That restaurants should know parmesan isn't vegetarian?

@VJBR , I don't want to eat fake milk, fake cheese, fake meat etc.
Something like 'Feuile de Brick Parcel Filled with Goats Cheese & Caramelised Onion with Mediterranean Vegetables & Pesto Dressing (Vegan Upon Request)' without the cheese isn't exactly appealing.

It's Feuille de brik not Feuile de Brick so it's also not suitable for pedants.

@Velvian
marks and Spencer’s do vegan marshmallows!

also Tesco and Morrisons both do their own range of vegan pesto now - it’s pretty good and half the price of the sacla stuff.

and if you want a vegan Lea and Perrins options Hendersons relish is vegan (and superior!!) x

So a vegetarian could eat honey but not a vegan?

I am pretty sure vegetarians don't eat vegans 🤣 misses point of thread

YANBU its shocking how often dishes labelled as veggie have Parmesan in, and then when you ask if it is veggie Parmesan the waiting staff/ chef don’t know (therefore it probably isn’t if it’s the same as what they are using for non veggie dishes). It’s really bad - everyone has the right to know what is in the food they are eating, regardless of the reason and a chef should know what is in their dishes.

as a general rule I don’t touch veggie dishes with Parmesan (unless at a veggie restaurant) or I ask for it to not be added if it is just on top. I’ve been to the restaurant you’ve mentioned OP, and generally the restaurants and country pubs in and around Huddersfield are bad for veggie options (and impossible for vegan!). - I usually go for a curry or for Mexican!

what also pisses me off is when the veggie or vegan option is when they just remove things from the dish (meat, fish, cheese etc) and don’t replace it with anything else. And then you’re charged the same price for half a meal and you’re still hungry!

And we are not fully 'human' either.
There isn't the hard and fast divide between life forms on earth that some vegetarians and vegans think there is.

Fine for veggies. Not strictly okay for vegans.

https://www.veganfriendly.org.uk/is-it-vegan/avocados/

Parmigiano Reggiano is the only type of parmesan that you can be certain is made with rennet.

Outside of AOC or PDO registered food products you can't be certain of ingredients used in processing. As a rule, rennet is more expensive than other means of curdling milk in cheese production, and manufacturers tend to prefer low costs.

I got vegan marshmallows. I THINK it was Morrison's but don't quote me. Definitely a big supermarket chain.

They were pretty tasteless but nice with some melted vegan chocolate!

Bacteria are not animals.

Since most humans, birds, fish, and animals are partly composed of bacterial matter, maybe we should label ourselves prokaryotic-mammals? We could throw in viruses and maybe even parasites too in the interests of accurate labeling. We are all ecosystems.

What's wrong with avocados for a veggie?

YANBU. As a life long veggie this drives me mad!! I often have to ask for the Parmesan to be removed (e.g off a pizza) and I always worry it makes me look fussy because a lot of people don’t realise it’s not veggie.

Turkish delight doesn’t usually contain gelatine. The texture would be all wrong if it did.

Me. 40 years of this

I absolutely check everything - pudding pots are risky - so are haribo or jelly sweets, cheeses, wine, anything with the potential for gelatin, rennet or cochineal (so red velvet cake for example). I also don’t use leather products. That’s a miniscule example.

yes it’s a pain but after this long it’s just what I do! Processed jelly sweets are no loss to go without , as per puddings - I avoid over processed foods anyway. Flavoured low fat yogurts don’t appeal. Pesto and cheeses you have labels which can easily be checked.

I think the point was that they might fancy what was on the menu were it not incorrectly labelled. I think it is reasonable to expect restaurants to know something about what they are selling, and what food description mean.

Oh, dear. Must I stick to a sweetie-free healthy diet, then? At least it will be good for me.

If you think bacteria are animals then you are sadly deluded.

It's a capitalist system.

Restaurants are not obliged to cater for everyone.

People who don't fancy what's on a menu have the option of taking their business elsewhere.

Then my comment doesn’t apply to you, and you didn’t really need to reply to it :)

The harmless bacteria on all food and cutlery makes it all non-vegetarian.

Rowntree = Nestle. hell will freeze over before I give them money and likewise M+S.

Nope. My food choices have nothing to do with animal welfare.

I don’t want shitty fake cheeze or Beyond Meat burgers.

In better news for vegans and vegetarians, Rowntrees Fruit Gums, Fruit Pastilles and Jelly Tots don’t contain gelatine - I think they used to. They are soft, unlike some other vegetarian sweets like Candy Kittens. Also, Percy Pigs used to have a specific vegetarian range shown by Percy having one green ear, but I think all Percy Pigs are vegetarian now. A quick Google seems to confirm this.

In general this might be because the ingredients lists for some jelly-type sweets include (specifically) beef or pork gelatine. Making them without gelatine altogether opens up their markets to faiths which allow meat-eating but forbid beef or pork products.

I’ve no idea. I’ve not eaten them for years.

(Not sure why it matters to you. I’m perfectly entitled to not eat whatever I want not to eat.)

Lots of cheese is suitable for vegetarians but Parmesan has animal in it. That said, I know plenty of vegetarians who turn a blind eye and eat haribo and desserts with gelatine. Dd adores pigs and hasn’t eaten pork since she was 4. That includes sweets and anything with pork gelatine… beef gelatine is absolutely fine and M&S has a great range of non gelatine alternatives.

Strict labels and competitive vegetarianism isn’t needed. Make your own rules what you’re comfortable eating!