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so am I "lesser" by default, or "greater" cos I've done more than peer out of a window?

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Maybethisyearornext · 16/06/2024 09:39

'When lesser mortals would have stayed at home, Catherine proved that the show goes on' | Writes @AllisonPearson in the telegraph

I find this indescribably offensive

I am a "lesser" cancer patient because I didn't attend the trooping of the colour? Ok, but I attended as many days of work as I could, and as many hospital appointments as was required, and that mean a mile walk to the station each time. And in the months I could not return to school premises I undertook small amounts of voluntary work in order to keep in touch with the world and work on my stamina

And I coped without any income at all in the 5 months it took the DWP to process my ESA claim - did this "greater" cancer patient do this?

I don't blame Princess Catherine. She is just muddling through the best she can like all of us, trying to cope with treatment, keep up her spirits, provide happy times for her family, be a useful citizen, and hope for the future

But how ignorant do you have to be to write that other cancer patients are "lesser mortals" - and how could an editor let that pass? Were they asleep at their desk?

Please complain or suggest any other way you can to react to this, and get it taken down, and get an apology - this has caused distress among many families this morning. I am not on twitter myself, can people who are on twitter say something please?

https://x.com/Telegraph/status/1802114337319932072

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Maybethisyearornext · 16/06/2024 22:09

TheFairyCaravan · 16/06/2024 15:00

YANBU at all @Maybethisyearornext imo it’s incredibly offensive.

A cancer specialist has called her out over it on Twitter.

Thank you for posting this

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Valeriekat · 16/06/2024 21:24

Maybethisyearornext · 16/06/2024 09:42

really, when was the last time you were called a "lesser mortal" as a cancer patient in the national press?

If you appeared, the whole world wouldn't be looking at you to see how you looked. Sorry you are ill but there is no comparison.

Mostlycarbon · 16/06/2024 17:52

I think you should write that up as a letter and send it to the paper.

Wimbledonmum1985 · 16/06/2024 17:28

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 16/06/2024 15:57

@Wimbledonmum1985 she's talking about the author of the article not Kate. Kate didn't write the article.

Well it was Catherine who used her statement on Friday evening - not Allison Pearson. So I haven’t misunderstood . 🙄

trainwreckwendy · 16/06/2024 16:31

I cannot believe anyone is being anything but supportive about this OP. I'm sorry. You have every right to be irritated by this sycophantic, disrespectful and tone deaf journalism. The writer clearly has a turgid potato rather than a brain. Wishing you a full and speedy recovery.

HollyKnight · 16/06/2024 16:09

I agree with you. It takes the approach that cancer is the same for everyone, and therefore it is a person's character that defines how they handle that cancer. I.e. The PoW went to work because she is strong, and other people who don't go to work are weak. Lesser.

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 16/06/2024 15:57

@Wimbledonmum1985 she's talking about the author of the article not Kate. Kate didn't write the article.

Wimbledonmum1985 · 16/06/2024 15:54

daliesque · 16/06/2024 12:52

And she was having a dig at us, she literally called us "lesser mortals

I spend my days treating "lesser mortals" like you and have seen first hand the effects of chemo, radiotherapy, hair loss, loss of identity and the millions of other things you are going through every day for the last 20-odd years.
You are not lesser than someone who leads a pampered life and is not ever going to be confronted by the reality of having to build back a life, work, deal with family without a bunch of sycophants around them. As an oncologist and as someone who had cancer, you are not the lesser mortals. The lesser mortal is the one who realised the self indulgent twaddle Friday just in time to be headline news at 6pm.

Just keep plodding on and know that you are a bloody hero to people like me. Flowers

‘Self indulgent twaddle’? What a way to speak about someone navigating cancer. After all you’ve said about treating patients. Shame on you.

Cancermummy · 16/06/2024 15:11

I agree you're overthinking this and I'm a cancer patient too.

That quote applies to you too don't you see. You pointed out all the tough things you've done such as walking a mile and volunteering when you couldn't' work. I didn't do that so yes that was you making sure 'the show goes on'.

I had just become a mum for the first time when I got my cancer diagnosis so that quote applies to me too. I did hard stuff that I'm sure others would have struggled with, it was just different to you and Catherine.

I think we all have our own versions of 'the show goes on' but it's not putting other people to say not everyone could have managed the same thing. Whether that's attending the trooping of colour as a princess, walking a mile and holding down a job or juggling a new baby, chemo and surgery.

TheFairyCaravan · 16/06/2024 15:00

YANBU at all @Maybethisyearornext imo it’s incredibly offensive.

A cancer specialist has called her out over it on Twitter.

so am I "lesser" by default, or "greater" cos I've done more than peer out of a window?
godmum56 · 16/06/2024 14:54

My husband died of incurable cancer and I find that comment enraging. Its along the same lines as "lost the fight" as though its the sufferer's fault that they died and if they have been stronger, fought harder then cancer wouldn't have "won" which is another word use that enrages me. Its not even the fact that Catherine has less to do because she lives a wealthy life but simply because the rest of cancer sufferers who don't have so many good days have been judged by this awful woman. Kate herself has stated how hard threatment is and that she has both good and bad days, I am sure that this comment will be annoying her too.

daliesque · 16/06/2024 14:49

@Flopsythebunny just this Flowers

Floorbard · 16/06/2024 14:37

Expect nothing less from the torygraph, to be honest

periodiclabel · 16/06/2024 14:35

I was just reading this and saying to DH how unbelievably offensive that “lesser mortal” was. But Allison Pearson is totally vile and unhinged so so would expect no less - I’ll never get over those comments she made about Ellie Simmonds being unacceptable on strictly because she had a visible disability and the show was all about glamour 😡

MinistryOfTragic · 16/06/2024 14:03

Icarus40 · 16/06/2024 09:52

But you are saying that you did go out and about - your show did go on. Hospital appointments, voluntary work etc. So you'd be in the same category as Catherine by this logic, rather than the 'lesser mortals' category.

It's a stupid and hurtful thing to write either way though and I can see why it would upset people.

Exactly this. Your show also went on, as did mine at the time, so you're not being called lesser and I didn't consider myself being called lesser either having been in the same boat as you. It's a crap piece of journalism, but I'm not going to take it personally. Honestly, after a perspective shifting cancer diagnosis I can't get worked up over stuff like this.

Flopsythebunny · 16/06/2024 14:02

daliesque · 16/06/2024 12:52

And she was having a dig at us, she literally called us "lesser mortals

I spend my days treating "lesser mortals" like you and have seen first hand the effects of chemo, radiotherapy, hair loss, loss of identity and the millions of other things you are going through every day for the last 20-odd years.
You are not lesser than someone who leads a pampered life and is not ever going to be confronted by the reality of having to build back a life, work, deal with family without a bunch of sycophants around them. As an oncologist and as someone who had cancer, you are not the lesser mortals. The lesser mortal is the one who realised the self indulgent twaddle Friday just in time to be headline news at 6pm.

Just keep plodding on and know that you are a bloody hero to people like me. Flowers

As someone with 2 cancers and really struggling at the moment with the side effects of past treatments . Non hodgkins lymphoma and breast cancer, your post just made me cry.
You are a hero to people like me

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 16/06/2024 13:54

That article is teeth-squeakingly obsequious. 😬(Annoyingly, years ago I bought and loved several of AP's books but these days I wish I hadn't, after some of the sentiments she's spouted!)

OP I get what you're saying. Although Allison didn't use the words 'cancer warrior' there was definitely a whiff of that sentiment, which imo is othering to those whose treatment, coupled with the disease itself, is whipping their behind too much for them to feel very warrior-like.

dottiedodah · 16/06/2024 13:30

Thats what I do ! And am doing in a mo TBH! I am semi retired now luckily.

dottiedodah · 16/06/2024 13:19

TBH as a fellow Cancer sufferer I have gone above and beyond being "offended" by anything the National Press have to say! Examples : In the last few months My friend has been surprised I cant walk far! Another told me "No worries" Their NDN has Cancer and its nothing at all!Hmm... And on here a few days ago A Lady with Ovarian Cancer (same as mine) was told she was "no longer a woman, as she had no ovaries and a breast op ! So forgive me for not letting some lazy reporting get to me! AP and the Telegraph are right wing and show great reverence to the "Royals" Lots of ladies like me and OP have to battle on regardless! I feel for Kate as she is far younger than me ,However if you are dog tired /in pain /knackered from Chemo bloody lie down and have a well earned rest!

Americano75 · 16/06/2024 13:19

If anyone's a lesser mortal it's Pearson, she's a horror of a human.

JudgeJ · 16/06/2024 13:16

Maybethisyearornext · 16/06/2024 09:46

sorry, I have just been called a "lesser mortal" for staying at home (some of the time) when I have cancer. I have the right end of the right stick

As we've only seen the PoW once, yesterday, since her announcement I would imagine that she too had spent a lot of time under the duvet, but if you want to take it personally, crack on.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 16/06/2024 13:09

As we have no idea what type of cancer either Charles or Catherine have you can't even compare them let alone bring anyone else in the equation. Cancer is shit but it's likely to be more shit for people having to wait for diagnosis then treatment.

Bbq1 · 16/06/2024 13:04

I actually feel for Catherine. I choose what I want to do depending on how well i feel each day. Catherine might have felt rubbish yesterday but had to appear because they had said she would. True, waving isn't work but that is not her fault. Also, how horrible to be undergoing treatment and have people just pick you apart after one appearance. Yes, she doesn't have to worry about money etc but she still has cancer.
The journalist i wouldn't give another thought to.

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 16/06/2024 13:01

ScholesPanda · 16/06/2024 12:56

Sorry, YABU, although I understand you must be going through a lot.
The 'lesser mortals' are hypothetical other Princesses, not other cancer patients. It's a common literary device.
You're taking this personally, but you need to realise the article is about Princess Catherine not about you or anyone else.
Also, even if I'm wrong and you're right about the article, people constantly trying to censor anything that mildly upsets them and get people fired for expressing an opinion are really getting tiresome.
Hope you make a swift and full recovery 💐

The article literally says "lesser mortals with the same illness".

Not princesses. Not queens. Not little blue aliens from Mars.

ScholesPanda · 16/06/2024 12:56

Sorry, YABU, although I understand you must be going through a lot.
The 'lesser mortals' are hypothetical other Princesses, not other cancer patients. It's a common literary device.
You're taking this personally, but you need to realise the article is about Princess Catherine not about you or anyone else.
Also, even if I'm wrong and you're right about the article, people constantly trying to censor anything that mildly upsets them and get people fired for expressing an opinion are really getting tiresome.
Hope you make a swift and full recovery 💐