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To resign over a wedding?

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dancingrainbows · 15/06/2024 06:32

It seems a bit crazy, but I work as a teacher.

A close relative has decided to get married on a Monday and I work Mondays. My school does not allow time off (even unpaid) for events like this at all, it just isn’t permitted.

My options are

  1. Lie - my worry with this is that if I am ‘caught’ the repercussions are serious.
  2. Resign. If I handed my notice in now I could leave at Christmas.

i don’t actually think I’d have a problem getting a new teaching job but I am currently part time and don’t want to lose this - it’s rare PT posts are advertised - and also getting settled in again somewhere is a pain. It’s a WWYD really. By the way I know not all schools are as inflexible as my current one but it really is.

OP posts:
SuziQuinto · 18/06/2024 17:02

GrammarTeacher · 18/06/2024 16:54

And yet it keeps being suggested by posters

True. I think if people don't work in schools it's difficult to understand the issues involved.

GrammarTeacher · 18/06/2024 16:54

SuziQuinto · 18/06/2024 15:19

I know. It's been said a few times already.

And yet it keeps being suggested by posters

SuziQuinto · 18/06/2024 15:19

GrammarTeacher · 18/06/2024 10:21

You can't just swap a day in secondary. Timetabling doesn't work like that

I know. It's been said a few times already.

GrammarTeacher · 18/06/2024 10:21

Kayakerpaddleboarder · 18/06/2024 09:25

See if a colleague will swap the day before you act all irrational and resign over a wedding. This is your career you are prepared to forsake for one day. If the person arranging the wedding knows you well, they will also know that your employer isn't given to giving you days off lightly. Yet, they still arranged it for a day you work. Don't worry about what other people say, it's not their job at risk. Anyone close to you would understand the difficulties you have arranging time off. If they don't, they're not worth the sacrifice of resigning. That goes for close family too.

You can't just swap a day in secondary. Timetabling doesn't work like that

Kayakerpaddleboarder · 18/06/2024 09:25

See if a colleague will swap the day before you act all irrational and resign over a wedding. This is your career you are prepared to forsake for one day. If the person arranging the wedding knows you well, they will also know that your employer isn't given to giving you days off lightly. Yet, they still arranged it for a day you work. Don't worry about what other people say, it's not their job at risk. Anyone close to you would understand the difficulties you have arranging time off. If they don't, they're not worth the sacrifice of resigning. That goes for close family too.

similarminimer · 18/06/2024 08:56

Suggest that to help rhem out you are happy to resign and reapply for your job wkth a prebooked day's leave

PepsiMaxPerfect · 17/06/2024 23:18

fourseatsandasteeringwheel · 17/06/2024 21:13

As someone who very recently left the profession with no job to go to (luckily now in alternative employment), my personal opinion is that the wedding itself is not at all the problem.

You have clearly been feeling put off the school for a while to even consider this idea. No one considers making themselves jobless if they are not at the end of their tolerance for what they have to deal with.

As you have said yourself, you do not actually need to make a decision until October. Spend the next few months investigating your other options.

Ultimately, having a job that is so inflexible is actually what your issue is. Even if you resolve the wedding issue by not going, there will always be the next problem this lack of flexibility will present.

the wedding itself is not at all the problem

> The wedding is just an excuse.

the problem actually is

fourseatsandasteeringwheel · 17/06/2024 21:13

As someone who very recently left the profession with no job to go to (luckily now in alternative employment), my personal opinion is that the wedding itself is not at all the problem.

You have clearly been feeling put off the school for a while to even consider this idea. No one considers making themselves jobless if they are not at the end of their tolerance for what they have to deal with.

As you have said yourself, you do not actually need to make a decision until October. Spend the next few months investigating your other options.

Ultimately, having a job that is so inflexible is actually what your issue is. Even if you resolve the wedding issue by not going, there will always be the next problem this lack of flexibility will present.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 17/06/2024 17:22

dancingrainbows · 17/06/2024 17:02

Teach, then Confused

They might not be qualified to!

dancingrainbows · 17/06/2024 17:02

Teach, then Confused

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wibblywobblywoo · 17/06/2024 17:02

dancingrainbows · 15/06/2024 06:57

What a lot of people do seem to be struggling with is that I actually want to go 😂

What a lot of people are struggling even more with is that these are the terms of your job...... 😂 I mean, I don't even get 6 weeks off through a whole year let alone have 6 weeks off in the Summer (plus the rest) like you do, but that's my job.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 17/06/2024 16:39

urbanbuddha · 15/06/2024 06:38

Don’t be daft. You knew the conditions of service when you accepted the job. Just explain to your relative that you’re terribly sorry and you’ll join them in the evening. Ask them to dinner at your house when they’re back from their honeymoon and they can show you the photos.

This! This is the only possible answer. Everything else is ridiculously irresponsible.

anon4net · 17/06/2024 16:37

It's a wedding. Nice to be there, absolutely. Would I lose a job over it or quit? Absolutely not.

A friend is in a similar position and is going after work - driving 3 hours - and will make it for the party.

You don't give up a job for a wedding.

semicircle · 17/06/2024 16:29

I’ve been a part time teacher for many years and have always found that if I do something to help the school e.g. change my day to accommodate training or take children on a trip/ activity that’s not on my normal day and for which they may be struggling to find enough cover they are happy to offer it back in time off in lieu. I often present it to management as a way of saving money and facilitating something that may not otherwise go ahead. I’ve even done extra time so that they appreciate my efforts and are happy to accommodate any requests I make. Saving them money always ticks a few boxes.

strawberryshortcakescat · 17/06/2024 16:11

It would be ridiculous to resign, for a wedding.
It's one day. The bride and groom don't really care if they have booked it for a Monday. Most people would probably need to use two days leave to attend.

You can ask to swap working days. Apart from that there's nothing you can do.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is clueless.
It's not like teachers don't get enough holidays already!
(I'm a teacher)

Just been to a wedding on a Sunday and didn't drink because I felt it inappropriate to ask for time off/ use PPA. (Close family member)
And wouldn't want to turn up to work stinking of booze and hungover.

I do think it's a bit rubbish of your school though if it is a sister/ brother / parent.

Enoughwiththisshit · 17/06/2024 15:10

Gymmum82 · 15/06/2024 06:48

I would make it the HT problem. I’d go to them and say you’re either going to call in sick or resign unless they allow the day off and which would they prefer? If they choose your resignation there’s your answer, you are expendable to them and that’s not what you want in a job.

It does seem insanity quitting over a wedding however I couldn’t work in a job with such little regard for their staff

Agree with every word of this ☝️

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 17/06/2024 14:33

Mirabai · 17/06/2024 12:43

No it was arranged for a Monday because venue hire etc is much cheaper on weekdays and they wanted a wedding they couldn’t afford.

Tuesdays are cheap too!

Mirabai · 17/06/2024 12:43

thenovice · 17/06/2024 10:58

Is it possible that the wedding was arranged for a Monday so that fewer people would be able to come, thus saving the couple a lot of money?

No it was arranged for a Monday because venue hire etc is much cheaper on weekdays and they wanted a wedding they couldn’t afford.

SleightlyHome · 17/06/2024 12:30

If you are above M4 (including UPS) then you may find the jobs market very limited if looking for another.

thenovice · 17/06/2024 10:58

Is it possible that the wedding was arranged for a Monday so that fewer people would be able to come, thus saving the couple a lot of money?

thenovice · 17/06/2024 10:53

Do not resign. It's crazy. If someone did that for me it would ruin my wedding. I would feel so bad.

Alittlewordinyourear · 17/06/2024 08:06

I would only resign if I was unhappy in my job and looking to move anyway. To be honest, having your wedding on a Monday is a bit rubbish and you should expect people not able to attend. I think your family should understand that’s it’s out of your control, could you attend the evening part?

Lollybaz · 17/06/2024 07:01

Sounds like you must work at the same school as my SIL! His head teacher is a bitch too!

GrammarTeacher · 17/06/2024 06:03

Are you sure you didn't misunderstand the hospital appointment thing. We had an email ages ago asking to arrange appointments in holidays etc where possible. But obviously it's frequently not possible. And that's ok.
Unless I've missed it you haven't said how close this relative is? Why doesn't your husband just go on his own?

FindingNeverland28 · 17/06/2024 04:21

Unfortunately, the lack of flexibility is one of the drawbacks in teaching.
Why don’t you run the idea of taking the day unpaid by your head, but give them a different date just to see what they say? You could always say hubby got the date wrong if it’s agreed. That way, if they say no then you won’t be pulling a sickie on the actual wedding day.
I noticed on one of your posts you said that you’re not even allowed time off for hospitality appointments unless it’s for an antenatal appointment? I’d be questioning this with your union. It sounds like your head is telling you all a load of BS. My last head was a complete dragon and even she couldn’t prevent anyone from going to the doctors/dentist. She’d make it clear how inconvenient it was, but there was nothing she could do about it.
If you do decide to resign and don’t get a job straight away, may I suggest handing your CV with a business card attached into your local schools for supply. I did this when I first qualified, as well as registering with an agency and 99% of the supply I did was directly with the school. You’ll be paid by your LA at your actual hourly rate.