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To think if you can no longer afford school fees...

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TiredMumE · 13/06/2024 19:54

that is tough.

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Blarneytalk · 13/06/2024 21:16

TiredMumE · 13/06/2024 21:09

You're an adult. Can't you even debate without swearing? Sign of a limited vocabulary.

Which poster are you answering here?

Willyoujustbequiet · 13/06/2024 21:16

TiredMumE · 13/06/2024 20:35

Do you genuinely think there are spare seats in state school?

I can't speak for other areas but all the schools (outstanding) in my area have spare places.

Blarneytalk · 13/06/2024 21:16

TiredMumE · 13/06/2024 21:15

Think I read they're exempt with ehcp.

Which poster are you answering?

Blarneytalk · 13/06/2024 21:15

TiredMumE · 13/06/2024 21:13

I've worked in Blackpool. I give all my children's old things to children in Blackpool.

No towels, no bedding, no shoes. No child should live like that.

Yet you begrudge displaced families coming to the UK?

TiredMumE · 13/06/2024 21:15

Think I read they're exempt with ehcp.

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Lougle · 13/06/2024 21:14

It's interesting isn't it? What will happen to all the Specialist Independent schools that LAs put children in who can't cope with mainstream? Will they have VAT? That just means that the SEN budget will be even more stretched.

Willyoujustbequiet · 13/06/2024 21:14

Andtheworldwentwhite · 13/06/2024 20:30

Really bloody fed up with comments like this. As it is really an ignorant point of view.

Not every private school is done for the rich and wealthy. My sister runs a very small private school that mostly caters for children who need more help , slight special needs etc. this is going to close her down.

now. There are no fancy things at this school. Everything there is bought 2nd hand etc etc.

parents scrimp and save to send their children there as they know that they will never get the help their children need in a normal state school. And I mean they scrimp and save every penny. I know what these families are going without and doing to actually pay for this for their children and it’s not giving up holidays or cancelling Netflix. It’s way more than that.

And even then the fees are not that huge. But it is a private school so it will be classed as some of the extra posh ones.

these kids will be forced back into the state system where they will either not get the help they need or cost the state schools more. Her business will close meaning everyone who works there will loose their jobs.

but please yes go ahead and be a bitch about stuff u have no knowledge off.

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Why would you presume pupils with 'slight special needs' as you put it will never get the help they need at a state school?

Dc with SEN are at a comp and are absolutely thriving due to the excellent teaching and support. There are outstanding state schools out there and I don't understand this need to paint such a bleak picture.

Againname · 13/06/2024 21:14

TiredMumE · 13/06/2024 21:04

Until recently, we had social housing to spare.

Other counties have sent their homeless her and last 2 years no stock. Very few left.

@TiredMumE That's becoming an increasing issue. Awful for both the displaced people and locals affected by the added pressure on housing.
There's a real need for more social housing. Everywhere it's needed, across the country.

Sorry for going a bit off topic (although I think housing is relevant to school inequality issues).

Snuffkincamehome · 13/06/2024 21:13

Wonkypears · 13/06/2024 21:09

ODFO. Our children are at public school (think Harrow/Winchester/Cheltenham) and none of the parents, including us, are remotely concerned. It’s a little grating but the school has a buffer cos they can now claim VAT back too & have big pockets and so do the parents who all view the school as a community.

Small schools that are at the edge and may have high SEN numbers won’t cope and they will close ….. so it’s those kids, the ones not much richer than yours (or maybe not at all if you made a decision on ethics not cost) that you are punishing…. whilst the elite becomes more elite and the gap and the level of privilege our kids have will just get larger.

Oh and I am voting Labour for the first time so bring it on and carry on feeling smug for now. Cos it won’t last…

People like the OP think all private schools are like Eton.

TiredMumE · 13/06/2024 21:13

I've worked in Blackpool. I give all my children's old things to children in Blackpool.

No towels, no bedding, no shoes. No child should live like that.

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bramblesbig · 13/06/2024 21:13

For some children moving school would be so hard.

I don't understand how some posters can be so gleeful about disrupting children's education due to decisions made by their parents.

Aladdinzane · 13/06/2024 21:12

"Unlike you OP, not everyone lives in a place with excellent state schools, can afford £400k or where there little demand for the super duper cheap social housing etc."

Where do you live that spending 108k in 6 years on high school won't get you a mortgage for a house that's around 400k?

Wonkypears · 13/06/2024 21:12

And if that’s the best response you have it shows limited ability to debate

Aladdinzane · 13/06/2024 21:12

@EwwSprouts

"Yorkshire. Where the parents are professional couples, often senior roles in the public sector. No mega wealthy."

Which bit of Yorkshire?

Plenty of outstanding schools across each riding of the county!

Bunnyasmyname · 13/06/2024 21:11

TiredMumE · 13/06/2024 21:08

I'm not dancing with joy over the policy. Children are resilient. Life changes. They will make new friends.

Never mind the upset and distress it may cause??
Never mind ND kids.

Unlike you OP, not everyone lives in a place with excellent state schools, can afford £400k or where there little demand for the super duper cheap social housing etc.

Like you said yourself, some people don't know how lucky they are.

entiredayfighting · 13/06/2024 21:11

Op people work hard, and each individual situation is different. Some people want to spend their money on sending their kids to private schools. Some people want to spend their money on a Disney Cruise.
Each to their own.
If the VAT ends up being applied, a lot of children WILL actually suffer. Both in private and state sectors.

TiredMumE · 13/06/2024 21:11

@savvy7 so you can afford an extra fifth, brill

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TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 13/06/2024 21:11

State schools were great under New Labour. Music, Art and Drama departments were not a "nice to have" but a fundamental. The Tories have pulled the rug out from under them.

ichundich · 13/06/2024 21:10

Try harder OP; It's getting really boring now.

Snugglemonkey · 13/06/2024 21:10

TiredMumE · 13/06/2024 20:31

Some children won't eat today. Some children in the UK are so poor they have no bed, no toys and no winter coat. And you're worried little Jemima can no longer attend Fluffy Bunny Montessori School. Wow.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Obviously all children should be properly fed, properly clothed, educated. Noone gloats over children being miserable. Oh, you do. What does that say about you?

TiredMumE · 13/06/2024 21:10

Waves hello @ Yorkshire.

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Aladdinzane · 13/06/2024 21:10

@ThisExistence

Totally.

It really isn't that they can't pay, they don't want to pay and are upset about it.

The overwhelming majority will still pay too.

EwwSprouts · 13/06/2024 21:09

Aladdinzane · 13/06/2024 20:51

@EwwSprouts

"Where youlive. And there are other parts of the country (assuming UK) where they really are not."

Who are these people that can afford to spend ( on average) 108 k on 6 years of high school education for one child, who are living in areas where there is not even a good school, 88% of all schools are good or outstanding according to ofsted?

Yorkshire. Where the parents are professional couples, often senior roles in the public sector. No mega wealthy.

TiredMumE · 13/06/2024 21:09

You're an adult. Can't you even debate without swearing? Sign of a limited vocabulary.

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savvy7 · 13/06/2024 21:09

TiredMumE · 13/06/2024 19:54

that is tough.

Can still afford, thanks

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