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To be done with this forum..

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Hardknocks · 13/06/2024 20:51

I don’t know what’s in the water at the moment but I’ve posted a few times on here in the last few months seeking advice and have received nothing but awful, nasty comments that have really upset me, and I am not a sensitive person. I don’t have a close circle of mum friends, I’m not close to my mum either so this is the only place I can come and voice these concerns or feelings.

Nothing I’ve said has been outrageous or contentious, I mainly ask questions about whether particular aspects of my toddlers behaviour is normal, but I’ve been called a bad mum, entitled, lazy and stupid amongst other worse ones. I know (or thought) I wasn’t any of those things, just a mum to a 2 year old navigating this all for the first time.

This forum has really changed in the last few years and I’m not sure why, but it’s not a very nice place to be anymore. If anyone has any suggestions for other forums please let me know… I could really do with the support.

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hiMartha · 14/06/2024 17:49

And now I wish I’d not said particularly twice. There will be people judging my vocabulary 😂

hiMartha · 14/06/2024 17:46

Yeah, it’s weird. I’d never post here if I was particularly emotional and looking for reassurance. Some people are kind and measured but there are people who delight in being contrary and mean spirited. I guess they’re not particularly happy themselves.

Senzafine · 14/06/2024 17:42

I can understand what you mean. There's some particular threads especially ones surrounding SAHM/working mums that bring out all sorts of nasty comments from both sides with some people completely unable to understand the circumstances that make people make the choices they want to.

I also see it as well on threads about older mums and horrible agesim on there. People being called selfish and all sorts of manner of things. For people like me who are considering a 2nd baby at 37, can be really hard to read!

Ispywithmylittlepie · 14/06/2024 17:26

Back in 2005 I found it light hearted and less aggressive, definitely.
These days I seem to visit less and less. Hard had at the ready and all that.
It's a weird place is MN. I enjoyed this forum much more 20 years ago but I could say that about other aspects of my life too!

IGuessIllbetheFirst · 14/06/2024 17:24

I think there is a difference between getting advice that you don’t agree with and deliberately nasty posts. I can see that there are some posters now that just want to bully the OP or pick fights. I guess that they are very unhappy in their lives and that is why they do it so I haven’t responded when it has happened to me, I can see from other threads that they do it to provoke a reaction. But if it stops a women in need of getting help and good advice, then that is a real shame as that is was this site was set up for and good at years ago.

Howbizarre22 · 14/06/2024 17:22

NonPlayerCharacter · 14/06/2024 16:56

Plenty of posters these days have nuts.

🤣🤣🤣👏🏼

Howbizarre22 · 14/06/2024 17:20

Exactlab · 14/06/2024 16:51

You really did that?! 🤣

Yes I really did that! Because Im a positive upbeat person & I love sharing it 😊 I love to hear what little things brighten peoples day, I myself notice the little things even when life feels dark. There’s enough negativity in the world and half of it’s on mumsnet I reckon, so I was happy to read the responses 😃

Mindyourownbusinessmadam · 14/06/2024 17:10

Is it because you only focus on the negative comments though? Because I notice some people get some great advice as well as a bit of bad. But only comment on the bad ones I stead of thanking g the good ones. Some peoples glass is always half empty.

GingerPirate · 14/06/2024 17:09

NonPlayerCharacter · 14/06/2024 15:07

I still laugh when I remember the dudebro who came on here to tell us we were all old, fat and mumsy and would never get a sexy catch like him, until someone asked him why, if he was such catnip and we were such hags, he was hanging around with us alone at 10pm on a Saturday night.

😂

GingerPirate · 14/06/2024 17:01

Hm.
Sorry, OP.
I got ear-bashed for not having kids and a husband who is three decades older.
Nasty, careless gold digger (for 20 years).
Oh well, do you really need to be done with MN, though?
🍕❤️😜

Yampy · 14/06/2024 16:59

NonPlayerCharacter · 14/06/2024 15:07

I still laugh when I remember the dudebro who came on here to tell us we were all old, fat and mumsy and would never get a sexy catch like him, until someone asked him why, if he was such catnip and we were such hags, he was hanging around with us alone at 10pm on a Saturday night.

😂

NonPlayerCharacter · 14/06/2024 16:56

Boomer55 · 14/06/2024 16:53

Over the net, this site is known as “mumnuts” because of some of the posts.

I wouldn’t post here for serious advice. 🤷‍♀️

Plenty of posters these days have nuts.

Boomer55 · 14/06/2024 16:53

Over the net, this site is known as “mumnuts” because of some of the posts.

I wouldn’t post here for serious advice. 🤷‍♀️

Exactlab · 14/06/2024 16:53

The posts I absolutely hate are the ones where people write about what snacks they are eating. It’s the most mindless drivel. If there were boys they should go after those threads. The interesting ones are always taken down.

Exactlab · 14/06/2024 16:51

Howbizarre22 · 14/06/2024 13:47

I recently started a thread of positivity called pure joy to try and counter all the negativity but it had about 3 responses 😂🤣🤣 I guess people are drawn to the bad stuff more & love a good argument!

You really did that?! 🤣

Exactlab · 14/06/2024 16:49

Lavengro · 14/06/2024 13:56

No, you missed my point. I think there's a lot of bot activity on social media generally, and the point of them is to polarise debate and toxify public discourse, which creates fertile ground for other kinds of social division. Ordinary people being obnoxious to each other is fallout from that.

It's not exactly an original observation and the fact that people are already mocking it kind of proves my point.

Thank you for explaining this to me

KomodoOhno · 14/06/2024 16:02

daisychain01 · 14/06/2024 05:12

When you're feeling down or overwhelmed with a problem, you don't always feel able to "laugh it off". Having a bunch of posters lay in on you with snarky or judgemental comments just makes you feel even more alone. If the OP could laugh it off, I don't suppose she'd have started this thread!

I was saying only that I laugh it off. And I will laugh this comment off too.I hope all the support op has gotten on this thread helps her if she stays on mumsnet or not.

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 14/06/2024 15:37

NonPlayerCharacter · 14/06/2024 15:07

I still laugh when I remember the dudebro who came on here to tell us we were all old, fat and mumsy and would never get a sexy catch like him, until someone asked him why, if he was such catnip and we were such hags, he was hanging around with us alone at 10pm on a Saturday night.

I was a member of another forum that had a thread about mumsnet it kicked off big style with people from both sites going on the other. It was quite amusing and light hearted. This was years ago though before everyone forgot what a sense of humour was or became really nasty.

EatCrow · 14/06/2024 15:26

starlingskies · 14/06/2024 15:09

I think you can't win on here, no matter what you post, often the replies take the opposite view. If you posted a thread on the same topic with the opposite view on the OP, you would get responses which would agree with you/have sympathy on your original view. It's like devil's advocate every time. No matter what you say, there will be a queue of people to say that you are wrong!

It almost seems like gaslighting.

frankentall · 14/06/2024 15:23

VintageBag · 14/06/2024 15:14

Really mature and constructive post. 🙄

and yours is......

This thread is just a variation on the regular "everyone's become so mean" threads that appear on here most weeks and have been for at least 10 years. It's the internet, anyone who doesn't like it here is free to go elsewhere, plenty of other parent/Mum forums. I like this place.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 14/06/2024 15:20

theresnolimits · 14/06/2024 12:35

Mumsnet seemed to get really aggressive over Covid which polarised people and that tone has continued. The furore over VAT in private schools is one example. The hate filled language from both sides around class was/is shocking - you can’t offered a reasoned comment, it’s all vitriol.

Is Mumsnet just a mirror for society when certain groups are othered by politicians and the media and the House of Commons is a bear pit? And this is magnified by the anonymity of the internet where no one has to take responsibility.

I’ve found good advice and support here and I refuse to engage if any one is nasty. My advice on social media - use it but don’t lose it.

This is a really insightful comment. I do think that the Scottish Indyref, Brexit, the 2019 GE and the lockdown damaged the national psyche - we lost the ability to remember how to be respectful to people with different opinions.

And I also think the 'call out' culture of social media means that people are now conditioned by the big tech platforms to actively look for a reason to criticise or put the boot in.

Im not immune to this; no one is.

On MN, as other PPs have pointed out, the tone of the first few comments has a massive influence. Humans are herd animals and we tend to fall in with the direction the wind's blowing.

duchessofsilk · 14/06/2024 15:19

starlingskies · 14/06/2024 15:09

I think you can't win on here, no matter what you post, often the replies take the opposite view. If you posted a thread on the same topic with the opposite view on the OP, you would get responses which would agree with you/have sympathy on your original view. It's like devil's advocate every time. No matter what you say, there will be a queue of people to say that you are wrong!

Yes- I have noticed this too, so many times!!

Eg whenever someone says they only have a joint account everyone says it's making them vulnerable and "he'll leave you and take all your money", "you're being very foolish" etc. When people say they have separate finances they get 'well thats not a real marriage is it?" and "thats awful you dont trust your partner" blah blah You cant win.

I feel like whatever stance the OP takes, people seem to like taking the opposite view. Its so bizarre this need to be contrary.

MyQuaintDog · 14/06/2024 15:18

Most other sections are dead - not all, but I have looked at some that have not been posted on for months.

Davros · 14/06/2024 15:17

I do think any OP needs to spend a bit of time familiarising themselves with the site and finding the most relevant area to post on. Just putting anything and everything in AIBU or Chat is not going to get the most useful and reasonable responses. Not that I'm saying you've done that OP but it definitely happens

VintageBag · 14/06/2024 15:14

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Really mature and constructive post. 🙄

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