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so am I "lesser" by default, or "greater" cos I've done more than peer out of a window?

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Maybethisyearornext · 16/06/2024 09:39

'When lesser mortals would have stayed at home, Catherine proved that the show goes on' | Writes @AllisonPearson in the telegraph

I find this indescribably offensive

I am a "lesser" cancer patient because I didn't attend the trooping of the colour? Ok, but I attended as many days of work as I could, and as many hospital appointments as was required, and that mean a mile walk to the station each time. And in the months I could not return to school premises I undertook small amounts of voluntary work in order to keep in touch with the world and work on my stamina

And I coped without any income at all in the 5 months it took the DWP to process my ESA claim - did this "greater" cancer patient do this?

I don't blame Princess Catherine. She is just muddling through the best she can like all of us, trying to cope with treatment, keep up her spirits, provide happy times for her family, be a useful citizen, and hope for the future

But how ignorant do you have to be to write that other cancer patients are "lesser mortals" - and how could an editor let that pass? Were they asleep at their desk?

Please complain or suggest any other way you can to react to this, and get it taken down, and get an apology - this has caused distress among many families this morning. I am not on twitter myself, can people who are on twitter say something please?

https://x.com/Telegraph/status/1802114337319932072

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https://x.com/Telegraph/status/1802114337319932072

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TheKeatingFive · 16/06/2024 10:09

Royal commentary is all total nonsense, don't give it any headspace

Auntimabelsbudgie · 16/06/2024 10:08

Maybethisyearornext · 16/06/2024 09:46

sorry, I have just been called a "lesser mortal" for staying at home (some of the time) when I have cancer. I have the right end of the right stick

No, you don't

Auntimabelsbudgie · 16/06/2024 10:07

ohfourfoxache · 16/06/2024 09:42

Totally agree

Pearson is a cunt

Calling someone that, is disgusting.

CurryOnRegardless · 16/06/2024 10:06

Well, you did exactly what Catherine did: did go to work and other things when you were able to.

Catherine could easily have maintained her ‘stay out of the public eye’ strategy, but broke it to fulfill ‘royal duty’. I took it to mean that others might well have played her royal privilege card and stayed out of the public eye. In Catherine’s circumstances.

Not that anyone undergoing cancer treatment is a lesser mortal because they stay at home at times when they are not well enough , don’t have the energy or the wish to do some task.

Most people in treatment have to force themselves to do some things that are hard because they don’t have the support.

Catherine has paid support for everything, a PR team to protect her, every support that could make it possible to stay at home. But she chose to attend, despite not having to.

That’s all.

But I can see that it is a phrase that applied generally, out of the specific context, could be taken personally by people in the most sensitive circumstances.

5128gap · 16/06/2024 10:03

Don't take it personally. Its just the usual fawning language always used about the royal family. You have to remember their very existence requires on the population accepting that this particular family of human beings are elevated to superiority over the rest of us, to be bowed to, and awarded huge privilege for no good reason. This language just serves to reinforce the message they are our 'betters' in case the cognitive dissonance required to tolerate monarchy slips. The POW did well yesterday. Everyone's health is different.

Auntimabelsbudgie · 16/06/2024 10:02

Maybethisyearornext · 16/06/2024 09:47

honestly, this has caused so much distress in families this morning, especially among the children of cancer patients

How do you know?
She wasn't having a dig at cancer patients per se, tather this is someone with cancer who is getting back into work (on a very public satge) whereas some wimps refuse to go to work because they feel a bit queasy, or have a headache

Cattery · 16/06/2024 10:02

@Churchview The ACTUAL tonic we need is a good Euros tournament and a new government. The country doesn’t depend on one member of the Royal family for a feel good factor (despite how lovely she is). I wish her well

Houseofdragonsisback · 16/06/2024 09:59

No offence to Catherine who I wish only good things for, but what bilge is this that seeing one woman in public is the 'tonic Britain needed'?

It’s cringe

Churchview · 16/06/2024 09:57

Just had a look at that twitter link.

Strapline - Fair Lady: Princess of Wale's selfless display just the tonic Britain needed.

No offence to Catherine who I wish only good things for, but what bilge is this that seeing one woman in public is the 'tonic Britain needed'?

Absolute nonsensical, arse kissing bollocks churned out as opium for the masses.

Cheguevarahamster · 16/06/2024 09:55

@Maybethisyearornext i wish you well.

saveforthat · 16/06/2024 09:55

Maybethisyearornext · 16/06/2024 09:50

or might not have been able to go, you don't get a choice when you have cancer, there are days you can do things and days you cannot do things. You are not in any way a "lesser mortal" if you cant do something today, or if you cant do something ever again

Yes. I understand that. I have had cancer. I worked part time from home I only had 2 weeks sick pay so I worked when I didn't feel like it. I would definitely have taken more time off if I had been paid. I don't think you are lesser and you are taking this way too personally.

JustGettingStarted · 16/06/2024 09:55

You went to work when you could. She's gone to work when she could.

WTH?

Maybethisyearornext · 16/06/2024 09:55

Icarus40 · 16/06/2024 09:52

But you are saying that you did go out and about - your show did go on. Hospital appointments, voluntary work etc. So you'd be in the same category as Catherine by this logic, rather than the 'lesser mortals' category.

It's a stupid and hurtful thing to write either way though and I can see why it would upset people.

Thanks. I am upset by cancer patient being put in the "lesser mortal" category

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Chocolateteabag · 16/06/2024 09:54

Totally agree with you OP

It is a stupid, thoughtless comment by a stupid thoughtless person

Cheguevarahamster · 16/06/2024 09:54

This is nauseating. I wish Kate well, but this forelock tugging is sickening

Ponoka7 · 16/06/2024 09:54

midgetastic · 16/06/2024 09:45

She was doing her job when she can

As you did yours

Why do you think you are being accused of being lesser ?

If you had been super rich with no need to work , would you have worked as much as you did ?

Stop looking for offence

It is offensive. We need to acknowledge that the royals are not running their own households, or fully looking after their children. That frees up energy to turn up for events. Which entails having someone turn up to do hair/makeup, get in a car and stand around a bit. As the OP says, there's more required to attend hospital appointments/treatments, for us 'lesser mortals'.

It shows the lack of gratitude for the privilege of wealth and status. There might be lesser mortals in their ranks, but you'd be pushed to find them "below stairs".

Houseofdragonsisback · 16/06/2024 09:53

It’s sycophantic rubbish, just ignore.

DirtyCheeseBurger · 16/06/2024 09:53

I agree.very tone deaf. Wishing you all the best x

Wimbledonmum1985 · 16/06/2024 09:53

Gosh, I have had cancer and take no offence whatsoever in that. Fair play to Catherine, I know how hard it is to get up and play a role when feeling wretched. Definitely a lot of overthinking here.

Icarus40 · 16/06/2024 09:52

But you are saying that you did go out and about - your show did go on. Hospital appointments, voluntary work etc. So you'd be in the same category as Catherine by this logic, rather than the 'lesser mortals' category.

It's a stupid and hurtful thing to write either way though and I can see why it would upset people.

Cattery · 16/06/2024 09:50

I think it’s poorly worded but I think the gist is that she will have the eyes of the world on her whereas the rest of us are far luckier in the respect that we don’t. We aren’t “lesser” we are able to be private

PracticallyYesterday · 16/06/2024 09:50

am a "lesser" cancer patient because I didn't attend the trooping of the colour? Ok, but I attended as many days of work as I could

I would see you attending work as the equivalent of Catherine attending a royal duty - if anything, a greater show of strength given the effort of your journey.

Pearson's comment is tone deaf.

Maybethisyearornext · 16/06/2024 09:50

saveforthat · 16/06/2024 09:46

What I think it means is, some people, if they were in that privileged position of having all their needs met and not having to do a regular job would not have bothered to go.

or might not have been able to go, you don't get a choice when you have cancer, there are days you can do things and days you cannot do things. You are not in any way a "lesser mortal" if you cant do something today, or if you cant do something ever again

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Churchview · 16/06/2024 09:49

Alison Pearson has made a career out of saying offensive and thoughtless things.

The media is full of journalists who spend all their days churning out absolute inanities and obsequious nonsense about the royal family. Editors let it pass as it's how they make their brass.

I'm not on Twitter so can't comment on there but I guess Pearson only writes crap to get a response and that no response is the best answer to her perpetual shitehousery.

I wish you well OP. Don't let the bastards get you down.

Maybethisyearornext · 16/06/2024 09:48

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 16/06/2024 09:46

Even some of the comments on the Telegraph article are quite sarcastic about her tone, it’s not completely landed with her target audience as it’s so OTT.

good, I am glad about that, thanks

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