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To think DH should look harder for work?

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NameChaneAgain · 16/06/2024 01:05

DH is 50 and DS is 5, in his last term of reception.

DH hasn't worked since around the time I got pregnant. He lost his job just before I got pregnant. Things haven't been easy as he spent his life working in an industry that is now dying/pretty much dead, and only has ever looked for jobs in that industry/things closely related to that industry.

Currently, I do school drop offs and pickups almost every day. DH spends about 4-5 hours a day exercising which he says is good for his mental health (he has always been quite anxious), but then also barely speaks to anyone which I think is really bad for his mental health. He complained again tonight that there are things I won't talk about with him:

  • horrible true crime stuff that upsets me,
  • music that he likes (he keeps trying to play me songs that he likes but he belittles my taste in music and I've had enough),
  • football (I've told him he can tell me about football but he does have to accept that I have no real interest in it).
I have told him before that he should get a job so he can socialise with more people, but told him again tonight more forcefully and he is now moody.

DH is acting like he is entitled to never work again because I work nearly full time and am fortunate to have a comfortable salary (~£65k). I think he is becoming a shell of himself living his current life though.

DH says he is a SAHP but I do the majority of the parenting and DH doesn't do much around the house. The house is dirty and the front and back garden are absolutely full of weeds as DH thinks gardening is a waste of time.

He says I am forgetting that he looked after DS before he started school, but he started school last September and was in nursery half the week since he was 3. I didn't want to pressure him into getting a job too soon but he keeps talking as if he's going to do this forever.

So as not to drip-feed, I never really agreed DH should be a SAHP. I was working in a job I hated when I became pregnant and when his work dried up I encouraged him to find another as I said I didn't want to go back more than 3 days a week and we could share the burden of working. He never found anything that he liked so just started telling our friends and family that we was going to stay at home. Fortunately, I managed to find a job that I much preferred for the same money so didn't mind going back nearly full time in the end.

DH did send off his CV for one job a couple of months ago, but they asked him to do a phone interview and he said he was too anxious so just didn't do it.

It's difficult as we can get by on my salary so DH doesn't think him working is necessary, but I feel like he'd be better off in a job and it's not like he's doing loads around the house.

DH also says that we have the summer holidays coming up too but I end up having to take half a day off whenever DS is off school because DH can't parent him for an entire day unless he just sticks him in front of a screen so DH can listen to his music 🤦‍♀️

If you've read all that, AIBU?

OP posts:
Codlingmoths · 16/06/2024 14:03

Marrta · 16/06/2024 12:33

I agree with a previous comment that it's good for your child to have a stay at home parent, and you can afford it. It seems you don't realise how hard it is looking after a child instead of working

It certainly can be good. This child wouldn’t know, they don’t have a stay at home parent. They don’t even have a there for them in the holidays parent like teachers kids. Well, they kind of do, but it’s the op. And that other biological parent sometimes does a half day,
but it’s hard on him so he has to spend it listening to his music and ignoring the child so he can cope. Before going off to his marathon training. I can’t even, what a waste of space in the ops life he is.

GinForBreakfast · 16/06/2024 13:16

You're 36? Excellent, you have a brilliant life ahead without him, and the ability to recover financially from the divorce.

Imagine the next 30 years financially supporting this loser. Imagine being 65 and going out to work every day while he's had the best part of four decades to please himself off the back of your earnings. Imagine having to factor his spending on his hobbies in your retirement planning.

That's not a life.

godmum56 · 16/06/2024 13:13

"I do love DH and don't want to leave him, but I feel he's ended up in a situation where he can just do what he wants pretty much all day, and it's not good for him. He's reverting to acting like a teenager and I don't want to be his mum."

Have you said this to him, using these words?

westisbest1982 · 16/06/2024 12:58

Appalling. He’s living the life of Riley because he can - a tale as old as time. Why have you stood it for so long? There’s no reason for anyone healthy to be out of work these days!

Why don’t you want more for you and your family than to ‘get by’? You’re still young so don’t let this carry on for much longer.

Crikeyalmighty · 16/06/2024 12:54

Did he work in a creative industry out of interest OP?? Music/ sound recording/ graphic design/ journalism ?? I think people who have had jobs in these industries (my h works in one) mentally have trouble with the idea of doing anything mundane and often need an ultimatum if work drys up

LouOver · 16/06/2024 12:53

Leave him op, your basically be financially supporting this older man to he's infirm and then your never going to be able to retire as there's no shared pot left for you and that's after looking after him in his old age whilst you still work.

Cut your losses now, he's going to get a share of your pension ect but you have the rest of your life to start over.

beAsensible1 · 16/06/2024 12:48

NameChaneAgain · 16/06/2024 08:47

Why isn’t he doing school drop offs and pick ups? Or atleast some of them (asking you want to do some)

DS's school is near my work and I like seeing him so I don't mind this. It's more that I would like him to be doing something more productive whilst I am doing it.

I'm 36 for those asking.

THIRTY SIX ?!? Omg.

run run run away from him.

beAsensible1 · 16/06/2024 12:45

You need to put your foot down on this.

say you haven’t agreed for him to be a SAHP and as he isn’t pulling his weight on that front he need to get to work.

if his anxiousness is stopping him he need to see the GP and work with them to help manage it.

he cannot become a recluse who lives off you and doesn’t even do the bare minimum of keeping the house clean and drop offs.

Euro24 · 16/06/2024 12:40

Possibly unpopular opinion here.

Even IF a man in this position DID do ALL the household stuff and childcare so that the OP could just put her feet up and do zero drudgery I think she'd go off him as it's important that men earn money and do their best to get out and work.

Yes it's sexist and if a woman took on everything it's unlikely her dh would go off her.

It's just how it is. Unless the guy's genuinely retired of course.

So trying to get him to take on more chores and childcare seems pointless when if he doesn't work she'll want him gone anyway.

DomPom47 · 16/06/2024 12:36

Marrta · 16/06/2024 12:33

I agree with a previous comment that it's good for your child to have a stay at home parent, and you can afford it. It seems you don't realise how hard it is looking after a child instead of working

This comment is quite presumptuous and so unfair to the OP. He is not doing anything around the house and garden and parenting seems to be to plonk the child in front of a screen. His sole purpose of SAHP seems to be to just exercise.

DomPom47 · 16/06/2024 12:34

This situation is not fair on you. Especially if the house and garden and the parenting is not done properly.
He is choosing this behaviour because there’s no financial urgency due to your salary.

How do you think he will react if you were to say to him that for your own stress and anxiety levels he had to get a job even if it was a part time job by x time period or you leave him?

Everyone is different but all things considered I would not tolerate this situation if he isn’t actively trying to help himself e.g get some counselling, do some volunteering, do a course (could be online) to up-skill himself in another field….

Gettingbysomehow · 16/06/2024 12:34

I had a husband like this OP. I dumped him.
Allowing him to behave like this is basically enabling his behaviour.
After ditching my husband of 20 years who worked on and off and brought nothing to the table and he was awarded nothing to the divorce
As Id taken care of financials prior to marriage he suddenly realised he was in the shit.
He woke up and went and did estate agent training and is now working full time.
I am furious that I allowed him to be a cocklodger for so long.

Marrta · 16/06/2024 12:33

I agree with a previous comment that it's good for your child to have a stay at home parent, and you can afford it. It seems you don't realise how hard it is looking after a child instead of working

Ihadenough22 · 16/06/2024 12:31

Your only 36 and your husband is 50. He is at home all day every day and is doing as little as possible. The house is a mess, the garden is the same. He not even doing the school pick ups for your child. Meanwhile your working full time, doing the majority of the work and financially supporting you all.

I would be getting legal advice re divorcing him. See what you need to put in place so you can keep the house and as much of your pension as possible. I would then cancelling his gym membership, cancelling the internet at home, stop his bank cards and giving him no access to your money.
Tell him you're bring him to the doctor to get his anxiety sorted out and that he is then going to start applying for jobs because your no longer going to be financially supporting him.
If he is not willing to get help from the doctor or make changes I would divorce him.

I know several men who lost jobs in the past and their wives had good jobs. They minded kids, did housework and got other jobs once there kids were in school. One man drives a taxi a few nights a week to help with family finances.

I would also be thinking of your own life long term. If he is 50 it only a matter of time before he has hip or knee problems due to all the exercising. Even if he does not in 20 years time you be in your mid 50's and he be 70. You want to go places and do things when say your child is university and he will be an old man. I know a lady at the moment who is a young 62/63 and she is still working PT as her youngest child is in college. He husband is 10 years older and he just wants to stay at home and he does very little housework as well.

I can see her ending up caring for him when she gets to retirement. I know another lady as well that this happened to also and she is now in poor health. Her husband was about 10/12 years older than her.

Kelly51 · 16/06/2024 12:30

You seem very passive in allowing this man to basically use you to facilitate his laziness and lack of parenting and contribution to the household.
Is there any plus signs?
Is he incredible in bed? romantic? adores you?

RedYellowPinkGreenPurpleOrangeBlue · 16/06/2024 12:27

Dwrcegin · 16/06/2024 12:13

OP I missed that you are only 36. You are too young for this shit.

I missed this bit too! Shock OP, get out FFS! In 10 years time you will be his carer!

RedYellowPinkGreenPurpleOrangeBlue · 16/06/2024 12:26

NotSoHotMess24 · 16/06/2024 12:13

If anyone is SAH, they should facilitate the one who works.

Are there many women who don't work, don't clean and have minimal caring responsibilities? Not many. And those that do are also lazy CF. Vaglodgers, I suppose you'd call them. If the spouse was happy, all well and good, but most wouldn't be, same as for a man.

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Nah.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 16/06/2024 12:23

OP - this is NOT a MH problem. There is a big difference between anxiety, which we all have, and an anxiety disorder which can be overcome with therapy and/or medication help. If we all had to go back to work after a break we would feel anxiety but most of us would push through.

Signs this is pure selfishness dressed up as MH? The non parenting for more than half a day, the not doing what he does not want to do in the house, the staying at home without a discussion, the refusal to consider any kind of other job. Funny how his anxiety does not stop him doing what he likes?

At the very least, what he is doing at the moment is not making his anxiety better and is placing an unfair burden on you. No truly loving partner would do this. IME, people who truly have anxiety disorders are desperate to minimize the impact of this on their families, and this is often their motivation for getting help to overcome it.

Best case scenario, an ultimatum would snap him out of it. Worst case, he will continue to show you what a selfish asshole he is and you will have to leave. As for him getting custody? Make a note of all the times you had to take a half day off work because he wont parent for more than a few hours at a time.

Springwatch123 · 16/06/2024 12:22

Lentilweaver · 16/06/2024 11:47

I dont know of any SAHMs who can't take care of their DC for a whole day or exercise 5 hrs a day @SpringerFall. Surely that is the definition of a SAHP: that you can take care of your DC without headphones? Some of us even managed to take care of two DC without getting anxious.

So true. And hers face it, he’s not actually taking care of dc.

justenterausername · 16/06/2024 12:15

HFJ · 16/06/2024 11:27

I see this as a kind of ecosystem where species specialise and it gets out of hand. One set likes caring (and does more and more caring) and one set likes being cared for (and happily acts like a child). In the absence of societal, cultural and legal influences, this specialisation becomes the norm. Hell, governments take advantage of it - look at all the middle aged women run ragged doting on elderly relatives who ‘need’ to stay at home and who don’t ‘need’ outside help. It doesn’t help that for tiktok and insta trends, young women doting on their boyfriends’ every whim seems to be ‘in’. I feel like women’s lib has gone backwards.

Interesting.

It certainly has for some people.

NotSoHotMess24 · 16/06/2024 12:13

SpringerFall · 16/06/2024 06:07

Yes he should be doing more to help but women manage to be long term not working and being stay at home mums to young children or teenagers or uni student or even when they leave home

So why is it different for a man?

If anyone is SAH, they should facilitate the one who works.

Are there many women who don't work, don't clean and have minimal caring responsibilities? Not many. And those that do are also lazy CF. Vaglodgers, I suppose you'd call them. If the spouse was happy, all well and good, but most wouldn't be, same as for a man.

Dwrcegin · 16/06/2024 12:13

OP I missed that you are only 36. You are too young for this shit.

DoYouSmokePaul · 16/06/2024 12:04

My DH earns more than enough for us to keep up our lifestyle. However, I would hate to sit around doing nothing all day (no kids) for various reasons - my own mental wellbeing, and causing resentment if I spend every day doing what I want while DH has to work!

However I do suffer from awful work anxiety (despite loving my job), and I vomit every morning on a day I’m working. I would rather not go through that 5 days a week, so I work 3 days but also take on the lion’s share of household stuff like meal planning, shopping, cooking, gardening, DIY etc. It works for us but it has been a discussion every step of the way. And I still feel guilty sometimes!

Your DH needs to get part time work and to step up his childcare.

Itiswhysofew · 16/06/2024 11:54

Did you even have the option to be the SAHP? Sounds like he just took it, without any consideration of you, the mother.

He's seriously taking advantage of you. If he were a participative SAHP, fair enough, but he's self-indulgent and neglectful of his duties.

Comedycook · 16/06/2024 11:53

Sorry but he sounds like an utter waste of space. Why on earth are you doing the school run? If he's going to be a sahp I'd expect the house to be immaculate, the food cooked, cleaning done, shopping done and all schools runs done by him. But he's not a sahp is he? He just doesn't work. What a self indulgently prick he sounds. As for running marathons...well I suppose he needs something to boost his self esteem seeing as he's such a dreadful partner