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to think that my retired DH's expectations of me are unfair?

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ZoraTheGrey · 14/06/2024 15:21

I am really unsure about which, if either of us, is being unreasonable and would welcome views.

My DH is about 20 years older than me. I knew all along that this age difference would bite at some point but underestimated how much his retiring would affect us. He is in his early sixties and retired from his NHS job a few months ago with a decent but not-amazing pension. I am in my early forties and work for the NHS full time in a patient-facing role. We have a 10 year old DD together who is starting secondary school soon.

DH says he really misses me now I'm still working and he isn't. If I am ever back from work late or need to do extra things in the evenings / weekends (pretty unavoidable in my job but I'm not doing a great deal of extra), he gets upset. He wants us to keep almost all weekends and evenings ringfenced as time for us as a couple or to spend with our daughter (he has no issue with her doing clubs and seeing her friends, which is good, but he doesn't like it if I see a friend or want to do an activity alone like going for a run). He doesn't like it when we visit my family or his and tries to put strict time limits on this. If I go off to do anything without him he wants a hard deadline for my return and will sometimes ring me to say he missed me and wishes I'd come home sooner. He says things like 'I hardly ever get to see you' and 'we need quality time.'

I love DH and love spending time with him but I find this all too much. We live a lot closer to his family than mine so his restrictions on how much time we can spend visiting other people or having guests over really limit how much I see my DD and siblings. I haven't been able to keep up with friends really as even taking a phone call from one is met with disappointed looks from DH.

Things I've tried so far: agreeing to ringfence certain days of the week for exclusively spending time with him and DD when I'm not working (and no phonecalls); regular date nights at gigs, cinema etc; asking for flexible hours so I can have half a day a week off to spend with DH in exchange for starting my other days earlier; massively cutting down on my contact with friends; dropping out of a running group I used to attend weekly (that hurt); doing almost all ferrying of DD to weekend clubs and parties to make up for DH doing it so much in the week.

Something I haven't tried: going part-time. We could just about afford it. I guess the truth is - and here is the crux of why I might be the unreasonable one here - I don't really want to. I love my job and want to keep progressing in it.

In case it's relevant I'll add that:

  • DH is a wonderful dad and has always done loads with DD; he now handles school drop off and pick ups almost every day.
  • We share housework fairly equally but he does cook more than me and has been doing some bigger house repair things himself recently. He tells me he has no complaints with how much I contribute to housework etc (although frankly this has always been an area where I have room to up my game).
  • DH has lots of mates and also family living close by; I encourage him to do things 1:1 with them sometimes or just him and DD with his family once in a while but he usually says he doesn't want to - he's rather be with me. I have even suggested he could go away abroad with friends but he says he doesn't want to.
  • Money isnt a factor restricting what he can do that much as he has far more in savings than me and now that I'm the only earner, I've made it clear that I'm still happy for him to spend our joint money as he sees fit. I don't see that as his or mine.
  • DH is far from lazy but doesn't have a hobby he's really into, which probably contributes to him feeling restless and isolated.

That was exhausting to write and probably worse to read so if you've got this far, thank you and I await your judgement! I am worrying for the future of my marriage and whether I'll have to choose between this and having my own life at all.

You are being unreasonable - you should have more empathy for your DH's position and spend more time with him.

You are not being unreasonable - you shouldn't have to give up your own hobbies and friends to spend all non-working time with your DH.

OP posts:
EC22 · 14/06/2024 22:15

He’s bored, he needs a hobby, not you to be there st his whim. Do not curtail your life for him, he is being unreasonable expecting you to.

you need a chat

Doubledded123 · 14/06/2024 22:11

He is awful, you must do more without him.
He can volunteeer !
Otherwise you are looking down the barel of another 30 years of doom.
Thank god I'm single , . . .

Ohnobackagain · 14/06/2024 22:11

@ZoraTheGrey your feelings are perfectly reasonable but it is common for retirement to hit some people like this. It is only a few months and is a massive change. He is also maybe feeling that he is worthless as you are still working. I think communication is key. My OH is retired and my career is on the up but he keeps himself busy and has lots of his own friends and interests. I think talk to him about how this is making you feel but also give it time.

Msmbc · 14/06/2024 22:09

He needs therapy to work out what hole he needs your constant presence to fill. That should take a lot of his time if he dedicates himself to it!

It's just awful that you're giving up your identity and the things that bring you joy. And it's unbelievable he expects you to share housework 50/50 and do as much childcare as you do when you work and he's a sahd of a 10 year old!

Please work on this together so you can model a healthy relationship to your daughter so the pattern doesn't repeat yet again. And so that you can have another happy couple of decades ahead of you as a couple. Good luck x

YourWildAmberSloth · 14/06/2024 22:07

Could he get a part-time job? Nothing too taxing, but enough to keep him occupied, He sounds bored and is making it your job to entertain him.

PrueRamsay · 14/06/2024 22:06

Like PP, I felt suffocated just reading this. I honestly don’t know how you are living in this horrible controlled and restricted way.

Why has he retired so early? Can he go back to work?

I don’t see this marriage lasting tbh. You aren’t his Entertainment Unit.

OVienna · 14/06/2024 22:00

Firm words and he scales his shit right back or LTB.

justenterausername · 14/06/2024 21:59

Imagine being early 60’s and doing school drop off and pick ups, as a parent and not a grandparent..

Do not reduce your working hours.

Castle0 · 14/06/2024 21:56

Maybe your mental illness was the result of being a boiled frog.

FrenchandSaunders · 14/06/2024 21:40

How old were you when you got together OP?

DaringFinch · 14/06/2024 21:39

My husband also in early 60s and has taken early retirement. I need to still work as 5 years younger . He does not constrict me in any way from doing activities or stop me from seeing friends. Your husband sounds unreasonable and controlling.

whatkatysdoingnow · 14/06/2024 21:35

He's male and he's older than you. Chances are, he's going to die first. I can see the argument for him wanting to spend as much quality time with you and you wanting to do the same.

However, he's taking this to the point where it's utterly stifling. If you live your life the way he thinks you should, you're not going to miss him when he's gone, and that's even worse than grief.

Retiring is a really big change for him, and you might need to change some small parts of your life now that's happened, but you absolutely should not be bailing on friends and family because he doesn't want you to socialise with anyone other than him. You are his partner in life - not his comfort blanket.

If he finds a bit more independence, it will be better for your relationship in the long run. As I said, the aim is that when one of you dies, the other is devastated. Not the the other is punching the air with glee to get her life back. he's pushing in a dangerous direction.

Lifelikinotdothinki · 14/06/2024 21:34

Wow, I feel suffocated just reading that @ZoraTheGrey . It’s not you, he’s way too needy. You need to put a stop to this madness right away.

Icepinkeskimo · 14/06/2024 21:31

Renamed · 14/06/2024 15:30

And if he’s so bored he should get a job

This is exactly on point, and absolutely spot on.
I have seen so many men retire and they fall to pieces. I believe it is something to do with a routine that is no longer present.
Even if he was doing one day a week it would help him.
The demands he is making on you is worrying though, ship him back to work asap.

ButterCrackers · 14/06/2024 21:20

Keep your work hours and your job. Rejoin the running club. See your friends. He needs to find an activity. How about a college course? There’s lots to do. He will adjust to being retired.

thismummydrinksgin · 14/06/2024 21:15

If you enjoy your job don't drop part time, works so good for our mental health x

Jxs27 · 14/06/2024 21:11

Retirement can be a shock even if planned and takes a lot of adjustments. Maybe that's part of it?

Sorchamarie · 14/06/2024 21:09

I say this out of concern for you and your daughter, OP. Something absolutely needs to change here. You're role modelling this kind of controlling relationship as normal to her. How will you feel if your daughter is in a relationship like yours when she's older and her partner were to severely isolate her from you, like your husband is doing with your family? Please start showing her that it is not acceptable for your partner to dictate how you live your life to this level!
Please please also start reading up about controlling and coercive relationships, as others have suggested, and really open your eyes that this relationship is absolutely not healthy for you (and for daughter to observe).

BarbaraWoodlouse1 · 14/06/2024 21:03

You know the answer to this.

How would you feel if a man was doing this to your daughter? Doesn’t matter about the other good bits. You need to feel free to be you. Tell him this.

He’s being way too needy. Not attractive and very worrying. Your daughter is quietly learning all of this which is even worse.

I’m confident you can sort this out.

AppleStruddle123 · 14/06/2024 21:02

Could you do 4 days a week?

I can see the imbalance. And that day would be for YOU not for him. You could see friends, run, go and see your family, stay overnight.

A full-time job for anyone is a lot of working generally. If you do 4 days, suddenly you get 50% extra time on the weekend than currently.

And I think 4 days a week is just healthy for everyone - not just you. It's a more balanced life all round but if you do it, you MUST ring-fence that day for you. It sounds like you are already fully committed to him over the weekend and this would allow you to keep your health, your friends, your family but having this day for yourself.

What he does on the other 5 days of the week is his problem. You both have a weekend together - that is enough time with each other while you are fit and healthy 40 something. He must accept that he needs to fill his life with something/someone other than you.

Shefliesonherownwings · 14/06/2024 21:01

When I read how you’ve set aside family time and date nights I thought fair enough those are good compromises and ways to spend quality time. Then you moved into changing your working hours to spend half a day with your DH, giving up running club, cutting down on time with friends and family and I baulked. Sacrificing those things because your DH cant cope on his own is crazy! Then talking about going part time is even worse. Please don’t do that and get back to your running club and spending time with friends and family (unlimited) asap! This is not your issue to fix, you’re being fair and reasonable, he is not and he needs to realise that or he’ll end up driving you away because your life will end up being nothing but him. He’s not being fair to you.

Timeheals · 14/06/2024 21:01

He’s lost a big aspect of his life and wants you to fill it - don’t! It is not your responsibility and it could be very unhealthy for your relationship especially if it involves you sacrificing big parts of your life. He can fill it - hobbies, projects, friends, volunteer work, whatever but it’s his responsibility to fill the gap he feels

Crocadoodledoo · 14/06/2024 20:59

I’d be cutting my losses and getting out of this marriage, before his control gets even worse and you’re trapped into becoming his carer.

It sounds a deeply unhealthy relationship and he’s far, far too old for you.

In 20 years you could be enjoying a fabulous retirement with someone nearer your own age.

Mummyoflittledragon · 14/06/2024 20:55

Maybe he could take up cycling or golf. These are very consuming apparently from all the threads of women fed up with their partners never being there.

Redburnett · 14/06/2024 20:50

He needs to 'get a life' so he is not dependent on you for his entertainment (and fundamentally that is what it is). He is being incredibly lazy not finding his own entertainment/something constructive to do eg clubs, U3A, volunteering, part time job, gym. My DH retired a few years before me and immediately joined U3A and got involved in various activities through that (music concerts, walks, learning a language), he also joined a local bridge club, and a gym that he goes to about 3 times a week. It would have been hopeless to rely on me for company as i often worked away.

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