) but go for walks, outdoor places like parks, in own car for VERY short stretches perhaps with a towel under him in the car seat, and try and catch as many as you can.

If you can get to a point where he's having fewer accidents you could look at some of the cloth nappy type reusable training pants. They feel like pants, they are a tiny bit thicker to protect clothing/environment a bit but they will let them feel wet. They catch a dribble of wee if they can stop themselves. If they are more prone to just continue weeing once they have started, then they are no use. But these might afford him enough grace to avoid embarrassment at school.

N4ish · 16/06/2024 12:15

Agree with others, commit to no nappies at all during the day and ditch pull up pants. You will have lots of cleaning up to do but he will eventually get it. Shame nursery aren’t being more supportive.