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so am I "lesser" by default, or "greater" cos I've done more than peer out of a window?

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Maybethisyearornext · 16/06/2024 09:39

'When lesser mortals would have stayed at home, Catherine proved that the show goes on' | Writes @AllisonPearson in the telegraph

I find this indescribably offensive

I am a "lesser" cancer patient because I didn't attend the trooping of the colour? Ok, but I attended as many days of work as I could, and as many hospital appointments as was required, and that mean a mile walk to the station each time. And in the months I could not return to school premises I undertook small amounts of voluntary work in order to keep in touch with the world and work on my stamina

And I coped without any income at all in the 5 months it took the DWP to process my ESA claim - did this "greater" cancer patient do this?

I don't blame Princess Catherine. She is just muddling through the best she can like all of us, trying to cope with treatment, keep up her spirits, provide happy times for her family, be a useful citizen, and hope for the future

But how ignorant do you have to be to write that other cancer patients are "lesser mortals" - and how could an editor let that pass? Were they asleep at their desk?

Please complain or suggest any other way you can to react to this, and get it taken down, and get an apology - this has caused distress among many families this morning. I am not on twitter myself, can people who are on twitter say something please?

https://x.com/Telegraph/status/1802114337319932072

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daliesque · 16/06/2024 12:53

PS royals don't work. Getting dressed up, often in uniforms covered in medals they have not earned, smiling and waving is not work.

daliesque · 16/06/2024 12:52

And she was having a dig at us, she literally called us "lesser mortals

I spend my days treating "lesser mortals" like you and have seen first hand the effects of chemo, radiotherapy, hair loss, loss of identity and the millions of other things you are going through every day for the last 20-odd years.
You are not lesser than someone who leads a pampered life and is not ever going to be confronted by the reality of having to build back a life, work, deal with family without a bunch of sycophants around them. As an oncologist and as someone who had cancer, you are not the lesser mortals. The lesser mortal is the one who realised the self indulgent twaddle Friday just in time to be headline news at 6pm.

Just keep plodding on and know that you are a bloody hero to people like me. Flowers

Chocolatedinosaurs · 16/06/2024 12:49

I had cancer and I’m not offended by that. I continued to work throughout my 6 months of chemo but I’m glad I could do that in the privacy of my own home. If I felt crap I could stay in my pjs. But Cathrine has the eyes of the world on her, having cancer is hard enough without everyone making comments about how she looks etc.

Wimbledonmum1985 · 16/06/2024 12:46

CassandraWebb · 16/06/2024 12:44

I don't have cancer and I don't think it's an overreaction. I think it would be totally understandable to be rattled by that kind of comment.

I have had cancer and think it a total overreaction. I don’t think it is understandable to be rattled by it.

CassandraWebb · 16/06/2024 12:44

Wimbledonmum1985 · 16/06/2024 12:04

Totally agree. Complete overreaction. Move on and get on with your day. Nobody thinks you, or indeed any of us who’ve gone through cancer, is less than Catherine.

I don't have cancer and I don't think it's an overreaction. I think it would be totally understandable to be rattled by that kind of comment.

Saschka · 16/06/2024 12:40

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 16/06/2024 10:53

@Saschka the article was in the telegraph

Same difference at this point quite honestly - it’s gone downhill massively in the last 10-15 years.

OriginalUsername2 · 16/06/2024 12:36

It’s crappy journo speak with a side of royal bum licking.

Bbq1 · 16/06/2024 12:28

Maybethisyearornext · 16/06/2024 09:47

honestly, this has caused so much distress in families this morning, especially among the children of cancer patients

I am sorry for what you're going through. I have had the same cancer twice in 12 years and I am currently in recovery from a bone marrow transplant to hopefully prevent it from reoccurring again. I'm not offended by this journalist. It's just journo speak and because Catherine is in the public eye. He and the rest of society certainly aren't calling us lesser mortals. It's thoughtless but try not to let it affect you. I think of myself, you and other cancer survivors as very strong.

MrsSlocombesCat · 16/06/2024 12:19

I literally just got a notification that Narinder Kaur has posted this on Twitter describing it s a disgusting thing to say. She has over 24000 followers 😉

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 16/06/2024 12:15

@Wimbledonmum1985 except for the writer of course.

commonground · 16/06/2024 12:05

Oof, it's a real kicker of an article. So insidious.

On the one hand, she is praising Catherine for not being at home tucked up in her 'jim jams' (like all you 'lesser mortals').

Then in the next paragraph she is sticking the boot in - saying the illness has 'definitely taken its toll' , the POW is 'more slender' (eg very thin) with 'heavier make-up than usual'. Meow.

And then, most hilariously, making the whole spectacle somehow Meghan's fault "Particular spite has come from the Sussex camp"

The only spiteful one here sounds like Pearson herself. What a sneery and unpleasant article.

Wimbledonmum1985 · 16/06/2024 12:04

Saschka · 16/06/2024 10:50

Honestly if your adult children have contacted you in distress because some sycophantic arse has written a fawning column about Catherine in the Daily Mail, maybe they should stop reading it? It’s an absolute irrelevance.

And surely the whole point of having a Royal Family is that we are all “lesser mortals”, and the aristocracy are “our betters”? They literally are, legally, above us (and above the law). Which is why I think it should be abolished…

Totally agree. Complete overreaction. Move on and get on with your day. Nobody thinks you, or indeed any of us who’ve gone through cancer, is less than Catherine.

CassandraWebb · 16/06/2024 12:02

thisiswheretheseagullfliesaway · 16/06/2024 11:47

Indeed Cassandra. My son has a plexiform fibroma on his spine and lung but as an old teacher said least it's not cancer.

The main comment made me cringe yesterday was Bravest Woman in the World ...

I've just looked that up, that sounds unbearably tough to cope with for you and your son and I am so sorry you have had stupid comments like that. I hope you are finding places and people that understand and offer support xx

audweb · 16/06/2024 12:01

Horrific thing to write.

horrific especially as it’s directed to those with cancer, and generally horrible because none of us are lesser just because we are not royalty.

Thmssngvwlsrnd · 16/06/2024 12:00

Sahara123 · 16/06/2024 11:02

On one level I’m not sure I actually agree with this. She will have gone through the same gut wrenching panic, the same how do I tell my children moments. The same feeling horrendous after whatever treatments or surgeries we all have . She may well be in a posher hospital and have consultants on tap but she still has the same heartbreaking feelings.
What is different is that she has the eyes of the world on her , the first announcement she made sitting on that bench looking like she just wanted to hide away was something most of us will never have to do . And yesterday, knowing that probably millions of people were probably watching her every move .

Well yes, but the other difference of course is that she knows she will have access to the best treatment money can buy and that she didn't have to go on a waiting list. So they were two worries she didn't have.

OP I agree with you 💐

NextPhaseOfLife · 16/06/2024 11:58

Maybethisyearornext · 16/06/2024 09:47

honestly, this has caused so much distress in families this morning, especially among the children of cancer patients

I'm so sorry about this, and you are 100% correct.

What a shitty, shitty thing to write.

sebanna · 16/06/2024 11:53

It's a strangely worded article because who else is in her position? Apart from King Charles. Most people wouldn't attend the trooping of the colour anyway, whether they had cancer or not. So you can't really use it as a comparison.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 16/06/2024 11:49

The goal of newspaper columnists these days is to be goady and post strong opinions on shit so that they can make more money and develop a name for themselves.
Its The Telegraph- of course they were going to be OTT about Catherine’s return even if it’s only to relieve themselves of the guilt of bring swept up in the rumours during her absence.
Catherine’s return is a good thing but her journey with cancer will look different because of her unique circumstances and nobody is going to know what that’s like so journalists discussing that is pretty pointless.

thisiswheretheseagullfliesaway · 16/06/2024 11:47

CassandraWebb · 16/06/2024 11:33

Exactly.

Also, "at least it's not cancer" when said to people with equally devastating and debilitating conditions

People are so often just not rational or fair around illness and it is really frustrating.

Indeed Cassandra. My son has a plexiform fibroma on his spine and lung but as an old teacher said least it's not cancer.

The main comment made me cringe yesterday was Bravest Woman in the World ...

CassandraWebb · 16/06/2024 11:33

Theothername · 16/06/2024 11:26

It’s similar to the discourse about “fighting” cancer, as though dying is a character flaw.

People get sick. Some people get sicker than others.

Exactly.

Also, "at least it's not cancer" when said to people with equally devastating and debilitating conditions

People are so often just not rational or fair around illness and it is really frustrating.

magicmole · 16/06/2024 11:31

Auntimabelsbudgie · 16/06/2024 10:02

How do you know?
She wasn't having a dig at cancer patients per se, tather this is someone with cancer who is getting back into work (on a very public satge) whereas some wimps refuse to go to work because they feel a bit queasy, or have a headache

She explicitly mentions cancer patients, she isn't talking about people who don't go to work because they're a bit poorly.

"Two words: Thank you. Thank you Princess of Wales for being an absolute trouper and attending Trooping the Colour on a cold, grey day when lesser mortals with your illness would have stayed home, tucked up in their jim-jams".

I thought OP was perhaps being a bit unreasonable, that it was just a tactless headline/sub heading (as they aren't written by the journalist) but then I read the whole piece and I'm not surprised that the OP (and others) might be upset.

LoveSandbanks · 16/06/2024 11:26

I’ve delivered food bank parcels to women who cannot work due to a cancer diagnosis. They’re on zero hours contracts and have to wait 5 weeks for the dwp to decide whether they’re entitled to any benefits. Most people undergoing chemo are in full time work for as much time as is humanly possible.

yes it’s terrible that Kate has cancer but it’s far, far more terrible for almost everyone else. There’s nothing heroic about standing on a fecking balcony and to imply that she’s done something that other cancer sufferers could not do it fucking offensive.

Theothername · 16/06/2024 11:26

It’s similar to the discourse about “fighting” cancer, as though dying is a character flaw.

People get sick. Some people get sicker than others.

Foxxo · 16/06/2024 11:21

Absolutely ridiculous thing to put in a paper, and unnecessary.

I will say though, those of you who do get to go to work, aren't about to be subject to the worlds press and the eyes of millions looking for every tiny crack or flaw in the façade of being 'well enough' to do what you're doing.

theowlwhisperer · 16/06/2024 11:20

Bruciebogtrotter · 16/06/2024 11:08

I agree with you OP. I feel the same about the way cancer is talked about as being a battle to be won. You hear it all the time, people beating cancer because they never gave up fighting. Like the ones who died just didn’t fight hard enough.

I understand your point, but I think it's more a way to try to stress how hard it is to go through the entire process, it is a battle. No one knows how hard it is until they go through with it, but I don't think people believe you die because you don't fight hard enough, that's not the idea.