I live in an awful area, there was a shooting today and can't get out!

aerkfjherf · Today 19:35
I think Plumstead is a great place to live. A real community, OP look at Plumstead people on face book, and plumstead community market. There is so much sport and wildlife available in plumstead, and it is such a diverse community. There is so much going on - Op how old are your children? there is a lot to do and be involved with in Plumstead.

What a sttrange post! It almost seems like theres a bot trawling the boards looking for keywords.

I think Plumstead is a great place to live. A real community, OP look at Plumstead people on face book, and plumstead community market. There is so much sport and wildlife available in plumstead, and it is such a diverse community. There is so much going on - Op how old are your children? there is a lot to do and be involved with in Plumstead.

Actually, a live in job sounds like a really good option. Or even a job that comes with accommodation provided. Challenging to do with a child, but not impossible.

I guess you're talking about Plumstead.

The steady rise of cheap fentanyl that has flooded the market in Scotland and the USA and resulted in a drop in mortality rates for the first time since records began looks like it's finally made it's way to England. It was only a matter of time. Yes, I blame drugs.

OP - I don't know what the answer is but random killings are very unusual I'd wager most of the violent crime is gang or drugs related so thats good for you I guess. And just take all precautions which I'm sure you do.

But yes, things have definately got worse and not just in London. A combination of austerity and drugs

please can somebody say where this shooting was, and if anyone was hurt

I feel for you, OP, and for everyone living in high crime areas. It must be horrible, and frightening.

I used to live in Croydon. A couple of years ago there were 3 fatal stabbings (all unconnected), within a mile of my old house, in less than a year. Two of them were on what used to be my route home from the pub. In the small Sussex town I moved to, there have only been 3 murders in more than 30 years.

If you can work out where you'd like to move to, could you borrow the money for rent in advance and deposit? It must be awful to feel so trapped.

A live-in job sounds like a good idea to explore, too.

@Grossirsansplaisir

use your brain. 🧠

she doesn't have the money to pay rent, so she's not 'saving it'

shes on a low wage,at what sounds like a zero hours job.

she can't save what she doesn't have!

where is the shooting please

I live in the SE in a really affluent market town and we've just had an incident where a teenager was raped in the park in the middle of the afternoon.

It can happen anywhere.

I would not leave somewhere I didn't have to pay rent, especially in London, unless I had to. But I would look for a better job! Current one is no good. Low pay and irregular hours when you've got a child to pay for is not enough (sorry if that sounds mean - it really isn't meant to be)

I am sorry for your situation OP.
Im a going to suggest a job with a house or flat that comes with the job. It will probably be housekeeper or suchlike. Are you experienced in that sort of work? There are many roles advertised in The Lady. Most never get filled. My BFF did this when she left her husband. She had no experience just good home skills. You usually need to drive and like animals. The country does have crime but it's low. You could also try the national trust and The Richmond Fellowship.

I used to live where you live now. I saw all about the shooting on social media.
I moved a few years ago to Ireland.
I had no family here, but I applied for a few jobs online, got a cheap flight and went to the interview and got a job!
I then moved, rented a tiny cottage in the middle of nowhere and I'm still here.
It was hard, I think I cried for the first year but my children are in a little village school, there's not much crime, no shootings and although I miss London I think I miss it from the 1990s when I was young not what it is now. Its hard but you can move, will take alot of planning and will be difficult but its possible.

If you aren't on universal credit you might be able to save.

I do get it. I live somewhere crap. The local drug dealers never used the guns they had stashed away though, just the knives. I'm going to get a lodger when the kids move out and start saving hard so I can leave.

If you get your relative to throw you out then claim housing benefit and move elsewhere? It's way cheaper up north. You aren't trapped but it will require major change

was anyone hurt? where was the shooting?

Of course the maths are mathing. Minimum wage is just 11.44 an hour. For a normal working week that comes in at about £1600 a month. There may not be rent but there’s still council tax, fuel, travel, possibly childcare BUT the op says her hours aren’t regular so it’s very unlikely she’s clearing very much at all.

I've had something pretty awful happen to me which I won't go into detail about, but the teenager who did it was dressed all in black and wearing a balaclava. It was caught on camera very clearly, but the the police basically said there's absolutely nothing they can do as the attacker had a balaclava on and can't be identified. You can have all the security cameras and doorbell cameras you want but the footage means nothing if the person is wearing a balaclava, they can literally go around doing whatever the fuck they want.

I’ve lived in SW London all my life ( I’m 61 ) it’s always had pretty bad crime statistics ( it was really bad in the 80’s, loads more muggings ) we just cross our fingers and hope for the best. A lot of the crime is gang related, but of course you could get caught in the crossfire.

We thought about moving to a quiet little village somewhere but I’d probably get stabbed in the woods by some psycho.
We’re staying in London.
sorry op you’re feeling this way. I totally understand.

We moved to Northumberland no way did we want to bring our kids up in the drug fuelled streets where we were. Still social housing,lovely town,countryside and many happy kids. We discussed would we ever move back to a city and both said no way here to stay now

Yes, me too, I'm exactly the same

David Cameron said 5 years for carrying a knife and that certainly hasn't happened, but it does make you worry about the future of your children especially when a political party that is more right is running the country and yet crime is still ubiquitous. You must be so concerned but have no useful advice as its hard to get anywhere on min wage as a single person.

What is it that stopping you getting a full-time job. Do you have little children?

It's not grim everywhere "up north" though. I've lived in Cumbria for 25 years and I don't know anyone who's ever had a crime committed against them. Our crime rate is very low.