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Do all MNs wfh or in an office?

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Jeannie88 · 15/06/2024 00:33

Just an observation, so many posts seem to be from Mums who wfh or 'have to go into an office'.

Any others out there who do the whole getting up early, depend on breakfast clubs/wraparound care? So, getting dressed, commuting to work, doing the job all day face to face with the public, travelling back, pick up DC and catch up on chores?

Just wondering if anyone else actually goes out out to work anymore. I guess some of us do and find the posts about choosing to slack and bewilderment of a hard day of online meetings a bit strange?

I've changed career after a very long time in education and oh boy, having to be present in teams meetings while having my washing on etc is sooooo much easier! Xx

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Yusd · 16/06/2024 13:55

RampantIvy · 16/06/2024 13:09

Don't you feel isolated?

no, I’ve always been happy wfh and had good relationships with people I work with despite not meeting in person.

socks1107 · 16/06/2024 13:25

Ha ha no! I work in every area of a London hospital. Every little room and ward or department. On my feet all day auditing and spend an hour or writing reports at the end of the day.
I was office based but love being out and about

FTPM1980 · 16/06/2024 13:23

Jeannie88 · 15/06/2024 21:23

Office work has its own intensities, but really you are sat on a chair and working on a computer. You are able to go to the toilet when you want, make a coffee, go out for lunch, no responsibility of looking after others.

This can't be compared to frontline jobs, on the go all the time, desperate for a wee but have to hold it in, then admin after work hours. Xx

I go to work in an office
I spend around half my time at my desk, and half in meetings or doing other things.
I can theoretically go to the toilet when I want....but in reality not during meetings.
I sometimes don't have time to eat.
I have a team of people to look after.....and far more policies on that than schools do. Plus it's all down to me, not shared with multiple other managers or SEND teams or SLT
Technically I get half an hour for lunch but this is not protected and often have back to back meetings from 10am to 3pm with no lunch break.
I often work 8.30-6 or later doing admin on weekends and holidays.

Your idea of "office work" appears to be "typist from the 1950s"

fieldsofbutterflies · 16/06/2024 13:17

I would find little pleasure in sitting in my house in my pjs working remotely.

Why would you do that unless you wanted to, though?

There are lots of different ways to work remotely or from home, none of which have to involve sitting on your own in your PJ's all day.

FTPM1980 · 16/06/2024 13:14

How is going to an office NOT going out to work? People who work in offices use wrap around childcare and have commutes

Soboredofdiettalk · 16/06/2024 13:11

I work in a school office, so do both things iyswim! I would love to WFH but really enjoy the school holidays (I'm not a teacher, so I actually get the holidays off. Pay is dreadful though)

I'm hoping to try and find something where I can wfh full time when my dcs are a bit older.

RampantIvy · 16/06/2024 13:09

Yusd · 16/06/2024 11:59

I’ve wfh since my first proper full time job post school, so 2011ish.

Don't you feel isolated?

Yusd · 16/06/2024 11:59

I’ve wfh since my first proper full time job post school, so 2011ish.

Pottedpalm · 16/06/2024 08:27

vodkaredbullgirl · 15/06/2024 01:17

Couldn't think of anything worse than WFH 😃

Nor me! I do wonder whether people with young families who are finding it so convenient working from home will feel different when kids are grown and off to work/uni. One of the best parts of work
for me was interaction with colleagues. I also like a change of scene and dressing smartly for work. I would find little pleasure in sitting in my house in my pjs working remotely.

Welshwabbit · 16/06/2024 07:55

I'm a barrister so I wfh or from the office when I am preparing or doing paperwork, but obviously have to be in court when I'm doing a trial. Currently doing 3 weeks in trial in another city, too far to commute. Luckily my husband can wfh most of the time and our children are a bit older now but he used to go away for his job too (less often) so I booked those weeks out of my diary for trials. The advantages of self-employment! But once a trial is in my diary I am committed to it, no flexibility.

I also have a trainee barrister with me for at least 3 months per year and during those months I am either in the office or in court full time, pretty much.

My eldest now gets to school on his own but the youngest's nursery and primary school were chosen partly because either of us can drop off and pick up on the way to/back from the station to make everything workable.

Oganesson118 · 16/06/2024 07:45

@RampantIvy oops no sorry that was a typo, 2 in office, 3 at home!

RampantIvy · 16/06/2024 07:44

You do a 6 day week @Oganesson118 ?

Oganesson118 · 16/06/2024 07:39

I work from home 3 days a week and go into the office 3 days a week on average.

We don’t have to go in over the summer holidays, or we can work from a different office (we have a few locations)

RampantIvy · 16/06/2024 07:38

And if you can achieve hours of housework and look after a toddler whilst wfh IMO there are either some performance issues/ some spare capacity or people are very junior.

I agree. You can tell that someone is away from their desk because the colour on Teams changes. The most I will do while working from home is load/unload the washing machine.

ExitChasedByAPanda · 16/06/2024 07:35

Jeannie88 · 15/06/2024 20:48

I totally agree, so more flexible. My post is a response to OPs who seem a bit goady about how they can just tap a key to prove they're working, getting chores done, manage to look after toddlers concurrently, boast about being able to go out for a long lunch, watch and scroll during a meeting etc. The luxuries of not wfh, fair enough, but no understanding that if we all (hospital, schools, firefighters, police, shops) do this society would grind to a halt. Xx

I read an article on LinkedIn about remote workers getting fired for pretending to work.

Wells Fargo fires ‘faking’ workers | LinkedIn

The Wells Fargo workers were in its wealth management unit, which the bank has been trying to rebuild after a 2016 scandal around the opening of millions of unauthorised accounts.

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/news/wells-fargo-fires-faking-workers-6001921

Pushkinia · 16/06/2024 07:28

I’m in education and work in 9 schools in total, often out of the house by 7.45am, get home between 6 and 7.15 pm.

I worked from home doing online lessons during the lockdowns and, whilst I loved the lack of a commute, I absolutely hated the teaching! Interacting with children through a computer is so much harder than face to face. I moan about the long hours but I’m actually so much happier teaching in schools.

Doing the washing at 6am and the general housework at 8pm has become something of a routine now!

Heronwatcher · 16/06/2024 07:26

It’s not a competition!

Plus this binary “wfh easy” “office hard” is a load of rubbish! I have a very demanding job which is always demanding wherever I do it! Equally I have the odd down day or afternoon. But there have been many days wfh where l have literally not left my desk between 8am and 8pm apart from to go to the loo (and that was by putting myself on mute and hoping to god that no one asked me a question), and occasional days in the office where I’ve been for lunch with colleagues for 2 hours and buggered about a bit in the afternoon so not achieved that much.

For me the only consistent benefit of wfh is the fact I don’t have to travel, it’s absolutely not an easy day. And if you can achieve hours of housework and look after a toddler whilst wfh IMO there are either some performance issues/ some spare capacity or people are very junior.

Didimum · 16/06/2024 07:25

I’m in office 3 days a week and wfh 2 days. Yes, get up early, commute and need wrap around care.

CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 16/06/2024 07:24

I wfh as they decided to shut our office after Covid when they realised we’d all wfh fine. I miss seeing colleagues face to face but it is very convenient. I still go out and see people as part of my job.

We live next door to school to do drop off by 8.50 latest and are at our desks within about 3 minutes of that!

DD goes to after school club until 5.30 or 6 every day.

DH wfh about 2 or 3 days p/w.

TravellingSpoon · 16/06/2024 07:24

I work in a day service for adults with dementia and have done for several years. I used to also have a bank job in a secure MH hospital. I couldn't imagine not working with people.

My employer (LA) is closing our centre because of funding cuts and restructuring, so I am being redeployed and Friday is my last day. I am devastated, especially for all of our customers.

Everygrain · 16/06/2024 07:22

I'm retired now but worked in a laboratory, it was half practical work and half office work, it was fairly free and easy, flexitime and about a mile from home. I wouldn't have liked to do office work all day, whether it was at home or not, staring at a screen all day.

RampantIvy · 16/06/2024 07:21

I WFH three days a week and go to the office one day a week (I'm part time).

Londonrach1 · 16/06/2024 07:18

No I work in the community

rockingbird · 16/06/2024 07:16

WFH long before Covid. Before kids I was in the thick of it working long frigging hours in the corporate world. I feel I earned my stripes! I took a step back when child no.1 arrived.. relocated out of London and went PT remotely - offered to me (I was reluctant at the time) 14 years on I've doubled my hours left my H and have a much bigger role in the same company and I'm completely remote/flexible. Doesn't mean I don't work, I do.. and it has its pressures. I also do all the childcare! I was very lucky to have held onto my job in the early years as that's now holding up me and my children. 💪

TorroFerney · 16/06/2024 07:16

It’s not easier if all the meetings you are in you are chairing though, or you play a key part. I find it’s harder as you are looking at your screen so see emails and other messages popping up which I know you can mute but don’t always remember. You don’t get the natural pauses so people speak over each other and then you get distracted by wondering why your mother is in the meeting and realising she’s not, it’s just your haggard visage.