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To think DH should look harder for work?

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NameChaneAgain · 16/06/2024 01:05

DH is 50 and DS is 5, in his last term of reception.

DH hasn't worked since around the time I got pregnant. He lost his job just before I got pregnant. Things haven't been easy as he spent his life working in an industry that is now dying/pretty much dead, and only has ever looked for jobs in that industry/things closely related to that industry.

Currently, I do school drop offs and pickups almost every day. DH spends about 4-5 hours a day exercising which he says is good for his mental health (he has always been quite anxious), but then also barely speaks to anyone which I think is really bad for his mental health. He complained again tonight that there are things I won't talk about with him:

  • horrible true crime stuff that upsets me,
  • music that he likes (he keeps trying to play me songs that he likes but he belittles my taste in music and I've had enough),
  • football (I've told him he can tell me about football but he does have to accept that I have no real interest in it).
I have told him before that he should get a job so he can socialise with more people, but told him again tonight more forcefully and he is now moody.

DH is acting like he is entitled to never work again because I work nearly full time and am fortunate to have a comfortable salary (~£65k). I think he is becoming a shell of himself living his current life though.

DH says he is a SAHP but I do the majority of the parenting and DH doesn't do much around the house. The house is dirty and the front and back garden are absolutely full of weeds as DH thinks gardening is a waste of time.

He says I am forgetting that he looked after DS before he started school, but he started school last September and was in nursery half the week since he was 3. I didn't want to pressure him into getting a job too soon but he keeps talking as if he's going to do this forever.

So as not to drip-feed, I never really agreed DH should be a SAHP. I was working in a job I hated when I became pregnant and when his work dried up I encouraged him to find another as I said I didn't want to go back more than 3 days a week and we could share the burden of working. He never found anything that he liked so just started telling our friends and family that we was going to stay at home. Fortunately, I managed to find a job that I much preferred for the same money so didn't mind going back nearly full time in the end.

DH did send off his CV for one job a couple of months ago, but they asked him to do a phone interview and he said he was too anxious so just didn't do it.

It's difficult as we can get by on my salary so DH doesn't think him working is necessary, but I feel like he'd be better off in a job and it's not like he's doing loads around the house.

DH also says that we have the summer holidays coming up too but I end up having to take half a day off whenever DS is off school because DH can't parent him for an entire day unless he just sticks him in front of a screen so DH can listen to his music 🤦‍♀️

If you've read all that, AIBU?

OP posts:
waterrat · 16/06/2024 10:15

I wonder what in your own childhood has allowed you to set the bar so unbelievably low for your partner.

This man would be a spoilt selfish individual if he was your 16 year old son doing a spot of babysitting keeping his headphones on the whole time

He is not engaging with parenting or paying the bills.

I think you need therapy to assess your acceptance of his behavior

Snugglemonkey · 16/06/2024 10:10

C1N1C · 16/06/2024 06:40

The insinuation on this thread is that men are only useful for money... Nice.

I think you need to have a conversation with him, and be firm. If he has no interest in working, then he has to do his fair share around the house and garden. Give him a list. Tell him essentially that he has to pay his way as any SAHP pays their way.

A SAHP is cooking, cooking, cleaning, looking after the kids, doing the food shops, gardening, etc. If you're bringing in the money to feed him, clothe him, maintain him, for the roof over his head, car, petrol, entertainment... then he has to do an equal amount of work to justify his 'salary'.

I disagree. Money is one way to contribute, but he is not contributing in other ways either. He is not supporting op emotionally, he is not running the house, he is not doing the parenting. He is literally useless.

BuggeryBumFlaps · 16/06/2024 10:10

He's not being a sahp, he's being a bloke who does the bare minimum and leaves his wife to take all the financial responsibility and do the lions share of the housework and childcare.

This isn't a partnership, he's taking the piss out of you, and your dc.

My friend had one of these, got a huge inheritance and decided to stop working, which was fine whilst he could afford it, but now he's running out of money, think 100s of 1000s of ££'s. But he still does fuck all. My friend does all the cooking, all the house work, runs the kids to clubs etc and all he does is the occasional bit of ironing, all whilst she holds down a full time job. Needless to say any respect and love she had for him has long gone and she's planning to leave him.

Snugglemonkey · 16/06/2024 10:09

Why do you not want to pressure him? I would. He is of no use to you. He can take a job anywhere to get money coming in or fuck off.

Naunet · 16/06/2024 10:08

NameChaneAgain · 16/06/2024 08:47

Why isn’t he doing school drop offs and pick ups? Or atleast some of them (asking you want to do some)

DS's school is near my work and I like seeing him so I don't mind this. It's more that I would like him to be doing something more productive whilst I am doing it.

I'm 36 for those asking.

Wow, men have got it absolutely made. A younger woman financially supporting him, and doing most of the housework and childcare whilst he does what he wants. I honestly starting to think men really are smarter than women.

I don’t want to be nasty OP, but good god, where is your self respect? He is taking the absolute piss out of you.

Manhere2024 · 16/06/2024 10:06

OP, does your DH have wealthy and ancient parents? Is there a windfall coming his way that he’s perhaps banking on, and that may also change for the better your lifestyle?

HFJ · 16/06/2024 10:06

justenterausername · 16/06/2024 10:02

You are absolutely right. But op also seriously lacks of action.

Possibly in denial. I’m just reading a few other threads in which men seem to be able to use separation/divorce/the legal system as a way of continuing to control women, causing them all kinds of misery. I’d be horrified if my sons did this to women.

ladygindiva · 16/06/2024 10:05

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Yup. Lose the cocklodger ASAP.

FangsForTheMemory · 16/06/2024 10:05

If he kept your house and garden in perfect shape, that would be ok if you were both happy with that, but he sounds like a lazy person who will do the least he possibly can.

I would be planning life as a single person.

justenterausername · 16/06/2024 10:02

HFJ · 16/06/2024 09:38

His (lack of) actions suggests he doesn’t care about you or your child. If he doesn’t care about you, he doesn’t love you either. He only thinks of himself.

You are only 36 and he is 50. At some point his body will start to wear out from all that exercise. 3 to 5 hours a day of exercise is amateur athlete level. Both amateur and professional athletes eventually find their chosen sport is no longer possible. What will he do then? You’ll probably have to pay for him to have knee surgery btw.

In 20 year’s time, he will be 70 and you 56. You will be enjoying more freedom as your child is a young adult. You will be thinking about getting out there, post-menopause, living it up. But oh no, he needs you to care for him now that his selfish legs don’t work anymore. So you’ll spend 20 years doting on him.

I could continue. It doesn’t bode well for you.

But it doesn’t have to be like this.

You are absolutely right. But op also seriously lacks of action.

Roseyjane · 16/06/2024 10:00

christ, stay at home parent, the respectable title that the Netflix watching workshy use to justify staying home and leeching off their partners.. Completely undermining those who are actively parenting. Is he also claiming he’s helped you get where you are today?

look op. He’s not going to get a job. It’s that simple. You can’t change who he is. You can’t force him. So you either continue to put up with this and carry him or you end it.

Nanny0gg · 16/06/2024 09:59

NameChaneAgain · 16/06/2024 01:20

In the nicest possible way, what, if anything, is he bringing to the table?

He does do a reasonable bit of parenting at the weekends/after school - he gets DS ready for school and sorts his food after school. Although he lets DS have the iPad during meals so DH is listening to music a lot of the time when he is with DS.

Having said that, I have more time with DS whilst holding down my job too. I think there's a lack of balance.

I do love DH and don't want to leave him, but I feel he's ended up in a situation where he can just do what he wants pretty much all day, and it's not good for him. He's reverting to acting like a teenager and I don't want to be his mum.

I don't need him to be super ambitious and have just suggested that he look for a generic part-time office job (i.e. not connected to his former work) a few days a week so he can still have some time on his days off to do his extremely long exercise sessions.

Seriously? What's loveable?

He's leaving EVERYTHING to you

At the very least, he needs to take on lion's share of house.

He can build his confidence up by at least doing voluntary work - that could lead to something

Beware of childcare - if you do find you've had enough he could go for more childcare - he could end up with the house and maintenance for your DC

AlmostCutMyHairToday · 16/06/2024 09:56

Following (in similar position)

justenterausername · 16/06/2024 09:54

You’re a mug.

Honestly, if you are only 36 this will only get worse. The longer you accept the situation the further away he is from ever getting a job.

He also must be painfully boring to talk to if all he does is exercise.

But you will do nothing about it.

stayathomer · 16/06/2024 09:53

I think you need to talk to him as you have here and say 1) if he’s a sahp he needs to take over the sahping and 2) that he needs at least a pt job to get him back into society- because it sounds like he’s seriously removed if he finds so much so stressful.

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 16/06/2024 09:52

So your husband has effectively retired, made himself financially dependent on you without even discussing it and become a recluse? You deserve better than that.

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 16/06/2024 09:51

What did my dh do when he was made redundant? He had 6 months as sahd, actually doing everything, then got a low stress job in local supermarket. He was suffering from depression too, but he was adult enough to know that he had to pull his weight. He was a similar age also.
This one is an absolute chancer.

Manhere2024 · 16/06/2024 09:46

Setting a very low bar here, OP, but at least you haven’t mentioned that he’s addicted to OnlyFans or sending money to dominatrixes, or playing computer games all day.

And he’s not having an online emotional affair with another true crime nerd.

So, it could be worse. However any of those could be risks for the future as he sinks deeper into middle-aged manchildhood.

Secretriver · 16/06/2024 09:39

I’d echo what everyone else is saying. That’s just not sustainable for a relationship long term, but I wondered about small manageable steps for him (thinking about anxiety, avoidance etc). Is there an Andy’s Man’s Club near you? There might be if it’s a region with list industry in particular. They’re brilliant for meeting men’s mental health/peer support needs in an accessible way & might bridge the gap back into the “real world” for him (& you)?

Lentilweaver · 16/06/2024 09:38

Oh just read that he is too anxious to speak to people either on the phone or in person. Yeah, I could not be putting up with this. I would lose all respect.

HFJ · 16/06/2024 09:38

His (lack of) actions suggests he doesn’t care about you or your child. If he doesn’t care about you, he doesn’t love you either. He only thinks of himself.

You are only 36 and he is 50. At some point his body will start to wear out from all that exercise. 3 to 5 hours a day of exercise is amateur athlete level. Both amateur and professional athletes eventually find their chosen sport is no longer possible. What will he do then? You’ll probably have to pay for him to have knee surgery btw.

In 20 year’s time, he will be 70 and you 56. You will be enjoying more freedom as your child is a young adult. You will be thinking about getting out there, post-menopause, living it up. But oh no, he needs you to care for him now that his selfish legs don’t work anymore. So you’ll spend 20 years doting on him.

I could continue. It doesn’t bode well for you.

But it doesn’t have to be like this.

Netcam · 16/06/2024 09:33

I don't think it's fair that he spends 4-5 hours exercise a day and then doesn't take on the responsibilities of a SAHP. There's nothing wrong with him being a SAHP if it has been agreed between you that this is his role, but it is reasonable for you to expect him to spend a good amount of the time you are at work fulfilling that role.

If you love him and want it to work out, you need an honest and open discussion with him about this. Maybe you could try couple therapy?

I would expect a SAHP to get DS ready for school, do school runs, clean the house and do laundry during the day, make dinner and do some activities with DS during the holidays when you are working. If DH has some free time to exercise during the day, great, but I think 4-5 hours is excessive.

Sometimes things need to change. I recently got a full time job after doing part time freelance work for many years while my DS were younger. Before I even started applying for full time jobs we had a good discussion about how things would work in terms of household tasks and management as I previously did most of it.

It has worked out well as we now share household tasks and DH has been happy to take on more, which has enabled me to manage the transition to a full time job.

Oblomov24 · 16/06/2024 09:32

I can't believe I'm reading this nonsense. Do you have good self esteem, come from a loving family? How can you NOT know that this is not ok. For you to even tolerate this. Why marry such a waste of space.

We all know industries are dying. You use your skills to transfer to something else. If you've got no get up and go, you don't. And to plead the old anxiety trump card to excuse everything is pitiful. Bet he hasn't tried everything, gp counselling everything, to address.

dottiedodah · 16/06/2024 09:32

SpringerFall I was a SAHP for many years .Difference being I could manage the following : A whole day with my DC ,a dog ,Mum as well some days .Also managed a PT evening job,Students in Summer (Half board arrangement) All the housework barring hoovering, Spectacular amounts of laundry and home made cakes /biscuits . I am going to get stick for this ,but nothing pisses me off more than a lazy man! My Grandad worked till 65 and then PT till 70! Most put out that Nan was still working when he retired .Told her she would have to leave too .in case people started talking about him being a "kept" man!

Marblessolveeverything · 16/06/2024 09:16

Ah yes the illusive SAHP who doesn't parent. I had one of those and he literally did zilch bar keep the children alive. Also had MH but while officially engaged didn't take the medication not completed the exercises to help.

His exercise was education, so holds multiple very high level qualifications and never engaged with any supportive employment scheme.

Accompanied by other issues I ended the marriage it wasn't a partnership. In a fair partnership now, my only regret is I didn't do it earlier.

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