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To resign over a wedding?

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dancingrainbows · 15/06/2024 06:32

It seems a bit crazy, but I work as a teacher.

A close relative has decided to get married on a Monday and I work Mondays. My school does not allow time off (even unpaid) for events like this at all, it just isn’t permitted.

My options are

  1. Lie - my worry with this is that if I am ‘caught’ the repercussions are serious.
  2. Resign. If I handed my notice in now I could leave at Christmas.

i don’t actually think I’d have a problem getting a new teaching job but I am currently part time and don’t want to lose this - it’s rare PT posts are advertised - and also getting settled in again somewhere is a pain. It’s a WWYD really. By the way I know not all schools are as inflexible as my current one but it really is.

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SlightlygrumpyBettyswaitress · 15/06/2024 07:16

I'd lie.
I'd call in sick or make up an emergency.
If an employer creates a situation where its so difficult to ask for a day off as an exception, that's what you get.

Soddingcat · 15/06/2024 07:15

No way would I risk a job for someone who chooses a date when they know I can’t get a day off
And if that person would happily sit by while you lose a job to please them , then that tells you all you need to know
unbelievable. In principle I’d happily decline .

I would also enjoy asking them if they would prefer you to lose your job , their answers will be telling

DailyEnergyCrisis · 15/06/2024 07:15

I would make sure colleagues knew the wedding is coming up but say it’s on the Saturday prior to the Monday in case you end up in wedding pics on Facebook or anything.
Then phone in sick for the Monday and Tuesday (two days are always more convincing 😆).

ZenNudist · 15/06/2024 07:14

AnotherEmma · 15/06/2024 06:37

Your relative clearly doesn't care much whether or not you attend, if they've chosen to get married on a Monday.

i certainly wouldn't quit my job to attend someone's wedding! That's ridiculous. And I love weddings.

This. Your relative doesn't care about you.

My mum and DH's best friend are teachers and we got married abroad in the school holidays, pushing up the cost for everyone, because we wanted them to be able to come.

Don't resign.

rwalker · 15/06/2024 07:14

Just go to manager with notice written hand it to them
say upto the them what would they prefer you leave or they give u day off

SuziQuinto · 15/06/2024 07:12

dancingrainbows · 15/06/2024 07:11

We aren’t allowed hospital appointments @SuziQuinto . Only when pregnant as obviously they have to but they bitterly resent it.

That's bad. I thought my place was tight, but they do allow that.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 15/06/2024 07:11

DailyMailHater · 15/06/2024 06:35

Would you genuinely quit your job over it? Or risk losing it by lying?

I think if people decide to get married on a week day then they have to accept people won’t be able to attend.

Yep, I’d very happily not go.

Left · 15/06/2024 07:11

As you’re part time, are you in a job share with another staff member, and could you arrange to swap a day with them?

UnpackingBooksFromBoxes · 15/06/2024 07:11

Don’t call in sick, we had someone do that, went to a wedding reception, got found out and lost their job.

If you can get someone to swap days and go to the head with a plan which would answer any objections rather than “we’re swapping days” they’re more likely to agree.

dancingrainbows · 15/06/2024 07:11

We aren’t allowed hospital appointments @SuziQuinto . Only when pregnant as obviously they have to but they bitterly resent it.

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Applesandpears23 · 15/06/2024 07:10

Once you decide to quit you have nothing to lose by telling school you want the day off so badly you are prepared to quit to achieve it. See what they say.

dancingrainbows · 15/06/2024 07:10

@Exasperateddonut That would have more holes than a rabbit warren - which school, why no reference requests, a quick phone call would check that out!

Although you have reminded me that when I was searching for this job I had an interview the week before where I soon realised the school wasn’t for me and very politely withdrew. When I went back the next day and told the principal I’d withdrawn he was very huffy about the fact he’d paid for a days supply. I wished I’d just fibbed and said I hadn’t got it!

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heretodestroyyou · 15/06/2024 07:10

dancingrainbows · 15/06/2024 06:57

What a lot of people do seem to be struggling with is that I actually want to go 😂

I get it, I love weddings. There's a handful of people in my life that I would feel gutted if I missed their wedding.

I do think you need to really weigh up how important it is to go and what the impact is.

Do a pro/con list about your job, not specifically including the wedding but I guess the inflexibility is a con.

If it's a no to quitting and you can't go to the wedding then I'd have a stock answer prepared for everyone that to go you would have to leave your job, that is the only option and you're sorry but you can't do that.

They might still be disappointed but hopefully will get it a little bit.

SuziQuinto · 15/06/2024 07:09

Step5678 · 15/06/2024 07:07

I can understand the resentment, especially working for an employer so inflexible. But in that case, go look for another job, you don't need an excuse! You never know, if you find another job quickly you could then resign and still attend the wedding.

Out of Interest, would the school be so inflexible if there was a funeral to attend? Or a planned hospital appointment? Weddings come with so much notice, it's very annoying for them to be so rigid. I would imagine this is a source of low morale among the staff and should be raised

A hospital appointment is essential, that is allowed.
Funeral of a close family member is also allowed.

determinedtomakethiswork · 15/06/2024 07:09

The only time I would do this is for my own child but I would hope they would check the date was okay with me before choosing it.

Exasperateddonut · 15/06/2024 07:09

Actually reading this. Fuck it. Find a new job. This is not a way to live life.

Exasperateddonut · 15/06/2024 07:08

if you were looking to move on you’d need to be interviewed correct? Have an interview that day. It’d be easy enough to organise somewhere some distance away about 11.30 am…… or even 12 ish. Two birds. One stone. (Obvs not actually go for an interview….)

dancingrainbows · 15/06/2024 07:08

Ah @TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre but that’s a bit of devils advocate isn’t it? If everyone had said ‘YANBU - go!’ I’d be saying ‘ooh but hang on!’

@SuziQuinto - our head wouldn’t agree to that either. I wasn’t even permitted to come in an hour late one morning when I had PPA first thing so wouldn’t have made a blind bit of difference Confused it’s very frustrating.

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SuziQuinto · 15/06/2024 07:08

They don't even allow that, @EmberAsh outside the essentials or emergencies.
The only way people manage to do it is by getting signed off sick.
My colleague lost both her parents within a fortnight, the only way to cope was for the Dr to sign her off sick.

pinkgin79 · 15/06/2024 07:08

I was going to suggest parental leave. Or work related stress for a week or two. Not great but better than resigning.

Step5678 · 15/06/2024 07:07

dancingrainbows · 15/06/2024 07:00

I know @Step5678 . I think that’s why I am so torn really. Maybe on some level I do want to resign and this is my ‘excuse’? I don’t know. I think the problem is I feel resentment and when that kicks in it’s hard to feel enthusiasm and enjoyment in your job, it becomes tolerating it.

I can understand the resentment, especially working for an employer so inflexible. But in that case, go look for another job, you don't need an excuse! You never know, if you find another job quickly you could then resign and still attend the wedding.

Out of Interest, would the school be so inflexible if there was a funeral to attend? Or a planned hospital appointment? Weddings come with so much notice, it's very annoying for them to be so rigid. I would imagine this is a source of low morale among the staff and should be raised

rubyroola · 15/06/2024 07:07

Zonder · 15/06/2024 06:44

I'm struggling to understand how anyone can't understand that some schools would step up in this situation.

Over 30 years of teaching here. I've seen people (including myself) allowed a day off for weddings, funerals and of course job interviews. There should be contingency plans for sickness which can be adapted in certain other situations.

So?

The generally understood position is that teachers can’t just take a Monday off in term time for someone’s wedding. Most people would know that. Teachers get enough time off in the school holidays.

EmberAsh · 15/06/2024 07:06

If you can afford to take more than just the Monday off, look into applying for unpaid parental leave. I don't know much about it but I think you have to take 1 week minimum, give a month's notice and it's difficult for employers to decline because it's a government standard. The leave is designed to spend time with your children so you could state there is a family wedding. They don't need to know the wedding is only one day. It could be abroad for a week for all they know.

Nibblepies · 15/06/2024 07:05

In the current market (at least in my country), there is a huge teacher shortage. They need you far more than you need them.

If you would not be in financial distress to miss your income for a month or two, I would let them know that you have family commitments on xyz date and are requesting leave without pay. If they decline this, I would resign.

I am being openly headhunted by two other local schools at the moment. I feel loyal to my classes and colleagues but I am very conscious that I have other options if I no longer feel supported or valued at my current school.

SuziQuinto · 15/06/2024 07:03

Where I teach is similarly inflexible. The only way to cover it would be to ask colleagues to step up, this is what we do. A woman wanted to go to a weekday wedding, so five of us with free lessons covered the day. Then she repaid us by covering a lesson of ours over the term.
We organise this internally, with the agreement of the Head. That way people can go to a funeral or their child's graduation etc.