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brandnewsomething · 14/06/2024 11:51

hi all, reaching out as I need an outsider’s opinion on a moral dilemma I’m having after my boyfriend of 6 months told me he’s had short, sexual relationships with a 19 yo, 20 and 21 yo at the age of 28.

For context, he is currently 31 and I am turning 29. He hasn’t dated in 2 years and we met through mutual friends. We are long distance. My friends are very in the know of our relationship journey and have approved him because they’ve seen his positive effects in my life—stability, kindness, generosity, effort, intention, servitude. But I’m starting to question everything now.

When I encouraged him to consider how problematic that is and the power dynamic of that age gap, he was very much on defense.

At first, his response was to insist that it was only casual sex and not full blown relationships, which didn’t make me feel better or feel like he understand the moral issue.

By the end of the conversation, he admitted that it was questionable behavior and said it’s not something he would do again. It’s hard to tell if he was genuine about this or just agreeing with me to end the conversation and move on.

I haven’t been able to move on, or continue acting like everything is OK and I know he can tell.

I reached out to him today to share that I still felt conflicted and needed some time and space to be introspective and draw out my boundaries. He again gave me mixed responses. He first told me he respected the space needed but later in the conversation he emotionally withdrew and told me if I’m planning to with him to let him know so he can let go.

I felt so uncomfortable ending the call because I was not proposing a breakup but he took it there. I feel uncomfortable retelling this.

If I had shared this info with me on our first date, it would have caused me to exit. but because I’ve experienced 6 months of comfort and safety with this person, I’m very confused.

I’m reaching out for compassionate insight, because I’ve grown to love this man and this information he’s shared with me is causing a huge inner conflict.

I don’t know whether to stay and work it out or take the signs and cut things off before I get in too deep.

Kind feedback welcome, my heart is feeling tired <3 thanks in advance

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LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 15/06/2024 19:27

It's not the age gap

It's that they were so young, and three on the bounce.

He's said himself he wouldn't do it again..which but it took 3 experiences to work that out.

Above age of consent doesn't equate to mature.

Annnnnd what else might he have a go at three times before deciding It's not for him...?

Itllfalloff · 15/06/2024 19:10

adults, and the age difference isn’t that
much either… if it was 20 and 45 I would see an issue ..

CammyChameleon · 14/06/2024 21:16

LordPercyPercy · 14/06/2024 12:59

Because I’m GenZ

You speak like an American who is very into therapy.

🤣 OMG, yes! People who are so into "solving" problems that they end up creating them!

HorsesDuvets · 14/06/2024 21:08

Allfur · 14/06/2024 20:08

So a 50 year old man and 19 year old girl is OK? Where is the line?

A 19 year old is not a girl.

Allfur · 14/06/2024 20:08

SocksAndTheCity · 14/06/2024 11:56

You sound really, really odd. An adult has had sex with some other adults (presumably before he even met you); what is this 'moral dilemma'?

And even if there was one it's not yours, is it? It's none of your business.

So a 50 year old man and 19 year old girl is OK? Where is the line?

Skippydoodle · 14/06/2024 20:04

I honestly don’t see a problem. Met my husband at 18 he was 27, we were, and still are a great match 32 years later.

HysteriaOfTheWanderingWomb · 14/06/2024 20:04

Sorry about the messed up formatting there.
Bold, not bold, bullets... It all went haywire and even in edit I can't correct it!

HysteriaOfTheWanderingWomb · 14/06/2024 20:00

I think it is a big mistake to conclude, as fact, that these relationships reveal something unpalatable about him.

If I was him, and those relationships had been characterised by mutual consideration and enjoying something together which satisfied what each was looking for (even if that's just a bit of fun)... And then a couple of years later someone came along, full of an acute awareness of how problematic male behaviour can present itself.. and then without really knowing much about those relationships, explained to me that i what I did couldn't have been ok, was certainly a symptom of my exercising unfair power over them, and downgrading their view of me based on that subjective point of view, I'd be pretty unhappy.

Lots of young adult women enjoy a relationship with a somewhat older guy, the options at your own age are often pretty dismal, let's face it... How many 18/19 yo guys are mature enough to offer a fun relaxed relationship to a mature young adult female... Some would. Many won't.

When I was 18 the 28yo I was with was the guy I lost my virginity to... because he wasn't a young idiot, it was a great experience! I am so glad my first foray into that was lovely for me and not just a conquest for him, like it might have been if he still had stuff to prove himself - he was relaxed and in no hurry. He gave me confidence in myself, was supportive and was respectful about everything. At that time I didn't know a single guy my own age who could have given me that, I don't think that's always true but I don't think that's unusual either.

Add to that, if you are a 28yo guy wanting an intimate relationship, one where you don't necessarily want to get serious... but are fully aware that females your own age are highly likely to want to get serious you have limited choices which are...

  • Get together with a female who is not likely to want to get serious, so young enough to be just playing the field herself. * * Find a female your own age who is definitely not looking for a serious relationship - not easy at all
  • Get together with a female your own age without caring if she is hoping for a serious relationship, and tell her what she wants to hear while you have your fun, and waste her time.

So out of those options, the younger women option is arguably the least problematic! You have a lot to offer her that suits her age and stage. Ditto she you.

obviously if you are seeking young women because you know/hope they will put up with crap treatment and have poor boundaries, that's a whole other scenario, but if you are offering a decent respectful relationship to someone who wants it, I can't see the problem.

We are now so much more alert to these shitty exploitative types which is entirely a good thing, but life isn't black and white and it isn't true that every age gap relationship is a symptom of a sick attitude.

In your shoes I'd be more curious about his experience of those relationships, more interested in what his connection with them was.
I'd factor in my own experience of how his mind works and what his values and moral compass is. I'd bear in mind that we all mature through life experience and he may not have until now had any reason to question his conduct in the arena of sexual politics, may have just been happily accepting that if someone says they're happy to be with him, then that's that.

So, my next step would be to talk to him, tell him you don't want to jump to conclusions, that snap judging someone when you weren't there is unrealistic and unfair and go from there.

Mumoftwo1316 · 14/06/2024 16:45

TheShellBeach · 14/06/2024 13:57

Haven't you seen the Childfree Board?

Or Dadsnet?

Or noticed that men post on all the threads on here?

I don't think op meant it literally- she meant that because we are (mostly) mums, she expected us to be Nice and huggy wuggy Earth mothers, who talk in similar language to the op (words like "safety and comfort", compassion, grace, draw boundaries, intention and servitude, etc).

The vast majority of mums I know have no time for this sort of navel gazing. Too busy getting actual stuff done.

Op, just leave him and move on. I for one agree that age gaps are icky. Not everyone agrees, but you do. So leave him, job done, the end.

Notsonifty50 · 14/06/2024 15:14

I don't see the problem. I had a 28 year old boyfriend when I was 19. It didn't feel like an unbalanced relationship at all and I felt we were at a similar level of maturity.

MissAtomicBomb1 · 14/06/2024 15:00

crimsonlake · 14/06/2024 13:30

I think you are wasting a great deal of headspace on this as he has probably already decided to dumped you.

Agreed, bet he's wishing he'd kept his mouth shut.
I mean who would put up with that level of moralising over something that probably happened years ago. Obviously not compatible - dump & move on.

ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie · 14/06/2024 14:55

TheShellBeach · 14/06/2024 13:57

Haven't you seen the Childfree Board?

Or Dadsnet?

Or noticed that men post on all the threads on here?

Or that if you post on AIBU, you are going to get robust responses.

Crunchymum · 14/06/2024 14:51

I had a relationship with a man who was 9 years older than me when I was 19/20.

It was a very nurturing, respectful, caring and surprisingly balanced relationship. He was a good guy and we had a wonderful time. He was a civil servant, I was at university and worked part time. We met each others families (my parents did a really good job of not freaking out about it!) we took trips, we hung out with our different friendship groups. We partied, we spent all our spare time together and I I really go to explore my sexual self with him.

It was a totally positive experience for me and even though we went our separate ways in the end (I was way too young to settle down and he wasn't) I remember him fondly and we still swap Christmas cards 20 years down the line.

He ended up with someone his own age, has been married for 15 years and has a young family (and I'm the exact same. Ended up with someone my own age!)

TheShellBeach · 14/06/2024 14:39

HorsesDuvets · 14/06/2024 14:37

I'm reminded why I hate my job so much - hours upon hours on calls with American clients every day.

🤣

HorsesDuvets · 14/06/2024 14:37

I'm reminded why I hate my job so much - hours upon hours on calls with American clients every day.

TheShellBeach · 14/06/2024 14:10

Gogogo12345 · 14/06/2024 14:01

It's 16 in the uk

OP is in the USA.

Gogogo12345 · 14/06/2024 14:01

Ponoka7 · 14/06/2024 13:16

I'm on the fence because the age of consent is 18. So the question would be how would I feel about a 27 year old man setting his age range for 17. I'd consider it creepy. Could they properly date at that age, as go out for a drink, or is that underage as well? Seeking out teens to shag would put me off.

It's 16 in the uk

Gogogo12345 · 14/06/2024 13:59

brandnewsomething · 14/06/2024 11:55

The big deal is that one has been an adult for 10 years and the other has only been age to consent for 1 year.

Which one was only a year over the age of consent (16)

TheShellBeach · 14/06/2024 13:57

brandnewsomething · 14/06/2024 12:49

LOL actually so true. Realizing now that this isnt the forum for a vulnerable feely person . I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL MUMS HERE

Haven't you seen the Childfree Board?

Or Dadsnet?

Or noticed that men post on all the threads on here?

Mayorq · 14/06/2024 13:42

CustardCream0472 · 14/06/2024 13:24

If you have an issue with the age gaps that's up to you and it's your perogative to end the relationship.

Where I think you are unreasonable is "I encouraged him to see how problematic that is". He might have done something you personally wouldn't do, but he hasn't actually done anything wrong. I don't think it's right for you to try and make him feel bad about something that he did before you even met him.

If a new partner told me they wanted me to reflect on my past problematic behaviours I'd be telling them where to go!

I think you either have to accept it or end it. But all this "I need space and I need to draw boundaries" is really wrong and unfair in my opinion.

Especially if she's then going to criticise him for drawing his own boundaries

Gabbsters · 14/06/2024 13:42

I think you either have to accept it or end it. But all this "I need space and I need to draw boundaries" is really wrong and unfair in my opinion.

I agree with this. Obviously people have a range of opinions on whether the age gap is concerning- you're entitled to yours and you're entitled to end the relationship over this or anything else you choose. But equally, he is entitled to have had a past and to reject your analysis of it. You just need to decide what you want to do, not worry about what others would do.

FWIW I had a long term relationship with a man 12 years older than me when I was 18. There probably was power dynamic because of age (which I wasn't at all aware of at the time, nor that anyone might find it strange- his female friends used to be a bit weird with me and at the time I thought they just didn't like me, but in retrospect I think they felt uncomfortable with the situation) and also the fact that he had a "cool" occupation whereas I was a student. I regret it now, largely because it meant I didn't take full advantage of the stage of life I was at. But also I don't think he exploited me or had a problematic view of the relationship at all- in fact, the difference in life stage worked the other way, so when I was 21 I wanted my independence whereas he wanted to get married...I'm not sure these things are ever as straightforward as "old person is exploiting young person".

Mayorq · 14/06/2024 13:39

"He again gave me mixed responses. He first told me he respected the space needed but later in the conversation he emotionally withdrew and told me if I’m planning to with him to let him know so he can let go."

That's not a mixed message tbf, that's consistent.

SamanthaJonesWasRight · 14/06/2024 13:36

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 14/06/2024 13:11

There are relationships that could be inappropriate without being actually illegal though, and if there were a pattern of these in someone's past they may be someone to avoid having a relationship with.

And some could be illegal but not particularly worrying or an automatic sign of anything - a 16 year with a 15 year old, say.

My point being that you cannot expect a full run down of every act a person has carried out throughout the course of their life like an onboarding interview to ensure that it tallies with your own moral compass. You have no idea about the thoughts that go on in someones' head and rightly so.

He may well have had/would like other encounters that are more morally dubious to the OP, but he's keeping those under his hat. There is no way of knowing, but after six months, she's just found out that the bloke she is seeing has got some attitudes that are problematic for her. This could happen at six years in, sixteen years in and six children with him. It's your own responsibility to decide if a person is someone you want to stay in relationship with and this is an ongoing process.

It's just part of being in a relationship. It's part of the deal of being human and navigating a relationship with a human, you don't get to pick a squeaky clean one off the shelf with the features you've ordered, especially pertinent the older you get.

crimsonlake · 14/06/2024 13:30

I think you are wasting a great deal of headspace on this as he has probably already decided to dumped you.

CustardCream0472 · 14/06/2024 13:24

If you have an issue with the age gaps that's up to you and it's your perogative to end the relationship.

Where I think you are unreasonable is "I encouraged him to see how problematic that is". He might have done something you personally wouldn't do, but he hasn't actually done anything wrong. I don't think it's right for you to try and make him feel bad about something that he did before you even met him.

If a new partner told me they wanted me to reflect on my past problematic behaviours I'd be telling them where to go!

I think you either have to accept it or end it. But all this "I need space and I need to draw boundaries" is really wrong and unfair in my opinion.

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