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Can’t get her to school

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Motherhoodishard · 12/06/2024 14:20

Feel like I’m failing as a parent.
Dd, 5, suffers from constipation/being backed up. She’s had tummy aches and nausea on and off for 3 weeks. She’s up and down with it, she can be fine and play etc at some points, but then at other times, has tummy ache, feels sick, has no energy, doesn’t want to leave the house and so on.
She’s become very anxious to go back to school as she gets scared that she’ll feel sick at school and I’m not there or she’ll do sloppy poos etc. I was taking her in and picking up at lunch as she’s worse after eating. She’s now not been in for almost two weeks. School are very aware and have all medical notes off the specialist. I’ve talked to Dd about it lots, I’ve said she should try to go in, I can give her an anti sickness tablet, medicine and any real problems, the teacher will call me and I’ll be straight there (live 2 minutes away) I’ve said she can stay until lunch for a few days at first to get used to going again. She just becomes overwhelmed with anxiety, she cries the night before saying she doesn’t want to go in, then cries and panics in the morning.
After this week, she has two weeks left in school until they finish for summer, she will have lots of lovely activities and the end of year show/graduation. I feel so sad she’ll miss this and her last chance in this class, I also worry if we don’t go back, she won’t want to in September.
She’ll have a v long summer off school and constipation issues will be gone by September.
I’m not sure what to do? Feel so utterly stressed about this, on one hand worried sick she’s missing all this time and on the other hand, I feel guilty for pushing her at times when she cries to me.
She’s bright and i‘m a teacher and can do bits with her over summer, so I’m not concerned educationally.

What would you do? Make her go in or just see how she is and accept she might not return until September if not out of this impacted stage by the end of term?

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Motherhoodishard · 12/06/2024 16:48

@Greengrapeofhome Thank you 💓We’ve informed the school since the start, they have records etc. We did Movicol for 3 months and it was horrendous for us and something I will never use again. I’m luckily able to get her to poo everyday with the system I use and she’s not badly impacted this time (the first time was terrible and took so long to get better when she was 3-4

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Greengrapeofhome · 12/06/2024 16:44

It is quite likely to happen again (my daughter is 9 and has had chronic constipation since she was 1). It flares up and down. She likely needs to be medicated for it. Movicol just draws water into the bowel to help the poo not be too dry and solid. Realistically when disimpacting you need to give more doses of it to get to runny tea like poo stage and then reduce dosage until you’re on a maintenance dose. It can have some side effects at first but is very effective at helping stop constipation. Are you under continence team? I would ask for a meeting with school and put all the medical issues down into a one page profile for your child and ask them to forward it to all staff so they know that your child might need more toilet trips etc. my daughters school have luckily been really supportive. She does go in every day but when we last did disimpaction which was last year she did have to take the week off

Motherhoodishard · 12/06/2024 16:39

@Boomarang Thank you 🙏 I feel so guilty as have been talking to her about it a lot and saying we’ll go tomorrow etc 😢I will just leave it now and tell her to tell me when she feels well enough to go

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Boomarang · 12/06/2024 15:51

I have a son who struggled with bad constipation at this age. I value education enormously.

if she were mine, I think I’d really not push the attendance at her age. Re missing the fun end of term… it’s not fun if she is terrified. She’s 5… she has endless opportunity for fun in her future.

Encourage her, of course, but if you send her against her will and she DOES have accident at school etc it could cause a negative loop and make bigger probs for next year (negative associations etc).

You are really not failing as a parent. You sound the opposite. I feel for you in this dilemma.

For what it’s worth, stewed and blitzed prunes in porridge are good- as is linseed. Gastro often recommend the latter as a constipation aid.

In years to come this will feel so far in the past xxx

Motherhoodishard · 12/06/2024 15:47

@loropianalover I thought that but they’ll be practising songs/positioning etc the next couple of weeks, she won’t know what to do

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Motherhoodishard · 12/06/2024 15:46

@Singleandproud Yes school haven’t been great at all, she gets embarrassed as often feels like she needs to wee or poo and nothing comes out, so she asks to go to the toilet a lot. Tbe assistant said to her a couple of weeks ago, why do you keep asking to go when you don’t need the toilet 🙄 so I had to explain that part to her too
Its just a sad situation
My worry is it will have been ages off school and then a nice class/teacher in September, worried she’ll have been out too long and will be more anxious not to go

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loropianalover · 12/06/2024 15:46

Given her age I wouldn’t stress too much over missing the next 2 weeks. Doesn’t sound like you’re failing at all as you’re clearly doing loads to help her 🩷 maybe you could go with her to watch the show and attend graduation for a few hours? She might feel better if she’s with you.

Motherhoodishard · 12/06/2024 15:43

@Starmonkeys Its sad to miss that time though, especially the end of year graduation show 🥲I’m also worried it will impact badly on her attendance, not sure the teacher fully understands/believes it all despite the notes off the Dr etc. It’s so hard as sometines she’s ok, so can venture out or play with friends a bit, but wants me around with her at all times (normally a very confident, independent child. I suppose people think, well she mustn’t really be ill if she was playing at the weekend and so on

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Singleandproud · 12/06/2024 15:42

What really needs to happen is for her to actually have an incident at school and to see how they deal with it.
Can whoever would look after her take her through what would happen with a doll and roleplay it so she has faith in the system and reduce her stress.

Starmonkeys · 12/06/2024 15:42

Take the stress off and accept she needs to get better and 2 weeks is nothing, let her re join in sep

Motherhoodishard · 12/06/2024 15:40

@soberfabulous We had Movicol the first time around, it’s awful stuff, didn’t help her at all and had really bad side effects. I did lots of research and was able to get her better with daily kiwi, pear and dragon fruit juices and magnesium citrate. It was terrible at the time, this time seems like it will hopefully be resolved more quickly but is very stressful at the moment

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Starmonkeys · 12/06/2024 15:40

ah bless her heart! Can totally imagine why she feels embarrassed

I’d say let her be off until September, like you said it’ll just be fun activities, she’s only 5 not like she’s doing exams etc! You could cause more trauma to her by trying to get her to go in.

Gives you some time to get her sorted, would agree get her scanned and maybe she needs more than natural juices and vitamins xx

Motherhoodishard · 12/06/2024 15:38

@IseultHam She is slightly impacted, but we’re getting there now, she’s pooing everyday, it varies between hard, small poos, sloppy and good, big, soft poos

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soberfabulous · 12/06/2024 15:29

Surely she should be on some medication eg movicol? My DD (aged 10) has had chronic constipation since very young and is on daily movicol. It's the only thing that helps. No amount of prune juice or magnesium will help if it is serious.

IseultHam · 12/06/2024 15:23

If she's doing loose stools are you sure she's not impacted? Sounds like it could be overflow if she's has pain and is nauseous. Has she been scanned? I'd take the two weeks off to try and clear it properly. Has she been referred to Paeds encoporesis clinic?

Motherhoodishard · 12/06/2024 14:48

@Octavia64 I just need to keep an eye on it and make sure she’s not constipated again, I’m doing it with natural juices, magnesium etc and the last time it happened was two years and it’s been managed since then. Hoping I can get her cleaned out and she’ll be back to normal. Just feel sad for her missing it and a bit of a loser mum that my child isn’t at school

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Octavia64 · 12/06/2024 14:35

If she's being seen by a specialist what is the outlook going forward?

If you are scorching this to get sorted fairly quickly I'd be inclined to let her have the time off and try to keep up with reading etc. then if it's sorted by September she won't have the same illness and anxiety.

It really isn't much fun being nauseous and ill at school.

If you are expecting this to be a longer term thing I'd focus more on getting adjustments put in place at school so she is confident she has what she needs.