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School Father’s Day sale

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Nimbus1999 · 13/06/2024 07:03

My kids school does a Father’s Day sale every year. I am separated from my ex and we 50/50 parent although our relationship is terrible and we only have the bare minimum communication.

I knew about the sale and asked him to give the 3 kids some cash. He hasn’t. I’m broke so begrudge having to spend cash I’ve put aside for other things for his Father’s Day present. Also have no cash in the house so would have to try to get to a bank before school. But on the other hand, all the kids will be buying their Dad’s a present and my kids enjoy it.

Incidentally, FD has never been a big deal to him. Although court said he can see kids every FD, he said he doesn’t want to.

YABU - Just give the kids some money so they can buy him presents.

YANBU - He should have given them some cash so it’s ok not to pay for his presents.

If it makes a difference, Mother’s Day was always a non event in our house and since splitting, I’ve always given the kids money for my own school gifts.

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Theunamedcat · 13/06/2024 19:47

We had our sale today I bought three bags of fudge one for me one for ds1 and one for ds2 there is no father around so we enjoyed our fudge 😀

Nonewclothes2024 · 13/06/2024 17:24

Seashor · 13/06/2024 07:08

I don’t believe for one minute that the school does this sale.

Why not ? My grandson's school has one tomorrow. Why would OP lie ?

itsgettingweird · 13/06/2024 16:43

Seashor · 13/06/2024 07:08

I don’t believe for one minute that the school does this sale.

It's very common for them too.

Lots of schools around here do.

Mine does but we ask for donations of unwanted gifts and all the kids choose something for no cost due to being a school with high proportion of families in poverty.

SnackFish · 13/06/2024 16:41

Seashor · 13/06/2024 07:08

I don’t believe for one minute that the school does this sale.

well they do, I never knew it was a thing till i seen it on single parent groups im in, our school doesnt do it but doesnt mean others dont ive seen it mentioned loads

ManyATrueWord · 13/06/2024 16:12

There is a sale at my child's school. It used to be donated tat, now it is bought in stuff. The children love it. It was emailed out as a "special person sale" which made me wince. A gift sale where you can buy something for a special person because it is father's day this weekend should suffice. Just because some people don't have one or the other parent in their lives doesn't mean we should wipe out every single mention. Buy or don't buy. It's a ten minute interval in the day.for each class.

Nannyogg134 · 13/06/2024 12:54

Seashor · 13/06/2024 07:08

I don’t believe for one minute that the school does this sale.

My kids' primary school have a mothers day and fathers day secret shop. Everything's £1 and kids wander round and pick some tat or other, it's not that uncommon.

Hinkuy · 13/06/2024 12:53

Nimbus1999 · 13/06/2024 11:56

Managed to scrape together enough for the youngest in loose change and said would take older ones to shop tonight. They seemed happy enough with that. My youngest was sobbing when I only gave her £2 saying it’s not enough to buy any of the gifts so glad I managed to find a bit more (in the drawers, bottom of bag etc!)

Note to self: must keep cash in the house.

Top tip go to your bank and draw out £10 bag of 50ps and £20 bag of £1. Keeps us going for ages for emergency school money!

SchoolQuestionnaire · 13/06/2024 12:48

fiddlesticksohyeah · 13/06/2024 12:45

@SchoolQuestionnaire

Sorry, just seen your update. Yes, that's what I'm meaning. Acknowledge but don't stop.

I agree you can’t and shouldn’t stop occasions such as Father’s or Mother’s Day. But there’s no requirement for it to be celebrated in school.

fiddlesticksohyeah · 13/06/2024 12:45

@SchoolQuestionnaire

Sorry, just seen your update. Yes, that's what I'm meaning. Acknowledge but don't stop.

fiddlesticksohyeah · 13/06/2024 12:44

@SchoolQuestionnaire

I do get your point but I disagree. There is a fine balance between supporting and skewing. I'd rather have the approach that we have Father's Day (or whatever) and for some this may be difficult and that's acknowledged but the celebration remains.

But I respect your view is different.

Starmonkeys · 13/06/2024 12:40

Beamur · 13/06/2024 12:36

There's absolutely no need for schools to have anything themed around Mother's or Father's Day.
It's tactless and not inclusive. The fact that it singles out children who might already be struggling for some reason, or who don't have that parent in their lives is potentially quite cruel.
The world won't stop if schools gave this one a swerve.
My DD's school kept very neutral on things like this and I am thankful for that.

I’ll never forget how upset my school friend was when he had just lost his mum and the teacher brought out blank cards and glitter pens to do our mums Mother’s Day cards

awful

SchoolQuestionnaire · 13/06/2024 12:40

fiddlesticksohyeah · 13/06/2024 12:26

@PotOfViolas

No, I manage life experiences realistically. An uncle died on Christmas Day but Christmas still happens each year. That isn't nasty it's realistic. The world doesn't stop.

I’m very sorry for your loss. As it happens I lost my ddad just before Christmas at age 12. And yes, Christmas still happened.

My dm was bereft but did her best to ensure we had a good Christmas. It was very different that year as we had so many ‘jolly’ visits from lovely relatives bearing lots of gifts, far more than usual. Now that I’m older I know that they didn’t really know what to do but the fact that they did something to show that they were thinking of us and dm meant the world. That’s the sort of thing I’m talking about. You can’t stop the world from turning but it costs nothing to support and accommodate people who are already suffering where you can.

Beamur · 13/06/2024 12:36

fiddlesticksohyeah · 13/06/2024 12:23

@SchoolQuestionnaire

I get that, but it is unrealistic to expect external forces to adapt for each individual experience. We all have bereavement, illness, changing family dynamics. You handle it and support people (including small children) where you can and prepare them but I don't expect the outside external world to adapt because of my personal circumstances.

There's absolutely no need for schools to have anything themed around Mother's or Father's Day.
It's tactless and not inclusive. The fact that it singles out children who might already be struggling for some reason, or who don't have that parent in their lives is potentially quite cruel.
The world won't stop if schools gave this one a swerve.
My DD's school kept very neutral on things like this and I am thankful for that.

SchoolQuestionnaire · 13/06/2024 12:34

fiddlesticksohyeah · 13/06/2024 12:23

@SchoolQuestionnaire

I get that, but it is unrealistic to expect external forces to adapt for each individual experience. We all have bereavement, illness, changing family dynamics. You handle it and support people (including small children) where you can and prepare them but I don't expect the outside external world to adapt because of my personal circumstances.

School should be a safe and nurturing environment. In this day and age I would 100% expect people to understand and accommodate the fact that many children don’t have two parents for lots of reasons.

If a child has actually suffered a bereavement, I would very much hope that anyone involved with that child would have the foresight to understand that making a big fuss about Mother’s / Father’s Day might not be the most empathetic course of action. If asked, I think most of the other pupils would understand that. We’re dealing with children who have suffered a huge loss and potentially suffered a life-changing trauma. Of course we can and should do what we can to minimise their hurt and upset.

PotOfViolas · 13/06/2024 12:27

fiddlesticksohyeah · 13/06/2024 12:26

@PotOfViolas

No, I manage life experiences realistically. An uncle died on Christmas Day but Christmas still happens each year. That isn't nasty it's realistic. The world doesn't stop.

I'm going ignore your nastiness about a small child who'd just lost her dad. Someone as nasty as you isn't worth bothering with. I'll hide the thread.

AmelieTaylor · 13/06/2024 12:26

Seashor · 13/06/2024 07:08

I don’t believe for one minute that the school does this sale.

Why??

it's done at lots of schools.

people donate things & the kids can independently choose a gift.

its not insensitive. The kids who do have a 'dad' in their lives are just as important as those who don't. The kids can buy for Grandad, Uncle or even mum!

fiddlesticksohyeah · 13/06/2024 12:26

@PotOfViolas

No, I manage life experiences realistically. An uncle died on Christmas Day but Christmas still happens each year. That isn't nasty it's realistic. The world doesn't stop.

PotOfViolas · 13/06/2024 12:24

SchoolQuestionnaire · 13/06/2024 12:18

I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you missed that op was talking about a small child.

Yes as adults we have to process difficult situations and understand that the world doesn’t stop turning because we have lost a loved one. I would hope that most adults would have the grace and empathy to understand that a small child deserves a bit more support and doesn’t need to be unnecessarily reminded of their loss.

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PotOfViolas · 13/06/2024 12:23

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What a nasty person you are. You'd probably revel in a child who'd just lost their dad being upset by other kids going off to buy Father's Day gifts during school time. Thank God my child's primary school wasn't as nasty as you are

fiddlesticksohyeah · 13/06/2024 12:23

@SchoolQuestionnaire

I get that, but it is unrealistic to expect external forces to adapt for each individual experience. We all have bereavement, illness, changing family dynamics. You handle it and support people (including small children) where you can and prepare them but I don't expect the outside external world to adapt because of my personal circumstances.

Cesarina · 13/06/2024 12:21

EmberAsh · 13/06/2024 07:09

Its a bit late if the sale is today but I would have queried this with the school when it was announced. You won't be the only family this affects and presumably they have an alternative activity for children who don't have a father in their life at all.
I would suggest contacting the school asking that these events cease going forwards and for today, explain to your children that you're making cards at home after school (if you have the resources to do that).

@EmberAsh I know schools have to raise funds, but, as you say, some children will not have a father in their life. He's either simply absent, or contact is difficult for whatever reason.
So I also agree with @Beamur that it is so tactless of schools to be doing this.

SchoolQuestionnaire · 13/06/2024 12:18

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I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you missed that op was talking about a small child.

Yes as adults we have to process difficult situations and understand that the world doesn’t stop turning because we have lost a loved one. I would hope that most adults would have the grace and empathy to understand that a small child deserves a bit more support and doesn’t need to be unnecessarily reminded of their loss.

OhYoko · 13/06/2024 12:15

Seashor · 13/06/2024 07:08

I don’t believe for one minute that the school does this sale.

Our school does a FD and MD sale and I was discussing it with a friend with kids at a different school who also has a sale only this morning.

AlwaysCloudyAtNoon · 13/06/2024 12:13

SchoolQuestionnaire · 13/06/2024 12:07

I always feel for the dc that have lost or just don’t see a parent on these occasions. Yes they could possibly choose a gift for a gp but it’s not the same.

I’m very sorry for your loss.Flowers

When my DS1 was in primary one of his classmates lost his mother to cancer about a month before Mothers Day. Then the school hosted a 'Mothers Morning Tea' with all the little kids handing round plates of cake. That poor child was present and was beside himself. I recall one of the teachers just cuddling and kissing him while he cried. I've often wondered how the school did not think to suggest he was kept off that day or else managed it differently- but it may well have been they did suggest it and it was not possible for the dad to have kept him at home for whatever reason. But it was awful.

fiddlesticksohyeah · 13/06/2024 12:09

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