Public funding of the royal family should be optional

Sounds like you desire an uprising. Good luck with that.

😂😂😂The image is stuck. Jostling outside a bhf shop while arguing quietly in their posh a cents. A few fainting each time a non aristocrat walks out of that shop. Their despair at the possibility that that pleb could buy one of their wares

Once again, you are very interested in discussing exactly much money these incredibly wealthy people have whilst ignoring the point I was making.
King Charles alone currently has a net worth (that is publicly known about) of £610 million.

I hope you realise that, just because the word billionaire cannot be verifiably applied to one single member of this family due to missing information about their true financial records, it does not negate the immorality of their actions.

Agree with everything you say, but opting out of paying for the RF is a logistical impossibility.
We can't pick and choose.

I can't stand the Royal Family, they have opted out of paying certain taxes so I wish I could opt out of paying anything towards them.

There was no inheritance tax paid on the Queens estate because she changed the law with the help of Tony Blair before she died. Worked nicely for him because he then got a Knighthood.

I don't understand why people fawn over them. I find it really strange. They is nothing special about them other than they happen to be born into a massively wealthy family.

King Charles isn't particularly nice and he's certainly not particularly intelligent.

Why can’t you opt out of funding the royal family?

Same reason you can’t opt out of funding the military, or prisons, or anything else. It would be impossible to administer and too many people would choose not to pay for things they dislike or don’t care about.

I remember some people withholding a percentage of their tax as a protest against military intervention in other countries. (1970s or 80s? Or Iraq? I forget the details.) I think they were prosecuted same as people who evaded tax for non-principled reasons.

Defintely should be optional OP. There'll be a queue of p'd off royals, carrying armfuls of tiaras, outside the pawn shops of Gloucestershire. I'd pay to see it.

@Crispsandcola Forbes includes the crown jewels and Buckingham palace in their estates, and they don't own either of them.

I happened to know that the royal family's net worth is £22 billion according to Forbes. I also know verifiable factual data about the other things in my comment so I guess I am that someone.

No one would opt in

"corporation tax and inheritance tax "

they will have the services with the best accountancy firms and at a guess pay very little tax's.

Why just the RF?

Why can't we opt out of any public spending we think is a complete waste of money, and I can think of plenty of things I don't want to pay for.

Great idea!

Rather than opt out how about opt in. Let's see how many people come forward then.

The monarchy make their money from land, a lot of which that they took by force.

They need to start paying corporation tax and inheritance tax and for their own security, including for those palaces and the cost for of hiring the army for their pony parades.

I think you can tell that I am not a fan.

So would I.

personally before such a vote was made possible, then id want everyone to have a full understanding of the accounts, etc that the royals achieve and contribute to the uk, in place of the public being educated enough in the matter then id prefer historians and suitable academics that have better knowledge than the general public, especially considering what happened when giving the public the vote for brexit.

It might only be 77p each now, but if there was choice to opt out I wouldnt fancy the cost split between the few of you who stayed in.
Personally I would prefer not to have them. They are far from the sole or even primary reason people visit the UK. Tourists rarely catch a glimpse of them, and the bells and whistles and historical stuff associated with them would still be here to draw visitors.
At the very least I think all the spending around them needs to be cut back. They are extremely wealthy without state subsidy so could self fund a lot of their excesses without denting their personal fortunes. Which if they cared at all about a country on its uppers, they'd volunteer to do.

Of course its (part of) the point. Why should I pay extra to administer a system that lets you off paying for something?

I’ve never read that, putting it on my list! Thank you.

I think for me the problem with a minarchy that would not be the case with an elected, even ceremonial Head of State is everyone else. The culture of deference around them, from Royalists, right the way through the entire establishment allows them to get away with far too much. As they are unelected, they should be beyond reproach and subject to the utmost scrutiny. No hidden wills, no exemptions from legislation, and if they ask for exemptions, they should have to justify it openly in Parliament. If they are doing minimal royal duties, as William has done for years, they need to openly justify their worth and say why.

Masterful piece of self-delusion there, backed up by no evidence whatsoever and rebutted by @Arlanymor and others.

Why do monarchists spend hours denying the facts? They are all laid out, chapter by chapter, in Norman Baker's book "And what do you do?", a near-perfect takedown of the Windsor scam, based on his own experience as an MP, personal encounters with the "royal" family and his membership of the Privy Council.

From past discussions on mumsnet (4 years ago and here we still are) I know that monarchists do not have the courage to read that book, and certainly don't have the arguments to disprove its contents.

You nailed it.

Fed up with the absolute bullshit cut and paste AI answers from people with no ideas in their own heads. What do you think?

I suppose I should expect it from people supporting a monarchy, as they quite enjoy having their social betters telling them what to think.

@Crispsandcola I happened to know the numbers of billionaires in the UK, because I looked it up last month for something else. I don't know about the rest. But I'm sure someone will.