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To make my husband sleep outside.

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FarawayFlower · 14/06/2024 23:13

My husband frequently goes out after work for drinks with his colleagues, boss and the senior leaders at his work. He has a very well paid and respected job, and claims that city culture (London) very much promotes this aspect of his work. I do not have a problem with this, and I do know that much of the networking within his field does come from staying out for drinks and dinner after work.

HOWEVER, my husband never, ever takes a key to our home out with him! He asks me to leave the back door unlocked, which I do not feel comfortable doing as we have three small children, one of which is a baby. Even if it was just me in the house, I would not want to leave it unlocked. My flat was burgled a few years before I met my husband and this has made me even more vigilant about security. I do not understand why he cannot just take a key with him. The last few times he has come home, he has woken me (and probably the neighbours) up by ringing the door bell, calling my phone, knocking on the door. This is all after midnight.

He has just messaged me to say he is on his way home and to leave the back door unlocked. I have told him that if he does not have a key, he will need to sleep on the sofa in the outbuilding as I am not leaving the door unlocked, neither am I prepared to be woken up in the middle of the night to let him in!!

He’s now got really shitty with me telling me I am being unreasonable. Am I?

OP posts:
Octavia64 · 15/06/2024 14:09

Key safe.

We kept a spare key in there in case anyone (mostly the teenagers) lost one.

Glad to hear he is getting another key cut though.

NonPlayerCharacter · 15/06/2024 14:05

I've known a few men who do this - refuse to take a key and insist the wife is home and awake/available to let him in or that she leaves a door unlocked even when it's scary for her - as a control strategy.

Bellends, the lot of them.

MrMotivatorsLeotard · 15/06/2024 13:59

There’s something really unattractive about a grown man who is unable to remember to keep a house key on his person.

BirthdayRainbow · 15/06/2024 13:57

FarawayFlower · 14/06/2024 23:20

@Apileofballyhoo I’ve no idea. I can only assume it’s because he grew up in a small village where everyone kept their doors unlocked, and has never had the experience of being burgled.

And? That was then, this is now and his ridiculous stubbornness his causing the woman he's supposed to love annoyance.

Newestname002 · 15/06/2024 13:55

FarawayFlower · 14/06/2024 23:20

@Apileofballyhoo I’ve no idea. I can only assume it’s because he grew up in a small village where everyone kept their doors unlocked, and has never had the experience of being burgled.

Does he know, or care, that your house/contents insurance could be invalidated and claim refused if the house was not properly secured? Eg: unlocked doors, windows? 🌹

Codlingmoths · 15/06/2024 13:42

ErrolTheDragon · 15/06/2024 13:28

He should be able to work out where he's going to keep the key he's getting cut today all by himself.

Quite, him being able to manage a Big Job and all. And if a key safe is really the best idea, I feel if he put his high powered strategic mind to it, he could source one and get it installed. The ops only responsibility here is to lock her door for safety and turn off her phone to protect her sleep.

alrightluv · 15/06/2024 13:35

@FarawayFlower that's a result. I hope you got some sleep.

Greydogs123 · 15/06/2024 13:34

We have a key safe in the porch. We live in a very safe, low-crime place and used to just leave a key hidden in the porch. One day I thought how ridiculous it was because if anything did happen we’d have no claim on insurance or anything! Now we have a key safe and it doesn’t matter if anyone has forgotten their key.

Savoury · 15/06/2024 13:31

Missing the point here but the city has changed a lot and there is no longer a culture of “come out drinking or be fired”. People still go drinking with friends and colleagues but no different to anywhere else in the country in any type of job.

I just wanted to say that so this socialising isn’t seen as a must but a want.

ErrolTheDragon · 15/06/2024 13:28

Mumof2girls2121 · 15/06/2024 13:23

Could you suggest putting the door key into his wallet ?

He should be able to work out where he's going to keep the key he's getting cut today all by himself.

willWillSmithsmith · 15/06/2024 13:26

RB68 · 15/06/2024 11:00

get a ruddy key lock and stop being a drama queen.

What a strange reply. A grown man who refuses to carry a key and has no issue leaving a door unlocked late at night with his kids there would be a big issue for me.

Mumof2girls2121 · 15/06/2024 13:23

Could you suggest putting the door key into his wallet ?

JFDIYOLO · 15/06/2024 13:19

Read the title - YABU.
Then read the post - YANBU.

Tell him he's invalidated the house insurance by leaving the door unlocked.

He is being a dick.

Why exactly does he not take a key?

Is it to control you?

Imambaldi · 15/06/2024 13:17

FarawayFlower · 15/06/2024 12:25

He slept outside in the outbuilding despite his protestations (which has a sofa, heater and TV so he was hardly hard done by, for those concerned!)

Funnily enough he is going to get another key cut whilst we are in town today, to ensure he can keep it in his work bag and always has a spare in future!

Good outcome then,OP !

G123456789 · 15/06/2024 13:12

whyhavetheygotsomany · 15/06/2024 11:18

Hide a key out the front

Or get a secure key safe and keep the key in there. We have one and it's extremely handy if we forget our keys, family can get in, trusted tradespeople. You screw it to a wall somewhere discrete, ours is in our always open porch, tucked out of site

ErrolTheDragon · 15/06/2024 13:12

FarawayFlower · 15/06/2024 12:25

He slept outside in the outbuilding despite his protestations (which has a sofa, heater and TV so he was hardly hard done by, for those concerned!)

Funnily enough he is going to get another key cut whilst we are in town today, to ensure he can keep it in his work bag and always has a spare in future!

Excellent!

Codlingmoths · 15/06/2024 13:10

Well done you. Amazing how easily resolvable these situations become when you make it THEIR PROBLEM. But I’m a bit concerned- what kind of self centred turd expects the wife who is up with the dc overnight and up at 5 with the baby to wake up and let him in? I’d be waking him regularly ‘could you walk petunia back to her bed , it won’t take any longer than waking me up to answer the bloody door for you.’

AdvicePleas · 15/06/2024 13:06

Reading your post felt like I could have written it.
I had the same situation with dh not taking a key and expecting me to leave door unlocked or even worse put the key somewhere outside!! We also have 3 young kids. Unacceptable and ridiculous and obviously not something you would do so end up not sleeping and waiting for them!!

This became a habit and I realise now that I allowed it by not making his life difficult.
I got very angry and I warned him that I would not be doing it again and if he didn’t take the keys with him, he would need to stay at his friends because I was locking the door. After being warned if you follow through, then that’s on your DH. I did have to lose it with him.

Mine is going out tonight and he knows he needs his key to get in. But it needed to be spelt out.
people like our DHs are happy for a situation to continue if it works for them!

AtrociousCircumstance · 15/06/2024 13:05

He is a jerk, and I hope he had to sleep in a puddle.

gardenmusic · 15/06/2024 13:03

He may have slept in the garden room, but he still caused distress for the OP, when she has to be up early with the baby.

For those saying it's not 'hard' that's presuming that you are having a '30 second' conversation with someone who is on your side, someone who would never dream of leaving the door unlocked, or asking you to.
Someone who would not be waking up his sleep deprived partner and his kids after coming in at 1.00 rat arsed.
Someone who would carry a key, lock up carefully behind him (you know, so as not to cause the mother of his children undue stress) and have a bit of consideration.
I am guessing here, but an easy, 30 second conversation with him? I don't think so.

TeaGinandFags · 15/06/2024 12:58

FarawayFlower · 15/06/2024 12:25

He slept outside in the outbuilding despite his protestations (which has a sofa, heater and TV so he was hardly hard done by, for those concerned!)

Funnily enough he is going to get another key cut whilst we are in town today, to ensure he can keep it in his work bag and always has a spare in future!

Strange how once you keep a boundary they change their behaviour.

Remember this for the next time. People never pay attention to what you say. They pay attention to what you do.

Nclow · 15/06/2024 12:43

That's good news @FarawayFlower. Remember about the boundaries thing - his little weird belief that you should do things for him will surface in some other way. For me, when my husband had been left outside for ages on two occasions because I refused to open the door, he stopped doing it. But then he started randomly asking for lifts at inconvenient times / to awkward places and getting most upset when I wouldn't give them.

Keep an eye out for repeat behaviour, I think a previous PP had a really good point when they said, "I don't understand why this is so hard - this should be a 30 second conversation" (or something to that effect) - if you're thinking that about something going ok between you two then that's your red flag to get reflective and see if it might be part of a pattern!

Iloveshihtzus · 15/06/2024 12:40

Well done OP.

FarawayFlower · 15/06/2024 12:32

The baby is up at 5am so I am definitely not waiting up until 1am.

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SeaWorkout · 15/06/2024 12:29

It’s a control thing.
He needs to be locked outside a few times before he’ll get the message.

Or a key safe and switch off the door bell.

Those of you who say let him in if it’s before 1am, I’d have to set my alarm as I go to bed early ( 10ish) for work.