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To think if you can no longer afford school fees...

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TiredMumE · 13/06/2024 19:54

that is tough.

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SabrinaThwaite · 14/06/2024 09:54

SabrinaThwaite · 14/06/2024 09:45

What were you trying to say?

My reply was to the poster claiming that their medic friends had to send their child(ren) to private school to achieve the level of education required for healthcare professions.

Do you think that’s true?

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Ah, you are that poster.

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 09:54

My best friend got into Cambridge from a state school. Both her parents attended too. Her Dad was a lecturer at Cambridge too.

Beezknees · 14/06/2024 09:53

MyNameIsFine · 14/06/2024 08:51

What's that got to do with anything? People who work long hours in hospitals don't have a lot of spare time for their children's education. This is how they make it work.

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You said that they need to send their children private to achieve the level of education to do a medical degree. Which isn't true.

SabrinaThwaite · 14/06/2024 09:45

MyNameIsFine · 14/06/2024 09:40

That wasn't quite what I was saying. But never mind. These threads are amazing! There's no need to send your child to private school and we need you to pay extra tax into the state system to make it work. Which is it?

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What were you trying to say?

My reply was to the poster claiming that their medic friends had to send their child(ren) to private school to achieve the level of education required for healthcare professions.

Do you think that’s true?

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 09:44

To do A-Levels you need 5 passes at GCSE (9-4 grades).

Aladdinzane · 14/06/2024 09:42

"It’s also a much higher proportion of pupils that do A levels at private school - more like 18% - so it depends how the BMJ defines private school educated in its figures."

So private school children are still over represented?

But here's the secret no one tells you about medical places, over 50% of students studying medicine have parents who are doctors.

Aladdinzane · 14/06/2024 09:40

"People who succeed academically in state schools, it's generally down to the parents putting in a lot of time and effort at home - at least, at primary level."

Wow. This is a really ill thought out statement.

MyNameIsFine · 14/06/2024 09:40

SabrinaThwaite · 14/06/2024 09:38

I’m not disputing that.

My issue was with the claim of having to send children to private school to achieve the level of education required to enter healthcare professions.

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That wasn't quite what I was saying. But never mind. These threads are amazing! There's no need to send your child to private school and we need you to pay extra tax into the state system to make it work. Which is it?

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 09:38

@Behappyandbehave have her appl;y for UC. Worst they can say is no
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SabrinaThwaite · 14/06/2024 09:38

MyNameIsFine · 14/06/2024 09:17

People who succeed academically in state schools, it's generally down to the parents putting in a lot of time and effort at home - at least, at primary level.

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I’m not disputing that.

My issue was with the claim of having to send children to private school to achieve the level of education required to enter healthcare professions.

SabrinaThwaite · 14/06/2024 09:35

ichundich · 14/06/2024 09:14

Since only 7% of kids go to PS it's only logical that 80% of medical students come from state schools. If the numbers were different, you wouldn't be happy either.

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Maybe you should read that posters original comment to understand the context?

It’s also a much higher proportion of pupils that do A levels at private school - more like 18% - so it depends how the BMJ defines private school educated in its figures.

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 09:35

How many hours does she do? If it's 18 could she not claim universal credit?

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 09:34

I am really sorry about that.

Behappyandbehave · 14/06/2024 09:34

My daughter works at a private school as a TA. From September her hours have been reduced to an amount that isn't financially viable. She will have to leave and find something else. Being ND this is very upsetting for her.
The classes at the school she works at are also being cut. Several children will be leaving and are all upset.
I feel sorry for her, the children and all the other staff. Don't agree with this at all.

Barefootsally · 14/06/2024 09:33

MyNameIsFine · 14/06/2024 09:31

You think people working 12 hour shifts have time to teach their kids to read?

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Yeah! I do! It takes 10 mins a night reading with them in bed 🤯

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 09:33

Innate intelligence also.

Willyoujustbequiet · 14/06/2024 09:32

MyNameIsFine · 14/06/2024 09:17

People who succeed academically in state schools, it's generally down to the parents putting in a lot of time and effort at home - at least, at primary level.

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And excellent teaching and a supportive environment at school too.

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 09:32

There's 12 hours left. We managed it.

MyNameIsFine · 14/06/2024 09:31

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 09:26

Not every child needs a lot of time and effort to achieve. Once you've taught them to read they can then learn independently.

You think people working 12 hour shifts have time to teach their kids to read?

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 09:29

All outstanding - London?

Willyoujustbequiet · 14/06/2024 09:28

Livelovebehappy · 14/06/2024 08:09

Lucky you. Unfortunately a lot of state schools aren’t. Ours made the local news recently because kids didn’t like something the HT had brought in and the pupils went crazy throwing chairs and being disruptive. But hey, as long as your school is decent, doesn’t matter about the others, most of which are pretty poor.

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I recognise my privilege in living in an area with outstanding state schools on the doorstep, not just one btw, they all are.

But please don't imply that I don't care or am not aware of areas that aren't so lucky as I said nothing of the sort.

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 09:26

Not every child needs a lot of time and effort to achieve. Once you've taught them to read they can then learn independently.

MyNameIsFine · 14/06/2024 09:17

SabrinaThwaite · 14/06/2024 09:12

You said that your medic friends have to pay thousands of pounds extra tax to get their children educated to a similar standard they needed to get into healthcare.

That’s clearly not true when the vast majority of medical students are state educated, is it?

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People who succeed academically in state schools, it's generally down to the parents putting in a lot of time and effort at home - at least, at primary level.

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 09:16

70 per cent bursary - that's really high.

Aladdinzane · 14/06/2024 09:15

"Our private school has 70% on bursaries because we have been very invested in supporting the brightest in the community. It is such a short sighted and ill informed, politically driven policy"

MN seems to have a huge number of parents whose private schools give way over the average level of bursaries.

The average bursary btw only covers 35% of the fee, so for an average day school secondary a parent is going to need to come up with 975 a month for fees, this is rather a lot, however a if the IFS estimate is correct, they'd have to find just under 150 quid extra to pay for the VAT.