Page 7 | To think if you can no longer afford school fees...

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 11:15

In special measures?

Topofthemountain · 14/06/2024 11:11

ichundich · 14/06/2024 10:42

Yes, there are some outstanding schools. As you can imagine they are very oversubscribed and of no use to anybody outside their catchment. There are also some of the worst schools, e.g. The Ivo and Longsands.

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Define 'worse schools' Surely it is all relative.

Willyoujustbequiet · 14/06/2024 11:09

ichundich · 14/06/2024 10:42

Yes, there are some outstanding schools. As you can imagine they are very oversubscribed and of no use to anybody outside their catchment. There are also some of the worst schools, e.g. The Ivo and Longsands.

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My area is full of outstanding schools and they all have spare places.

Also you catchment isn't the priority as is the case in lots of areas.

Willyoujustbequiet · 14/06/2024 11:06

Livelovebehappy · 14/06/2024 10:45

Maybe you're lucky enough to live in a nice area, presumably chosen for the school performance in that area being outstanding, as is usual for the better off amongst us, as they have that option. Out of interest, if the schools weren't outstanding, would you have paid for your children to go private? Or would they have had to suck it up in a poor performing school?

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No, I didn't choose the area or the school.

It's just the area I was born in and it's the closest school to me. But they are all excellent for miles around me so it wouldn't have made any difference in that sense.

As I said I recognise my privilege but regardless I wouldn't have paid as I am ideologically opposed to private education.

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 11:05

it overlooks a beautiful Lake

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 11:04

She owns a house in the national park too. She doesn't like it enough to live in it...

Aladdinzane · 14/06/2024 11:04

@DingDongWitchDingDong

"pays 42k and rents in a naice area"

Which is a choice.

MyNameIsFine · 14/06/2024 11:03

SabrinaThwaite · 14/06/2024 10:49

That's fair enough - if only you'd said that in the first place though!

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Yes, sorry. I suppose I should think things through a bit better before posting!

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 11:02

I know someone who pays 42K (inc boarding) and rents in a naice area.

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 11:01

At 108K probably not choosing between heating and eating I'd wager.

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 10:59

Naice catchments?

Aladdinzane · 14/06/2024 10:54

" As you can imagine they are very oversubscribed and of no use to anybody outside their catchment."

And those people who can afford on average 18k a year, per child, for secondary education are likely to be able to afford to live in what catchments?

Even for 1 child this means you'd be able to pay 108k ( assuming a year 8 start) in 7 years. Are people who can do this really living in the most deprived areas of the county?

SabrinaThwaite · 14/06/2024 10:49

MyNameIsFine · 14/06/2024 10:39

Perhaps I didn't word it very well, then. I'm sorry about that. There are a lot of factors people are weighing up when deciding to go for private school. For little children that will be things like, the cost of a nanny (compared to prep school), the extra curricular, how much time they have themselves to devote to their child's educational development etc. etc. I didn't mean that children who go to state school can't become doctors, that would be a dreadful state of affairs!

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That's fair enough - if only you'd said that in the first place though!

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 10:47

My childs school isn't outstanding - it's good acc to OFSTED.

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 10:46

I suppose 4 per cent to 25 per cent is a huge leap.

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 10:45

What do you mean economically less attractive PP?

Livelovebehappy · 14/06/2024 10:45

Willyoujustbequiet · 14/06/2024 09:28

I recognise my privilege in living in an area with outstanding state schools on the doorstep, not just one btw, they all are.

But please don't imply that I don't care or am not aware of areas that aren't so lucky as I said nothing of the sort.

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Maybe you're lucky enough to live in a nice area, presumably chosen for the school performance in that area being outstanding, as is usual for the better off amongst us, as they have that option. Out of interest, if the schools weren't outstanding, would you have paid for your children to go private? Or would they have had to suck it up in a poor performing school?

Barefootsally · 14/06/2024 10:45

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 10:42

If I wanted a private education. I'd really want to be absolutely sure I could cover to the end of Year 13. Children deserve stability.

I don’t think people had any idea the VAT would be added. We generally factor on 4% to fees each year.

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 10:42

If I wanted a private education. I'd really want to be absolutely sure I could cover to the end of Year 13. Children deserve stability.

ichundich · 14/06/2024 10:42

Aladdinzane · 14/06/2024 10:39

@ichundich

I find it interesting that every time one makes an accurate point regarding the majority of cases, people decide that they must dispute this with their own individual circumstances. I also find it interesting that whilst Cambridgeshire does have pockets of poverty ( both rural and urban) which add to the lower ratings issue, that it does also have a whole load of outstanding schools, including one of the countries largest and most successful state 6th form centres.

Yes, there are some outstanding schools. As you can imagine they are very oversubscribed and of no use to anybody outside their catchment. There are also some of the worst schools, e.g. The Ivo and Longsands.

MyNameIsFine · 14/06/2024 10:39

SabrinaThwaite · 14/06/2024 10:16

But that’s not what you previously said, was it?

You'll care when doctors leave the country or quit their job. They're already pissed off at their pay and conditions, now you 'couldn't care less' that they have to pay thousands of pounds extra tax to get their children educated to a similar standard they needed to get into healthcare. At some point they're going to decide that they 'couldn't care less' about you.

Nothing there about wanting extra curriculars or wrap around care, was there?

But nice to point out the ‘very high academic aspirations’ of private school parents. It’s not unique to them BTW.

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Perhaps I didn't word it very well, then. I'm sorry about that. There are a lot of factors people are weighing up when deciding to go for private school. For little children that will be things like, the cost of a nanny (compared to prep school), the extra curricular, how much time they have themselves to devote to their child's educational development etc. etc. I didn't mean that children who go to state school can't become doctors, that would be a dreadful state of affairs!

Aladdinzane · 14/06/2024 10:39

@ichundich

I find it interesting that every time one makes an accurate point regarding the majority of cases, people decide that they must dispute this with their own individual circumstances. I also find it interesting that whilst Cambridgeshire does have pockets of poverty ( both rural and urban) which add to the lower ratings issue, that it does also have a whole load of outstanding schools, including one of the countries largest and most successful state 6th form centres.

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 10:34

How much revenue do you anticipate making by ironing?

Iwantitidontwantit · 14/06/2024 10:33

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 13/06/2024 19:57

Or take in ironing.

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You beat me too it 😂

DingDongWitchDingDong · 14/06/2024 10:32

Offer improvement to both sectors - it's clearly a vote winner.