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To wonder how you get by on SSP?

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CanItReallyBeSo · 15/06/2024 14:59

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Mate of mine has chopped off the end of several fingers at work and been off for three weeks now. Going to be a few more as needs an op and his job is quite physical (construction).

He told me today he's only getting SSP which would go on for up to three months, although he shouldn't be off that long. Looking online it's only £88 a week and taxable. His monthly mortgage is £1200.

How do people with a normal lifestyle get by in the fallout to an industrial accident? Seems only option is using savings or accruing debt. Even UC isn't much extra I'm assuming.

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Hinkuy · 15/06/2024 21:36

Houseofdragonsisback · 15/06/2024 16:45

@Hinkuy insurances with existing medical conditions are expensive even through a broker.

They're not, there are policies starting from £9 including CIC and over 50s life cover if you just need funeral cover etc which start from small amounts too.

Hinkuy · 15/06/2024 21:34

Houseofdragonsisback · 15/06/2024 16:07

In their early 20s. Most 18 yr olds aren’t think of income protection or critical illness, many aren’t even working!

Exactly which is why i plan to do it for my kids when they turn 18 so it's in place. You don't need to be working for CIC.

Hinkuy · 15/06/2024 21:33

Noonecares245 · 15/06/2024 21:20

Buildings insurance mandatory? Since when?

Since forever if you have a mortgage.

Noonecares245 · 15/06/2024 21:20

Hinkuy · 15/06/2024 19:59

Good for you. Buildings insurance is also mandatory, I do hope you're well set up if you do become ill or are unable to work.

Buildings insurance mandatory? Since when?

TeenLifeMum · 15/06/2024 20:10

We get sick pay at work then when that runs out we have insurance to cover the mortgage.

Friends who are builders in self employed jobs all have insurance too. I learned this when my friend’s husband broke his leg last year. In a discussion with other builders it seemed fairly standard.

None of us are crazy rich.

Abitorangelooking · 15/06/2024 20:06

EatCrow · 15/06/2024 19:27

Would it work that way though? If his bosses’ Company is insured wouldn’t it be straightforward?

I know someone claiming against their employer it’s currently pretty straightforward. Their solicitor talks to insurance company solicitor. They do not discuss it with work directly.

Abitorangelooking · 15/06/2024 20:03

You claim what you can. I found you get quite a lot of tax back as you’ll have overpaid. Speak to a solicitor, employers have liability insurance for a reason. Normally time off work, physio costs can be included in a c lol so if employer liable.

Hinkuy · 15/06/2024 19:59

Noonecares245 · 15/06/2024 19:35

The only insurance I have is car insurance - and that's only because I'm legally obliged to, otherwise I wouldn't bother with it

Good for you. Buildings insurance is also mandatory, I do hope you're well set up if you do become ill or are unable to work.

Noonecares245 · 15/06/2024 19:35

Hinkuy · 15/06/2024 15:44

That's good but everyone should. It should be mandatory as it used to be to have a mortgage you had to have life cover - these days its all optional. It's cheapest when you're young so I always recommend everyone takes our something as young (and illness free) as they can.

The only insurance I have is car insurance - and that's only because I'm legally obliged to, otherwise I wouldn't bother with it

EatCrow · 15/06/2024 19:27

CanItReallyBeSo · 15/06/2024 15:22

I kind of thought that. But also understand it'd be weird taking a good mate to court.

Would it work that way though? If his bosses’ Company is insured wouldn’t it be straightforward?

MrsDoubtfire123 · 15/06/2024 19:18

For some people they aren’t able to have income protection or life and critical illness because of pre existing conditions- so insurers do not offer them cover at all. They are excluded from being able to protect themselves- which is wrong ! But true. So not everyone has the option to insure themselves.

PickledPurplePickle · 15/06/2024 18:32

CanItReallyBeSo · 15/06/2024 15:22

I kind of thought that. But also understand it'd be weird taking a good mate to court.

Doesn’t need to take them to court - just get the boss to contact the insurance company

SlightlygrumpyBettyswaitress · 15/06/2024 17:47

You don't. It's terrible. If you are young and fit you can buy appropriate insurance. If you are my age, late 50s all you can do is save and hope nothing terrible happens.

Snugglemonkey · 15/06/2024 17:37

CanItReallyBeSo · 15/06/2024 15:22

I kind of thought that. But also understand it'd be weird taking a good mate to court.

I would take my souse to court in these circumstances and expect them to do the same.

Sparklybutold · 15/06/2024 16:53

I used to work in a sector where SSP was the norm. It was also in healthcare. Unsurprisingly people couldn't afford to be sick. So they would come into work and make other people sick which would then cause staffing issues. SSP is woefully inadequate but nothing will be done to change it. Us riff raff should have just saved and stop eating so much avocado on sourdough bread!

Houseofdragonsisback · 15/06/2024 16:45

@Hinkuy insurances with existing medical conditions are expensive even through a broker.

Hinkuy · 15/06/2024 16:32

IDontHateRainbows · 15/06/2024 16:20

Yeah, those will be prohibitively expensive

So it's still legal discrimination

They're not. As I said you need a broker.

OnTheBoardwalk · 15/06/2024 16:27

He really does need to get advice and make a claim against his mates insurance. This is a real life changing injury

I used to have millions of pounds worth of insurance liability when working for myself and I was just sat in an office. His mate should have plenty as well

MamaDollyorJesus · 15/06/2024 16:27

It's £116.40 a week for SSP & you get it for 28 weeks - they can claim UC while receiving it & request an advance payment.

But definitely get them to check out their options as it's a workplace injury they may be entitled to some sort of compensation.

JLou08 · 15/06/2024 16:25

You don't survive really. This is why so many disabled people aren't in work. Understandably they need time of sick sometimes but the stress of living on SSP is too much. It's easier to be on benefits and have a regular income to cover the basics, even though a lot want to work.

IDontHateRainbows · 15/06/2024 16:20

Hinkuy · 15/06/2024 16:03

Everyone has access to it - there are policies that are non medically underwritten for those with serious conditions that are uninsurable. Sounds like you need a good broker.

Yeah, those will be prohibitively expensive

So it's still legal discrimination

Miley1967 · 15/06/2024 16:17

He can claim Universal credit as long as he has savings less than 16k. However there is no help with a mortgage on UC. Does he have any mortgage protection insurance or anything like that ?

CassandraWebb · 15/06/2024 16:10

CanItReallyBeSo · 15/06/2024 15:22

I kind of thought that. But also understand it'd be weird taking a good mate to court.

If the mate (or rather their insurer) agrees to pay then it will never go near a court

CassandraWebb · 15/06/2024 16:09

IDontHateRainbows · 15/06/2024 15:57

Why so?

Surely the mate can claim on his business insurance without any need to go to court.

If he's a true friend anyway

Exactly

Houseofdragonsisback · 15/06/2024 16:08

Good for you but I would think it’s a small % of parents who take out insurance policies for their 18 yr olds.