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is this a bit rude? Or just me?

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iamsoshocked · 12/06/2024 17:36

Just got home from work, and DD (19 home from Uni) and 2 friends are at the kitchen table. One friend is veggie, the other has allergy to egg.

I came in, said hello, nice to see you again etc, to which they just replied "Hi". Then I asked if anyone was staying for tea? And they both literally just said "no".
Not "no thank you", or anything, just "no".
I said, "ok, well you're both very welcome to stay in you'd like to." Which was met with silence.

So I walked off.

Rude? Or have I just had a bad day at work?

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NavyTurtle · 17/01/2025 01:16

Idontjetwashthefucker · 12/06/2024 17:53

Visitors? They were her child's friends, they need manners not extra attention, especially as OP was offering to make their tea

This.

Tanjamaltija · 03/11/2024 17:34

If you are asking them whether they are staying, it means that you would have fed them. So a plain 'no' was rude. A 'no, thank you', would have been the correct response.

Teaortea · 03/11/2024 05:50

BardsAreAssholes · 12/06/2024 18:07

Your enquiry didn’t sound like an invitation, it sounded like a question. They weren’t planning on staying, so responded No.

This was my thoughts, especially if any of them are ND. As far as they are concerned they answered the question.

As for walking out and not saying thank you for having them stay, I've noticed as my childrens friends got older, living on their own at uni etc they stopped saying it.
They wouldn't be saying to each other at uni so maybe in their minds they've stayed at your dd's house, not yours?

Butchyrestingface · 03/11/2024 05:28

I came in, said hello, nice to see you again etc, to which they just replied "Hi". Then I asked if anyone was staying for tea? And they both literally just said "no".

That doesn’t sound like an invitation to me. They could have interpreted it as you meaning “oh, fuck, is that more mouths to feed then??” and/or felt it would have been presumptuous to interpret the question as an invitation.

Their lack of response to your next question was rude though.

CalmBalonz · 03/11/2024 05:19

Cheeky sods. Good manners cost you nothing and take you far!

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 16/09/2024 18:21

They might have meant 'No, your daughter has not invited us.' It might have been a tricky situation for them if they thought that she didn't want them to stay.

ButtonsB · 15/06/2024 18:58

Absolutely uncouth, and NOT normal.
They wouldn't be staying lots in my house and I wouldn't ever offer a meal again.
I would be telling your daughter she can be "just how she is" in someone else's space.
Disappointing that your own daughter doesn't realise just how rude her friends are. My children would know that.
Definitely worth a conversation as you certainly don't her showing herself up in a similar manner.
Don't doubt yourself OP

MarkWithaC · 15/06/2024 18:42

Twototwo15 · 15/06/2024 15:27

How do you know? They may have meant it, but when you replied “yes, thank you” were too polite to say actually, I meant please buggef off.

Oh please just give it up.

KimberleyClark · 15/06/2024 15:48

Santina · 14/06/2024 22:02

Are they British, some cultures don't use thank you after saying no?

In French, “merci” can mean no thank you in certain contexts e.g when you are being offered something. Easy to get caught out if you actually want what is being offered!

KimberleyClark · 15/06/2024 15:45

Exactly, OP didn't offer them something or do something for them, she asked a question. The answer was 'no'.

But then the OP said “ok, well you're both very welcome to stay in you'd like to." and was met with silence. Don’t you think that was rude?

Twototwo15 · 15/06/2024 15:27

MarkWithaC · 13/06/2024 08:39

Speak for yourself. I've honestly never come across anyone who's said 'Are you staying for tea?' and meant 'Bugger off.' When I was a kid adults would say things like 'We're having our tea soon, so you'll need to go home.'

How do you know? They may have meant it, but when you replied “yes, thank you” were too polite to say actually, I meant please buggef off.

Twototwo15 · 15/06/2024 15:25

AmelieTaylor · 13/06/2024 10:10

If it was a question, not an invitation 🙄🙄🙄the polite response was 'No I'm not thank you'

no wasn't polite anyway you cut it

Why? Thank you for what exactly if it wasn’t an invitation?

Twototwo15 · 15/06/2024 15:21

SilverBranchGoldenPears · 13/06/2024 08:40

I think people are being brought up without manners now. I find it so strange. A please / thank you should somehow be an automatism by the time they are adults.
I‘ve lived all over and manners in the UK are a cultural phenomenon and frankly it makes me sad that this seems to be dying out. My nieces are in their early twenties and have zero manners - even in very polite company. I get embarrassed for them. I’ve drilled my kids and luckily they aren’t like that. It is not too much to ask for your visitors to treat you with respect and courtesy as you have shown them.

This situation does not indicate anyone being brought up with no manners. If they had been invited to stay, yes, a “thank you” would have been expected, but it wasn’t an invitation. If they had say “thank you” to other people asking the same question, I could imagine they would be met with “that wasn’t an invitation”. To me, it sounds like a hint to go or someone wanting to know if they have to go to the trouble of scraping up two extra portions. Just a simple change to “would you like to stay for tea?” Would have made it clearer all round. Honestly, some of the comments here about “elaborate excuses”. It’s not an excuse, just an explanation of the difference between an invitation and a general question.

browneyes77 · 15/06/2024 07:17

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 12/06/2024 18:03

they were visitors - just look up the definition of this - I'm not having a go at you but just trying to educate you so you don't make the same mistake again.

Know what is rude?

Your response.

Patronising much?

Santina · 14/06/2024 22:02

Are they British, some cultures don't use thank you after saying no?

Chillilounger · 14/06/2024 21:39

' That's fine- we're eating in 20 mins though so start wrapping whatever you're doing up and making your way home'

iamsoshocked · 14/06/2024 19:04

I don't even understand what independentfriend means? Funnily enough, DD's friends are from the same area as us !
Anyway, my faith in teenagers was restored yesterday when a delightful, well mannered friend came over. (it was after tea when they got in, so cooked themselves a pizza). No ambiguous questions/statements required by me!!

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gardenmusic · 14/06/2024 18:47

FFS seconded.

BucketBouquet · 14/06/2024 18:43

independentfriend · 14/06/2024 18:24

Another option: they thought you were being rude by phrasing the question like they were primary school children. Given local variations in meanings of tea/dinner/supper, that specific phrasing of "staying for tea" might have meant staying for a meal much earlier than most adults like to eat, to them.

Oh FFS 🙄😆😆

independentfriend · 14/06/2024 18:24

Another option: they thought you were being rude by phrasing the question like they were primary school children. Given local variations in meanings of tea/dinner/supper, that specific phrasing of "staying for tea" might have meant staying for a meal much earlier than most adults like to eat, to them.

Ilovecleaning · 14/06/2024 17:41

LonginesPrime · 12/06/2024 17:38

It might be rudeness, but I guess you don't know what they were discussing before you walked in - it might have been a really heavy conversation or something and they might have just felt awkward.

Or they might just have no manners.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 13/06/2024 22:45

ScarlettSunset · 13/06/2024 20:06

@gardenmusic
I have not been deliberately obtuse or goody. I am autistic and need direct communication.
I do not make any assumptions about why others would interpret it in the same way or not.

I do however find it interesting that other people are saying that they would not be so rude, yet are so quick to pass judgement and be rude about them in the same paragraph.

I hope that I never came across as that when I offered my perspective and I certainly don't expect people to just know stuff that I was taught, when I myself am found lacking in many areas.

For example, I had no idea that thank you notes were a thing until I read it on here once. I was telling my mum and she said that she was made to do this by her foster parents in the 60's - she never passed this on to me. And I don't remember ever receiving any neither.

But, I will say that once I have learned something whether it's on here or tiktok, then think 'wow another thing that I never considered before, and now I know' and do with that what I will.

EclairsAndDoughnuts · 13/06/2024 21:18

It is so irritating to have neurodiversity offered up as an excuse for being mannerless.
It is almost as bad as saying poor people may have to steal in cost of living crisis.

Both highly insulting to neuro diverse and poor people

I have been very poor and my moral compass nor that of my parents did not switch to allow us to steal. It's a thing called self respect and poverty doesn't erode it.
My sister is neurodiverse and she would not allow that to be an excuse for being mannerless.

Poverty and neuro diverse conditions do not mean that people have to be excused, apologised for, patronisingly 'understood' as if they were a puppy pissing on a rug and they can't help it.

gardenmusic · 13/06/2024 20:18

Mrs. Carson 'Yes I'd have probably said, No I'm heading home, or No I have plans'

If you are answering my question, that's a 'No, I would have probably said...' not yes!

ScarlettSunset I'm not going to continue arguing with you - it derails the thread OK you are autistic - they were not!

Fizzadora · 13/06/2024 20:13

Your response " you are welcome ........" was incorrect. You should have said one of the following:-
I beg your pardon.
No?....
No what?
Don't be so rude
Where are your manners?
DD if your friends can't be civil, they are not welcome here. Please ask them to leave. (This to be said in front of said friends)
You get the drift?