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Smokedcheesyballs · 13/06/2024 18:47

I work in a small environment and on Monday one colleague came in saying she had Covid. She did not look well and said she felt awful. A few of the staff felt that it was unethical that she was in work and potentially spreading a highly contagious virus. She did not wear a face mask.
On Tuesday I came home feeling unwell so did a test and it was positive. I have been feeling terrible and not been in work. I get the impression my boss thinks I'm slacking but I don't think I should be in.
To make matters worse I have now passed Covid onto my husband who is a very vunerable patient (has neuroendocrine cancer).
Basically am trying to ask AIBU thinking that said colleague should not have been a martyr (not sure if correct use of the word) by coming into work not to let the boss down???, and in doing so unnecessarily spreading the virus?|

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Barney16 · 18/12/2024 07:10

I would advise people who worked for me to stay at home if they were too poorly to be in and there was a chance that other people would catch it. It's self defeating, one person spreads it and then more people are off sick. COVID has just become another winter bug but it's very serious. My partner had it a couple of months ago and has been massively affected. Exhausted, off colour generally. It's really impacting his quality of life.

Purpleturtle46 · 18/12/2024 07:03

I am a teacher and actively encouraged to come to work if I am unwell and power through so they don't need to pay for cover. We have to come to work if we have COVID unless we are really too unwell but that would have to be a high bar.

The biggest insult is we are told to stay away from staffroom if unwell but no problem with passing it on to all the kids 🤷🏼‍♀️

x2boys · 18/12/2024 06:52

MissMoneyFairy · 13/06/2024 18:52

Unfortunately you cannot ever prove who you caught it from, personally I think anyone unwell shouldn't go into work but people do, they need the money and some people just don't care anyway and forget how serious covid can be. I guess you just have to have vaccinations, wear a mask and keep yourself and your dh as safe as possible, hope you both feel better soon.

What are the workplace policies ,?my dh ,had ri work with covid despite being vulnerable himself ,
Aa his Employers expect him in covid positive or not .

TemporaryName123 · 18/12/2024 06:49

@Smokedcheesyballs Hello! I know this post is old but I was searching the forum for neuroendocrine cancer and this came up! My husband also has it (diagnosed end of 2022) and interested in chatting with others in similar position, particularly in relation to treatment for carcinoid syndrome treatment as his quality of life has been awful due to this x

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/06/2024 09:15

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 21/06/2024 22:03

I wasn’t immunocompromised either, @Godnotthisagain - and yet long covid has left me almost housebound, unable to do the simple things like cooking a meal or going shopping, or even standing up for any length of time, and unable to do anything that doesn’t involve being driven to the door, then sitting down as soon as possible. No more wandering round stately homes or castles for me. No more dog walking.

Yeah, I’m in a wheelchair and Dd has just tested positive.

And it’s like 2020 again. Masks and tests and isolating. I’m fucked if l catch it again.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 21/06/2024 22:03

I wasn’t immunocompromised either, @Godnotthisagain - and yet long covid has left me almost housebound, unable to do the simple things like cooking a meal or going shopping, or even standing up for any length of time, and unable to do anything that doesn’t involve being driven to the door, then sitting down as soon as possible. No more wandering round stately homes or castles for me. No more dog walking.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 21/06/2024 11:03

Godnotthisagain · 20/06/2024 23:43

I added the last line simply in response to ArseInTheCoOpWindow's quite unnecessarily telling me to fuck off, when all I did was state facts about how covid is treated now by the vast majority of the populace and by the authorities. I said nothing controversial or opinionated and what i wrote was reasoned and factual. I simply did not deserve to be told to fuck off.

I appreciate life is harder from those who are immunocompromised and for that she does indeed have my sympathise, but that doesn't give her the right to randomly attack people who in her opinion simply haven't walked on enough eggshells for her liking.

So she can jolly well suck it up, like a buttercup! 😂

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I wasn’t immunicompromused.

Snd l did say please.

Godnotthisagain · 20/06/2024 23:43

DaizyDee · 20/06/2024 14:33

You go from "You have my sympathies" to "suck it up buttercup" faster than the speed of light.
And here we have the problem. People just don't care about each other any more. It's depressing to see, and as someone whose life has changed for the worse because of Covid, it's frightening to see how quick it's been.

I added the last line simply in response to ArseInTheCoOpWindow's quite unnecessarily telling me to fuck off, when all I did was state facts about how covid is treated now by the vast majority of the populace and by the authorities. I said nothing controversial or opinionated and what i wrote was reasoned and factual. I simply did not deserve to be told to fuck off.

I appreciate life is harder from those who are immunocompromised and for that she does indeed have my sympathise, but that doesn't give her the right to randomly attack people who in her opinion simply haven't walked on enough eggshells for her liking.

So she can jolly well suck it up, like a buttercup! 😂

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 20/06/2024 14:47

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The difference between covid and other infections, in my opinion, @Godnotthisagain, is how randomly long covid can and does strike. You don’t have to be deathly ill/in ICU to get long covid, nor do you have to have a compromised immune system.

I was fairly healthy when I got covid, and dh, who has MS and therefore is classed as clinically vulnerable got it at the same time. Neither of us felt ill - it was like a nasty cold - but I dropped my oxygen sats and ended up in hospital, and now I have long covid, whereas dh sailed through it unscathed.

I am now disabled by long covid - over 2 years after getting ill - I get breathless going to the loo. I can’t stand for any length of time - having a shower is my limit, for standing - and I have to sit down to clean my teeth. I can’t cook a meal on my own, and even sitting at the table, doing food prep with dh helping, leaves me shaking with fatigue. I sleep late every day, and am still exhausted. I go out once a week, to knitting group, but have to be dropped off and picked up at the door. I haven’t been in a shop since I got covid, apart from 2 visits to Boots, to get an eye test and pick up new glasses.

So many people get long covid - and it wrecks lives - and it bears no relationship to how seriously you have the initial covid infection - that is what is SO scary about it.

DaizyDee · 20/06/2024 14:33

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You go from "You have my sympathies" to "suck it up buttercup" faster than the speed of light.
And here we have the problem. People just don't care about each other any more. It's depressing to see, and as someone whose life has changed for the worse because of Covid, it's frightening to see how quick it's been.

Flopsythebunny · 20/06/2024 01:08

TempestTost · 20/06/2024 01:04

There is a reason testing for respiratory viruses isn't a thing. It's because it costs money and makes no difference to what you should do.

So it's a waste of medical resources.

Covid isn't just a respiratory virus though and most of the people still testing rely on the tests to access anti virals.
Or are you saying that people who are cev shouldn't Get the anti vitals because its wasting money?

TempestTost · 20/06/2024 01:04

Carock · 15/06/2024 21:10

testing isn’t stupid. I test. I’m not going to compromise my vulnerable colleagues health, or her very old aged mother.

to echo the poster a few comments previous, your test wouldn’t show positive after being in contact with someone less than 24 hours previous. In every case I’ve had, it’s taken at least 2 days minimum but 3 at the most. I have the pain of teaching adults who seem to not care if they are showing symptoms. I’m glad their class seems to be more important than the health of myself and my vulnerable child, and my self employed income.🙄

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There is a reason testing for respiratory viruses isn't a thing. It's because it costs money and makes no difference to what you should do.

So it's a waste of medical resources.

Godnotthisagain · 20/06/2024 00:48

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Motheranddaughter · 19/06/2024 22:47

I am not testing and just do what I always did
Stay home if I am feeling ill
But can understand that if you are not getting paid if off sick why you might go in

Maddy70 · 19/06/2024 22:41

Boomer55 · 15/06/2024 16:50

My vulnerable husband was fully vaccinated, caught it last year, and died from it. 🤷‍♀️

I am so sorry. How truly awful that must be for you

Maddy70 · 19/06/2024 22:41

Boomer55 · 15/06/2024 16:50

My vulnerable husband was fully vaccinated, caught it last year, and died from it. 🤷‍♀️

I am so sorry. How truly awful that must be for you

Mischance · 19/06/2024 22:16

The whole thing is unclear at the moment.

I have covid and - as I said above - I only know this because I rested because my GD is immune-compromised. However, once I was in possession of that fact, I really felt I could not see my friend who is on chemo, or my other friend who is on immune suppression therapy. I first tested positive 12 days ago and still am.

And I declared the problem to the surgery where I was supposed to be having an ECG, and they told me not to come. I was having this test to decide whether I can continue with one of my heart meds, which is about to run out (and I am about to go away). So this left me in a fix as I would have to suddenly stop it - I needed to speak to a doctor who could advise if this is OK to do. Surgery has no appointments (not even phone calls) for weeks, so they passed me on to a private health care provider who they use. After several calls, and waiting for calls back - the usual stuff - it turns out that the private provider gave the surgery a bollocking for refusing to do the ECG because they cannot turn you away if 5 days or more have passed since the first positive test.

I am now waiting to hear from the surgery .............

And even if I get the ECG, they will say that a doctor cannot see the result and let me know about the meds for a week, and then the surgery (dispensing) will not have the neds there and will have to order them in. I will be back from my holiday by the time all that happens and off the drugs for best part of a week.

Evilspiritgin · 19/06/2024 16:31

My mum was left with problems after a virus, it was the early 80s, I think that these problems lasted just over a year before they slowly started disappearing.

i work with some vulnerable people , the only difference is we work in a supermarket, people cough, splutter and sneeze at us all day , without a single thought or apology , most people just look down their noses

theowlwhisperer · 19/06/2024 16:01

Carock · 15/06/2024 21:10

testing isn’t stupid. I test. I’m not going to compromise my vulnerable colleagues health, or her very old aged mother.

to echo the poster a few comments previous, your test wouldn’t show positive after being in contact with someone less than 24 hours previous. In every case I’ve had, it’s taken at least 2 days minimum but 3 at the most. I have the pain of teaching adults who seem to not care if they are showing symptoms. I’m glad their class seems to be more important than the health of myself and my vulnerable child, and my self employed income.🙄

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It is stupid, or at least pointless, when you ignore the test results for a start. What is the point of testing then?

I also disagreeing with being fixated with "covid". Even if you don't have "covid", and you are showing symptoms of something, you are still dangerous for vulnerable people.

So either everyone stays home until they are symptoms free - which wouldn't remove the time they are contagious pre-symptom but would lower the numbers, or we just carry on as normal.

In an ideal world, it would be blissful to stay home when we are not feeling great, and we would have all access to medical care when we need it. That's not the world we live in though, and we are still luckier than most.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 19/06/2024 15:33

Godnotthisagain · 18/06/2024 23:52

Covid is not really any different to any other illness nowadays. Nobody I know would bother testing and you'd (rightly IMO) get laughed as at paranoid and a bit unhinged if you wore a mask.

However, it's not right to go into work (or any other close contact) environment if you're ill. You feel like some kind of hero getting your work done but all you do is make more staff sick and then they go off, or reduce productivity. Just stay home and get better. SO YANBU at all. Your boss should realise this.

I employ people and I get proper cross if they come in and infect me or my other staff. I'd much rather pay someone a couple of days sick pay.

Please just fuck off. Covid is completely different.

I’m too ill to leave the house after a year of long Covid.

Olease just go away.

DaizyDee · 19/06/2024 15:18

Godnotthisagain · 18/06/2024 23:52

Covid is not really any different to any other illness nowadays. Nobody I know would bother testing and you'd (rightly IMO) get laughed as at paranoid and a bit unhinged if you wore a mask.

However, it's not right to go into work (or any other close contact) environment if you're ill. You feel like some kind of hero getting your work done but all you do is make more staff sick and then they go off, or reduce productivity. Just stay home and get better. SO YANBU at all. Your boss should realise this.

I employ people and I get proper cross if they come in and infect me or my other staff. I'd much rather pay someone a couple of days sick pay.

Have you read even one of the many posts here detailing how Long Covid has ruined our lives? Apparently not. Covid is not mild as long as it's still disabling people by the thousands. It might even get you next time

blondieminx · 18/06/2024 23:54

Ponderingwindow · 13/06/2024 18:58

My workplace bans people from coming into work sick for precisely this reason. It doesn’t have to be Covid, just any communicable illness and you have to stay home.

it’s better for keeping the workforce healthy, protects vulnerable employees, and it protects people with vulnerable family members. They basically have my undying loyalty because of this policy and the fact that I have a permanently vulnerable household member.

I wish everywhere was like this. Ridiculous that public health has been trashed the way it has since “freedom day”.

Godnotthisagain · 18/06/2024 23:52

Covid is not really any different to any other illness nowadays. Nobody I know would bother testing and you'd (rightly IMO) get laughed as at paranoid and a bit unhinged if you wore a mask.

However, it's not right to go into work (or any other close contact) environment if you're ill. You feel like some kind of hero getting your work done but all you do is make more staff sick and then they go off, or reduce productivity. Just stay home and get better. SO YANBU at all. Your boss should realise this.

I employ people and I get proper cross if they come in and infect me or my other staff. I'd much rather pay someone a couple of days sick pay.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 18/06/2024 13:38

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 18/06/2024 13:33

I am so sorry you are going through this too, @ArseInTheCoOpWindow.

It’s shit isn’t it?

Thrn people coming on saying ‘it’s just a cold’

They should spend a day in my life. Dd got tickets to see Taylor Swift last year. I was meant to be going. Could hardly get out of bed,

But l must remember it’s just a cold and I’m obviously doing something wrong….

My car has sat on the drive unused for a yeat

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 18/06/2024 13:33

I am so sorry you are going through this too, @ArseInTheCoOpWindow.