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Would you let your child do this or am I over the top?

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KrustyBurger · 13/06/2024 05:55

Currently on holiday in the USA. We are staying at a Marriott so not a motel type set up.

Husband asked our daughter who is 12 to run some rubbish down to the bin next to the lift, she would have to go past about 12 room doors (6 each side).

I said no, il do it as you never know who’s in the rooms and it only takes 5 seconds for someone to open the door and yank her in and you wouldn’t even know which room it is or where she is.

Husband said ok but gave me a strange glance.

Was I being over the top? Or would other parents do the same. It’s nearly 10pm at night here.

Husband's a bit of a clean freak and our bin is full hence not just leaving it.

OP posts:
Starlight1979 · 13/06/2024 10:08

Overthebs · 13/06/2024 09:02

Aaww you’re all out on form today aren’t you - miss quoting what I’ve said ahah.

… On holiday in an unfamiliar place where I wasn’t able to categorically rule out child abduction YES 100% wouldn’t let my 12 year old out of my sight .. better safe than sorry hey.

@Overthebs - How can you "categorically rule out child abduction"???

Are you saying you're happy letting a child out of your sight if you're at home (presumably in the UK)?

Have you not heard of Sarah Payne? Or April Jones? Who were both kidnapped right near their homes?!

poetryandwine · 13/06/2024 10:07

GerbilsForever24 · 13/06/2024 09:54

Also, human trafficking in the context here is very unlikely to be children grabbed in the US. The issue is young people being brought in from other countries and then used basically as slaves in the US. Or indigent/vulnerable people being taken off the street and "sold on". Human traffickers do not, as a rule, prioritise wealthy 12 year old girls staying in Marriot hotels with both of their parents.....

This. I noticed the signs everywhere on a recent trip to America involving several cities. Perhaps it is a legal requirement? I don’t know.

I agree that the signs are aimed at immigrants, mostly irregular ones (that’s why they are in so many languages) and homeless people

sixtyandsomething · 13/06/2024 10:06

@KrustyBurger you had a really bad feeling about it, you didn't let her do it, its done now. No harm, unless you often get really bad feelings and these affect your children's lives. As a one off, I'd just go with my feeling, not because it is likely to be right, but just so I enjoy life more!

fieldsofbutterflies · 13/06/2024 10:05

Feelinadequate23 · 13/06/2024 09:31

I would let her do it in the daytime but would feel bad for her doing it at 10pm. I think I would have been a bit nervous to be out on my own at night at 12 years old, even if it was just down the corridor. I got the tube to and from school every day on my own from year 7 so I was pretty street smart but being out at night is very different to daytime.

But it's a hotel corridor - they're covered in cameras and well-lit no matter what time of day it is.

What is it about 10pm that makes it so much more dangerous than 10am?

easylikeasundaymorn · 13/06/2024 10:04

IDontFeelItAnymore · 13/06/2024 06:04

Whaaaat? You don't let your 12 year old walk along a hallway in a hotel alone?

Sorry but that's one of the most over the top things I've ever heard.

The likelihood of a murderer sitting looking through their wee keyhole at the very time a lone 12 year old walks past, opening the door, grabbing her silently, and getting her into their room never to be seen again is...I'm sure close to zero?!

This!
First of all you've got the chance that a murderer/rapist/someone with bad intentions would randomly be in the same hotel as you....low
Then that they would be constantly standing by their door peering out the keyhole for 12 hours on the off-chance someone passes by....unlikely to the point of absurdity
Then that even if all that happened they would be willing to risk endangering themselves....attacking someone in a hotel would be incredibly high risk, you've got cctv everywhere, close quarters and thin walls for any noises to be overheard, parents would soon realise kid has gone missing and the rooms along their intended route would be the first to be searched, if they didn't kill their victim they'd be identifiable by their room booking, if they did kill them how on earth would they get rid of the body....if someone was so desperate to attack a child there are a million easier ways of doing it...

Really ott!

Starlight1979 · 13/06/2024 10:03

ittakes2 · 13/06/2024 08:58

It is the time of day or night rather (10pm) that would be an issue for me - someone coming up the lift drunk etc.
An option would be to open the hotel door and watch her - but quite frankly I am not sure why your lazy husband would not just do it himself if he wants it emptied so much!

So what if someone is coming out of the lift drunk?!?! Can 12 year olds not witness people being drunk?! Are they particularly dangerous?! What's a drunk person going to do apart from maybe stagger a bit down the corridor?!

"Lazy husband"?!?! I asked DSD to bring her bin down this morning from her bedroom and wash her plates - are me and DP "lazy" for not doing it for her???

Blarneytalk · 13/06/2024 10:01

parentfodder · 13/06/2024 06:13

No I wouldn't either. Statistically it's unlikely anything would happen but why risk it?

Why risk anything ever?

Nicknacky · 13/06/2024 10:00

Laura36TTC · 13/06/2024 09:35

I wouldn’t let her do it. I’d send my husband 😂

Why not? And why wouldn’t you do it?

Starlight1979 · 13/06/2024 09:58

Overthebs · 13/06/2024 08:35

Lol I didn’t say they are the same developmentally- I said it’s the same principle like obvs a 3 year old could get lost/wonder off, but as per child abduction they are still young at 12.

goshhh people on this post are very angry today 🤣

Jesus - another one 🙄

@Overthebs On the (practically non existent) chance that there is a child abductor staying in those 10-12 rooms between their room and the bin, then it would be a bit easier for someone to abduct a 3 year old than a 12 year old, wouldn't it?

I wouldn't make a 3 year old walk to school on their own either. Or go to the shops.

I worry about the kids of some of these posters.

FunkyMonks · 13/06/2024 09:58

I'm with you Op I agree there's being relaxed and letting them do things on their own and then there's sadly too many wrong ones in this world to even be able to take your eye off them I would rather be that mum that has my eyes constantly on my children than the one wailing why why when you didn't so do what you feel is right for your own family not what a bunch of strangers on the net say they would do.

HolyMoly24 · 13/06/2024 09:57

People seem to think that to be grabbed they would have to be waiting by the keyhole watching. Someone could just be returning to their room, unlocking their door and spot an opportunity to pull her in. Ted Bundy and the like were often very opportunistic.

This is obviously still a VERY unlikely scenario still but perhaps more likely than someone lurking by their keyhole.

Magnastorm · 13/06/2024 09:57

Not allowing a 12 year old to walk down a hotel corridor by themselves is absolutely absurd.

That kid is going to turn 18 and have absolutely no initiative or independence whatsoever.

Ifyoucouldreadmymindlove · 13/06/2024 09:54

I can honestly say I don’t think that would have occurred to me.

GerbilsForever24 · 13/06/2024 09:54

Also, human trafficking in the context here is very unlikely to be children grabbed in the US. The issue is young people being brought in from other countries and then used basically as slaves in the US. Or indigent/vulnerable people being taken off the street and "sold on". Human traffickers do not, as a rule, prioritise wealthy 12 year old girls staying in Marriot hotels with both of their parents.....

afrikat · 13/06/2024 09:52

When I was 12 we went on holiday to Florida and I remember going down to the hotel lobby on my own to hire DVDs from a machine and I think my brother and I were allowed to go to the hotel pool on our own. So yes, YABU

Starlight1979 · 13/06/2024 09:51

saraclara · 13/06/2024 07:37

it only takes 5 seconds for someone to open the door and yank her in

Again, for it to take five seconds would mean that someone had been standing next to their door for hours in the hope that a girl would walk by. That's vanishingly unlikely. They'd even need a camera to the corridor from their room to know who was passing by.

I am totally bewildered (and somewhat depressed) at the level of illogicality shown by some posts in this thread.

And so someone grabs her into their room? Then what? The OP mentioned a poster about human trafficking - do you think in the 5 seconds of being grabbed into a room that a potential "baddie" is going to be able to get her out of the room, down the corridor, out of the hotel and into a waiting car - without anyone noticing 😂All whilst OP and her DH are just sat in their hotel waiting for her to come back not noticing the commotion outside?!

Bearing in mind the DD is 12, not 2.

I think some people spend FAR too much time watching Netflix documentaries.

5foot5 · 13/06/2024 09:49

Newbutoldfather · 13/06/2024 07:36

Ridiculously paranoid, there will be cctv everywhere. A hotel like a Marriott will have loads of security too.

And those saying ‘why doesn’t Mr Clean do it’, what on earth is wrong with asking a 12 year old to do the odd age appropriate chore? Are they meant to be princes and princesses, waited on hand and foot?

This is exactly what I was going to say.

A PP said
I wouldn’t ask my son/daughter to do that, not for your reasons though, it’s just not a chore I’d ask them to do.

Why on earth not? Surely taking the rubbish out is one of those easy and necessary tasks any 12 year old, or younger, can be asked to do from time to time. So what if it is the DH who wants the bin empty. It sounds like he was busy doing something else so perfectly reasonable to ask a 12 year old to help out with a simple chore.

Anyway, another person here thinking this is way OTT.

Lancasterel · 13/06/2024 09:49

I’d let them do it because they need to learn independence etc more than be protected from something that there is about a one in billion chance of happening! Good Lord!

HolyMoly24 · 13/06/2024 09:48

I personally don't think you're being that OTT. But then I have a 5 year old so not sure how different I'll feel when she is 12.

I think it's natural to feel extra cautious when on holiday. I can imagine in your situation I would have let her do it if she wanted to but I probably would have watched from the door.

MsMarch · 13/06/2024 09:44

YABU OP. This is a totally normal thing for a 12 year old in a hotel to do. At this age I'd expect them to be going down to find vending machines or to get a drink from the restaurant alone too.

It's like when I see parents letting their children go into public toilets on their own, my stomach always does a flip. Why risk it.

Can you expand on this please @CaravaggiosCat . I mean, there's a big difference between sending a 5 year old boy into the men's toilets at Victoria station alone vs a 12 year old girl going into the woman's toilets at a Pizza Express alone. A blanket, "I think it's dangerous for children to use public toilets alone" is crazy.

Starlight1979 · 13/06/2024 09:41

KrustyBurger · 13/06/2024 06:15

That’s my thinking to be honest. Obviously I know the chances of anything happening is very slim but what if?
Shes 12, we are in a foreign country. Better safe then sorry is how I see it.

"We are in a foreign country"

What's that got to do with anything?! Do you not read the UK news?! Like she's safe on the streets in the UK but not in a hotel in the USA 😂

Honestly people are so, so weird. And your DD will grow up with massive anxiety issues if she's not allowed to walk down a corridor AGE 12.

CaravaggiosCat · 13/06/2024 09:41

I'm with you OP. The only way I would've is if I was discreetly peeping round the door watching so she felt she was doing something independently.
It's like when I see parents letting their children go into public toilets on their own, my stomach always does a flip. Why risk it.

poetryandwine · 13/06/2024 09:40

As the OP says, Marriott is a nice hotel chain.

Even my very protective parents were letting me walk to the ice and vending machines in the Marriotts and nicer Hiltons age 11-12 when we travelled across America.

OP, I too am curious in which countries if any you would deem it safe for DD age 12 to empty the bins as you have described?

GerbilsForever24 · 13/06/2024 09:38

fieldsofbutterflies · 13/06/2024 09:15

This forum is full of women who won't get taxis or walk home from the pub alone, they won't walk through fields alone in broad daylight or let their secondary age children catch a bus at 4pm.

What is everyone so scared of? And are none of you worried about how much you're limiting your lives and the lives of your children? How are they meant to grow up into functioning, independent adults if you won't let them for anything?

I think this is a good point. I'm always shocked by all the women on MN (and now and again in RL) who are so scared of things but perhaps they had paranoid parents and that fear was instilled then. I think I keep thinking that this is a really new phenomenon and that the current generation of children are the first to suffer as a result. But perhaps not.

CracklingLogsGalore · 13/06/2024 09:38

By the time they’re 12 you’re meant to be over the PFB stage OP 😁 but I get how you feel, I’d probably think twice about it but in the end it’s just down the corridor and back.

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