To think if you can no longer afford school fees...

I mean, come on, who would send their child to a state school if they could afford not to? Generally, the majority are full of feral kids who haven’t been parented properly, and visit the result of lazy parenting on others around them. Wouldn’t we all give our kids the best start in life we could if we could afford it? And if you say you wouldn’t, because of your ‘principles’, then shame on you…. Disclaimer - mine went to state school, and despite the school being the pits, turned out okay. But many don’t.

Oh yay- @Aladdinzane is back in one of these threads defending the policy with the aggression of an mma fighter. Well done you

Then you should count your blessings. When I told my children's state primary that I was moving them to an independant school, 2 of the teachers told me that they would do the same if they had kids and that most days all that they actually did was crowd control. It was an awful place

We were funding it anyway. Oh, and when he was in his leafy prep, you were funding state primaries. So thanks for that. XX

Key words : “where i live” @BIWI

Unfortunately in our area the best state schools are in very very expensive areas and I imagine that is only going up from here.

But as you say yourself, state schools in your area are very good. Not everyone can say that, and perhaps some of those people are the ones who choose private schools. A real case of ‘I’m alright, Jack!’ there, nice…

Nope, those who are pushed out of private schools on account of having to pay 20% more will still be at the top of the public education system. The money not spent on schools can be put into tutors, extra curricular activities and other life encouraging activities. The UK is becoming a poorer society because the poorest have already lost their social mobility, not the better off middle classes. We had friends who instead of sending their daughter to private school which they could just about afford, they engaged her with music tuition, horse riding, girl guides and many other things that enhance a childs future.

https://www.childrenscommissioner.gov.uk/blog/new-statistics-on-education-health-and-care-plans-ehcp-for-children-with-special-educational-needs/

Urgh I just hate the mean spirited crap on here it’s just horrible.
I have dc both in state and in private. The private school is an inner city school - majority of children from a variety of ethnic minority backgrounds, and extremely economically diverse. This will negatively affect a lot of parents and children and it’s sad. The difference it has made to my child is unbelievable- as a middle of the road well behaved child the teachers in her old school barely seemed to know who she was. After I attended the first parents evening for her current school I felt so relieved she was actually being noticed and they had a good grip on where she needs help.
The vat makes little difference to me but I know that is not the case for most and I hate the crowing over it

Sounds like our school is going to be closing as a result of this so you can be really happy for the people who have lost their jobs also - oh what fun!

That Report above is misleading. An EHCP that names a school - hard to get a private one unless a section 47 special school - won’t attract VAT as those schools are v specific. LAs hold the funds for Send provision so obviously aren’t keen to spend more than they have to and will push hard to show that needs can be met in state mainstream with additional resources.
The idea surely is that as more middle class parents go to state schools the nature of those schools will change as parents/pupils will push for good teaching and work with schools to raise overall standards. So in the end everyone gains - which seems a basic Labour aspiration.
Fears over ‘bad’ schools are often fear of the unknown.

I don’t know why you’re so gleeful op. You know this will only serve the elite and enhance the gulf between privately educated and state even further. And why is that? Because the lower end of the private school families will pull out or not even consider it therefore leaving only the even richer and ambitious in these institutions. So long Tarquin, you wretched poor street urchin, and hullo Hugo esq!

As a parent and advocate of dc with SEN and having had years within the system I stand by what I said. I have no motivation to engage given your last couple of comments. Thanks but no.

Just wondering where all those fantastic state schools are that people are talking about? Until a couple of months ago ALL schools were dire according to MN. If they are indeed so wonderful and on a par with if not better than private education why are people so vehemently against the latter?
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4991265-are-there-any-teachers-who-still-like-doing-that-job
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4979549-parents-to-be-asked-to-solve-school-attendance-crisis?page=1
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5025934-super-strict-uk-secondary-schools

Thats government policy. Tory government policy.

Think about it.

Dc have complex additional needs and EHCPs so that comment makes you look rather foolish imo.

No, you really aren't aware.

They don't need to, it's a fallacy to think paying off a deficit to ourselves is the most fiscally sound way run an economy trapped in downward spiral.

(Not a Labour Voter)

As someone else said earlier, the majority of private school kids won't suffer. They will either like us just carry on as frankly an extra 20% is at least fine and budgeted for, or, they will move from a leafy prep to a leafy primary/secondary with the extra going on tutors, music, drama etc etc

The kids I feel desperately sorry for are the ones on bursaries whose parents can't pay the extra and also don't live in the catchment of an ok state school. Our private school has 70% on bursaries because we have been very invested in supporting the brightest in the community. It is such a short sighted and ill informed, politically driven policy

I know. It's nothing like it is over here, as I said.

Sure.

I don't think that stating private schools are charities makes any sense.
But gloating over stressed parents and kids is pathetic and mean.

Also yes, they are prep schools. All have fees at between (depending on age) £5-7k per term. If you were questioning the cost of losing ten pupils, my figures were accurate.