Farage is leader of the opposition

Well… no
we rely on our democratic rules, so the max parliamentary length of 5 years then he and his party would have to go to the electorate again. We don’t rely on the parties having fair processes, although it’s preferred.

under our system we elect for 5 years and during that time they can do what they want. There’s no real mechanism to do anything if they dont do what we thought they would

my point is that parties can have whatever internal rules they like (I think)

Farage is standing more of less shoulder to shoulder with Steven Yaxley Lennon

They've decided that they hate Muslims more than the Jews.

I believe that the Jewish community have told Yaxley Lennon to fuck off, they don't want his support.

You...you...you think Nigel Farage isn't anti-semitic???

Farage is standing more of less shoulder to shoulder with Steven Yaxley Lennon, and he’s a vocal supporter of the Israeli govt isn’t he.

So the pair of them can’t possibly be amoral grifters spouting shite to the poorly informed, can they?🤔

You...you...you think Nigel Farage isn't anti-semitic???

The man who sidled up to Jewish schoolmates and whispered 'Gas them all'??

I like Nigel Farage and I’m glad there’s someone keeping the country from going too far left.

I would describe myself as centre right. I believe in work that pays; accountability for your own choices; taxes used appropriately and I am not interested in becoming poor in order to reach net zero sooner. I am concerned about the ‘open boarder’ policies of some of the other parties, we need skilled immigration, but not unskilled. I do not enjoy having other peoples ideologies shoved down my throat, although I tend to have a live and let live approach to life. I don’t judge others even though I might not agree. Although I do believe in women only spaces.

I consider myself to be ‘normal’, hard working and I’m pleased that Nigel is adding balance to some of the other parties, preventing them from going too far with some of their policies and ideas.

I appreciate that labour is going to get into power, I think they are useless, although they can’t be any worse than the Tories have been. I hope that Nigel can be an opposing voice in the next government standing up for us who perhaps aren’t as progressive, and there are many of us.

I refuse to call other people names or insult them based on who they vote for. I believe in tolerance towards all, except when it’s harmful e.g. those important women’s spaces.

Anyway, I’m a secondary teacher in her early 40’s and I will be voting for reform. It’ll be a first, but I feel it’s the right decision for me.

@GreekDogRescue a little bit of reading material to educate yourself
https://www.channel4.com/news/nigel-farage-ukip-letter-school-concerns-racism-fascism

Yes that's right about the Conservatives and Labour, the party is set up so that people within the party can remove their leader. They have the power to do so.

As Farage is the major shareholder of the company Reform UK nobody will be able to remove him.

Essentially he'll be like a dictator with complete free rein, won't he?

Green voting parents lol, did you read my post or are you stupid

Are you aware of some of the incredibly AS things Nigel garages has said in his you? Shall I find them for you?

Do your green-voting parents not have a problem with the horrendous anti Semitism in the Green Party or are they OK with racism?

He's a self-important, deluded little wanker with nasty racist views. Can't imagine anyone with more than one brain cell voting for him.

I’m not so sure. The one thing that seems obvious to me is that for every vote that the Tories chase on the far right, they drop another couple to the centrist or moderate voters that are not impressed by xenophobic and populist policies. And that’s exactly why we’re here now.

Anecdotally, my parents (80s) are both die hard Thatcherite tories, mum is more centrist and appalled by the direction, voting green probably this time. Dad is ex city trader, pragmatist and sees Trump for the fraud he is, he’s not voting reform either as he sees Farage as a populist, lazy grifter, which is what of course he is. He probably won’t vote.

Go Reform! 🎉
Love how Nigel is upsetting all the right people; the scores of anti semites and misogynists in the Green Party and the vile Lib Dems whose leader was complicit in the ruination of thousands of hard working postmasters!
Justice will be done.

No doubt you are a fan of failed attention seeker Ed Davey who keeps pointlessly jumping into rivers, presumably to deflect attention from his role in the abuse of post masters.
Well done Lib Dem fans!

I can think of a very big historical example of where this worked

Which is very worrying.

Whereas the extreme right just stab MPs to death in the street. Like terrorists.

Well unless the UK can find a way to discuss issues and sort them like adults we’ll have more of that to look forward to 😞

I hear people say this but when I watched the debate I didn’t find him at all impressive. Banging on about the same one issue, no new ideas or real policy. But the topic of immigration has been winning votes since time immemorial.

He successfully campaigned for Brexit and ruined the fucking country.

I don't like Farage's politics. But he is the only politician who seems to be able to answer questions directly. And speaks like you get what he's on about, you can relate to him

I won't vote for him. But I get the appeal.

I can think of a very big historical example of where this worked

Whereas the extreme right just stab MPs to death in the street. Like terrorists.

The same as under our system the conservatives can remove and change leader according to their own internal rules without asking the electorate. Reform ltd can do the same.

we implicitly agree to this when we elect them

He will be Tory leader in the not so distant future. It’s a terrifying thought.

He gets stuff thrown at him because people on the extreme left have this thing where they cannot control themselves around anyone who holds a different view to them so they throw things at people. Like toddlers.

Doesn't it mean though that Farage can take any action he likes - however unpopular or and the party can't get rid of him? Once in power he is free to do whatever good or bad he wishes without any check on his behaviour. It's a bit of a dictatorship isn't it?

Is that right and is that good for the country.

It absolutely is. There is significantly more people who lean towards Labour on here. Obviously there are some Tory and other party supporters on here, but I would say MN is generally a left leaning site. I’m surprised you don’t see this.

I would love to see him questioned on our changing climate.

His answer would be "China is worse so what's the point". Which is a bit fatalistic.

I get that. Parties can choose whatever mechanic they like to elect leaders though, there’s no rule it has to be “democratic” even though most do have some form of election.

you vote for a party you’re implicitly accepting their internal rules