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Are weddings actually seriously uncool? Naff as anything?

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comoatoupeira · 12/06/2024 09:55

Light-hearted! This is about taste and fashion and society, not about the institution of marriage or the spirituality of the wedding ceremony.

Just reading the thread about the bridezilla who wants her sister to change her haircolour to be her bridesmaid, just the ultimate in deranged and self centered behaviour.

I've been having these twinge thoughts in the back of my mind for a while now, and I'm finally putting it out there: are weddings "over", meaning that they are actually naff and bad taste now?

What I mean is the classic wedding: overdone and over-achieving bride, matching bridesmaids in pastel satin, expensive everything. Men in expensive tailoring but who manage to not look elegant?

I think elopement and queer (in the academic sense) ways of getting married are in? Or just quietly in the registry office and then a party?

Taste arbiters, tell me your thoughts!

OP posts:
DysonSphere · 12/06/2024 19:49

tillylula · 12/06/2024 19:17

I'm getting married next Thursday. We are going to the registry office with our 3 kids and 3 adults in the family. It's 9.30am no music cause I just find it too cringe. In out done. We will dress smart. Probably go for coffee after 😆 big wedding is not for me!

Congrats!🎉 Hope you have a lovely, super day!

Hope the weather is good too!😬

comoatoupeira · 12/06/2024 19:36

From Wikipedia page “Queer” for those who asked

Academia
Main articles: Queer studies and Queer theory
In academia, the term queer and the related verb queering broadly indicate the study of literature, discourse, academic fields, and other social and cultural areas from a non-heteronormative perspective. It often means studying a subject against the grain from the perspective of gender studies.

Queer theory

https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/mobile-html/Queer_theory

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MoltenLasagne · 12/06/2024 19:33

So many of these sneery posts are just desperate to call big weddings "common" but know that's a little too on the nose.

I have a big family, so it was always going to be a big wedding because for us it's about joining two families and everyone celebrating together. I couldn't have had a 10 person wedding without genuinely upsetting all my favourite people.

We looked at the quirky field marquee set up but once you hired the chairs and the crockery and the portaloos it was going to be extortionate. Instead we went for a hotel that could seat 100, provided lots of good food and cheap alcohol and does them day in, day out.

My photos probably look like 50 other brides that got married there that year, but I've got ones of my Dad dancing with DH's Grandma, and my cousins' kids skidding on their knees so I don't really care. And fortunately, if any of my guests thought that my wedding was basic or boring or naff, they had enough common decency to keep it to themselves.

tillylula · 12/06/2024 19:17

I'm getting married next Thursday. We are going to the registry office with our 3 kids and 3 adults in the family. It's 9.30am no music cause I just find it too cringe. In out done. We will dress smart. Probably go for coffee after 😆 big wedding is not for me!

AgathaAllAlong · 12/06/2024 18:35

comoatoupeira · 12/06/2024 10:20

Also, maybe this is a bit of a stretch, but the white dress thing feels a bit weird in the context of the feminist moment we're in? Post me-too, and since so much discussion is about domestic violence and abusive relationships, the very feminine, pouffy bride feels a bit weird? Or child like? Like a potential victim? Or a victim of their own fantasy? Or maybe this is just me spending too much time reading Mumsnet (I can't imagine the very witty and smart posters on Mumsnet in the pouffy dress!)

I don't agree with this. It reads as almost hysterical victimisation of women. Why are you reading child and victim into traditionally feminine coded dresses? Speaks more to your own misogyny than the wedding industry's. You can't like frills and be witty? You can't like lace and be smart? You can't like pouffy dresses and be an independent feminist? Why on earth not?

Weddings are a ritual. It doesn't make you a stupid child victim to want to participate in the ritual, in the way that is traditional. Of course it's also completely fine to opt out of the traditional way. It's amazing that now people get to choose their own wedding. At the end of the day, authentic weddings always feel better. The couple who wanted to elope but get sucked into the whole big white wedding probably won't be happy, and the wedding won't be great. But the couple who actually wanted the tradition but feel pressured by trends to have a big unique outdoor barefoot circus themed wedding also won't be happy, and the wedding won't be great. The best weddings are the ones that reflect the people in them.

trainboundfornowhere · 12/06/2024 18:29

The bank offered DH and me a £10,000 wedding loan. We didn’t take it but it’s a scary thought with how many couples do. We had the day we wanted though married in the local parish church and our wedding cars were things like a Mercedes E Class. As the cars are modern and not vintage they use the cars for other things too so it cost us less than a third of the cost of the vintage cars.

Ireolu · 12/06/2024 18:16

My most stylish friend is getting married in August. It's a registry and meal for guests in a central London restaurant affair. No hall, no bridesmaids, no flower girls etc no fuss very informal type of thing. I am looking forward to it.

Treestumpp · 12/06/2024 18:13

hellywelly3 · 12/06/2024 18:11

I mean the Bride and groom things like expecting people to pay for expensive hen/stag parties etc

Ahh now in my opinion those parts are better than the wedding itself!

hellywelly3 · 12/06/2024 18:11

Treestumpp · 12/06/2024 18:07

Do you mean the guests or the bride?!

I mean the Bride and groom things like expecting people to pay for expensive hen/stag parties etc

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 12/06/2024 18:07

TheBestFriend · 12/06/2024 17:09

What % of people actually still get married?

In my circles nobody has had a wedding and we are getting to 40 soon. ‘My circles’ being couples where the woman is equal/ high earner in the the relationship, they’ve been together for years and no interest in marriage, definitely not a wedding. Or they’ll do a registry office quickie if kids involved. Definitely no hen do etc. So I always draw a blank when people start talking about ‘the wedding season’ etc as I’ve never experienced my friends getting married.

Been to probably 4 weddings in my life of cousins/ work mates and my impression has been that people that ‘do’ weddings are from traditional families one way or another, eg either quite posh or quite working class, and it’s important for the parents/ wider family.

Anyone else or just me where nobody they’re friends with would have a wedding? In my head they were over some time ago but I hear they still seem to be a popular phenomenon.

I'm a similar age to you. All my friends are (or were) married, bar one but her situation is complex and she definitely doesn't want to (and shouldn't) marry him.

My "generation" of our family are all married. My older cousins have children who are starting to get engaged. All my aunts and uncles are or were married.

I only know of a couple of people at work who are in a relationship that is not at least heading to marriage.

All of my school friends (small circle, rarely catch up now so not included in the other friends) are married.

Obviously this is only my experience, but I think it's still very common to get or want to be married.

Treestumpp · 12/06/2024 18:07

hellywelly3 · 12/06/2024 18:06

I think a lot are more interested in the wedding and all the attention than the actual marriage.

Do you mean the guests or the bride?!

hellywelly3 · 12/06/2024 18:06

I think a lot are more interested in the wedding and all the attention than the actual marriage.

Allofaflutter · 12/06/2024 17:59

Saschka · 12/06/2024 17:57

Yeah that was basically our thought process! 😂

It’s a classic for a reason! 😂

Saschka · 12/06/2024 17:57

Allofaflutter · 12/06/2024 17:00

Free alcohol soothes all wedding sins!

Yeah that was basically our thought process! 😂

innerdesign · 12/06/2024 17:40

@Hoolahoophop But it wasn't what I had pictured. I was just too young and insecure and not talented enough at event planning to make what I wanted a reality. I think this is why so many weddings are samey.

I wanted something a bit different, but unless you DIY everything (likely to be even more expensive and huge amounts of hassle), it's not really possible. We picked a barn venue so it was a bit different, a bit more laid back, but there were things I wanted (like rolls and sausage during the drinks reception, because people are always starving by dinner) that they couldn't do so we had to have canapes (£££!) and we compromised on bread going on the tables before the speeches. The wedding coordinator steered us away from anything too original, and do you know what? She was right, with hindsight. Weddings are formulaic for a reason, because it works. Yes it's a bit samey but it's better than not getting fed/things not running to time/there being major fuck ups.

TheBestFriend · 12/06/2024 17:28

Ratisshortforratthew · 12/06/2024 17:20

Me!! Never experienced this “wedding season” people speak of and frankly if the people I knew were having weddings that would cost a lot (abroad, in inaccessible places necessitating a hotel, demanding money, expensive hen dos) I’d just decline. I’ve declined a couple recently from less close friends. The people in my life that I really like though have similar values and opinions to me and aren’t fussed about marriage, think weddings are naff. I’ve honestly never seen a wedding dress I didn’t think looked ridiculous I’m afraid

Thank you for making me feel normal 😂

Growing up I used to think these big multi-day weddings were just something that happened in American films or that extremely high profile people would have. Don’t think anyone in my family ever had a big wedding until this generation.

EachandEveryone · 12/06/2024 17:20

PontiacFirebird · 12/06/2024 15:08

Couldn’t agree more. I would also add to the positive list:
Small children knee sliding across the dance floor
Big cake
Plenty of booze
and to the negatives:
Hog roast Envy
Portaloos
Freezing marquee

I went to a wedding at Mar Hall and it was just the best. I was expecting it to be posh and up itself but, you're right, you cant beat a good Scottish wedding and you just cant avoid The Proclaimers😃

Ratisshortforratthew · 12/06/2024 17:20

TheBestFriend · 12/06/2024 17:09

What % of people actually still get married?

In my circles nobody has had a wedding and we are getting to 40 soon. ‘My circles’ being couples where the woman is equal/ high earner in the the relationship, they’ve been together for years and no interest in marriage, definitely not a wedding. Or they’ll do a registry office quickie if kids involved. Definitely no hen do etc. So I always draw a blank when people start talking about ‘the wedding season’ etc as I’ve never experienced my friends getting married.

Been to probably 4 weddings in my life of cousins/ work mates and my impression has been that people that ‘do’ weddings are from traditional families one way or another, eg either quite posh or quite working class, and it’s important for the parents/ wider family.

Anyone else or just me where nobody they’re friends with would have a wedding? In my head they were over some time ago but I hear they still seem to be a popular phenomenon.

Me!! Never experienced this “wedding season” people speak of and frankly if the people I knew were having weddings that would cost a lot (abroad, in inaccessible places necessitating a hotel, demanding money, expensive hen dos) I’d just decline. I’ve declined a couple recently from less close friends. The people in my life that I really like though have similar values and opinions to me and aren’t fussed about marriage, think weddings are naff. I’ve honestly never seen a wedding dress I didn’t think looked ridiculous I’m afraid

TheBestFriend · 12/06/2024 17:09

What % of people actually still get married?

In my circles nobody has had a wedding and we are getting to 40 soon. ‘My circles’ being couples where the woman is equal/ high earner in the the relationship, they’ve been together for years and no interest in marriage, definitely not a wedding. Or they’ll do a registry office quickie if kids involved. Definitely no hen do etc. So I always draw a blank when people start talking about ‘the wedding season’ etc as I’ve never experienced my friends getting married.

Been to probably 4 weddings in my life of cousins/ work mates and my impression has been that people that ‘do’ weddings are from traditional families one way or another, eg either quite posh or quite working class, and it’s important for the parents/ wider family.

Anyone else or just me where nobody they’re friends with would have a wedding? In my head they were over some time ago but I hear they still seem to be a popular phenomenon.

LifeofBrienne · 12/06/2024 17:06

Hiddendoor · 12/06/2024 13:26

Weddings that are timeless and fun nd tend to be enjoyed involve:

  • lots of friends and family
  • photographs (for future reminiscing)
  • start early, canapés and drinks between ceremony and meal while photos taken
  • sit down meal with table plan so guests don't have to think where to go
  • good ceilidh
  • cheesy disco so everyone gets a dance
  • goes on till late
  • ends with 500 miles and then Loch Lomond

Weddings that are naff generally have

  • colour themes for guests
  • attempts at being quirky or unique like barefoot brides or force their guests into yurts as accommodation
  • buffets

If you try and fight against what weddings are, they end up naff. Weddings are a little about the ceremony but mostly a way of getting your friends and family in one place for a big fun cheesy dancing party.

I feel quite nostalgic about the wedding-fest of my late 20s / early 30s. Because half a dozen times a year I got to go to a big party with friends, many of whom by then lived in different parts of the country, catch up, drink, dance to cheesy music, drink some more. What’s not to like?

And they were nearly all based on the bog standard traditional model - church/posh venue, white frock, canapés and fizz, meal, speeches, disco - with the occasional change to the standard formula according to taste.

Ratisshortforratthew · 12/06/2024 17:06

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 12/06/2024 10:20

OP how old are you? Are you past the stage when your friends all started getting married?

in my experience, individuals get “over” weddings when they’ve been to a lot. When there’s been a couple of years since they settled down (either getting married or deciding to have dcs unmarried). It’s really hard if you’ve moved beyond that life milestone to find the excitement for a wedding. when you’ve only been to two or three weddings as an adult, they can seem individual or still exciting, when you’ve been to 20+ it starts to feel formulaic (because really there’s only so much “different” you can do when you need the basic wedding ceremony, you need to feed and water your guests and there’s an expectation of dancing of some sort).

This is Mumsnet - most posters are parents or trying to become parents, therefore they are on the next life milestone, the “settling down” stage is done and doesn’t seem as important. I can see why if you’ve been to a lot of weddings and that part of your life is done, it could seem naff. But it’s interesting how many women who did have the big day, who did throw the big party, later decide it’s tacky for someone else to do that.

It’s all been done over and over. Great, but not by this bride and groom. Every wedding day is unique because it’s a brand new hopeful couple, and every wedding is the same because ultimately however the decorations or celebrations change, at its centre is a legal contract.

I don’t think it’s that. I’ve thought weddings were tacky since I was a kid. I’ve been to about 3 in my life because I’ve managed to curate friends with similar disinterest in weddings! The last one I went to was fairly traditional although quite low key (no chair covers or favours) and even that felt like a glorified school disco.

Treestumpp · 12/06/2024 17:05

Allofaflutter · 12/06/2024 16:59

Nope! Not even crisps at the bar by the time we realised. No shops nearby. Which is why people went home. It was weird no structure. All afternoon was just no music, no food, no structure, no speeches, nothing but kids playing with sumo suits.

Shocker. I'm sure ive seen people order pizzas to weddings, in the warmer months so you can scoff it outside somewhere without offending the bride. The preferred formula for a guest is sit down meal earlier on then buffet for the evening part. And yeah, free booze solves everything , seriously that farmers wedding i went to was mint - food and reasonably priced booze around the clock. Made sure everyone was in good spirits.

Allofaflutter · 12/06/2024 17:00

Saschka · 12/06/2024 16:59

Yep, we organised ours and it was definitely ”cool” and very “us”, but organising it was basically a second full time job for six months, and we definitely fucked stuff up because we’d never done anything like it before.

We didn’t order enough food - we had a buffet but under-ordered, and didn’t think to provide food later in the day. Plus we could really have done with an extra pair of hands to direct things like the wedding cake being brought out, and directing people towards the food - some people missed the buffet altogether because they were outside all afternoon and didn’t realise it was being served. Luckily we were in central London so they could pop out for food, but I still felt pretty bad. We did have plenty of free alcohol and great music, and a pool, so people had fun, but it could have been even better and much less stressful for us if we’d ever run an event before.

Free alcohol soothes all wedding sins!

Saschka · 12/06/2024 16:59

Hoolahoophop · 12/06/2024 16:38

Trouble is weddings are often done when you are still young and still learning about yourself. I wanted to marry in my local church and have the reception down the hill in the village hall.

Maybe a barn dance because they are fun and everyone can get involved.

But the village hall wasn't big enough once we had our guest list, and our parents guest list. Then we wanted to keep everyone happy so added elements important to the family.

So we used a local golf club, and their wedding planner got involved, (because planning a huge event takes time and we were both working full time in demanding careers) and it spiralled.

It was lovey, church wedding, really good sit down meal (as the chef was excellent and created a menu for us) then disco with tons of friends and some kind of evening food. But it wasn't what I had pictured. I was just too young and insecure and not talented enough at event planning to make what I wanted a reality.

I think this is why so many weddings are samey.

Yep, we organised ours and it was definitely ”cool” and very “us”, but organising it was basically a second full time job for six months, and we definitely fucked stuff up because we’d never done anything like it before.

We didn’t order enough food - we had a buffet but under-ordered, and didn’t think to provide food later in the day. Plus we could really have done with an extra pair of hands to direct things like the wedding cake being brought out, and directing people towards the food - some people missed the buffet altogether because they were outside all afternoon and didn’t realise it was being served. Luckily we were in central London so they could pop out for food, but I still felt pretty bad. We did have plenty of free alcohol and great music, and a pool, so people had fun, but it could have been even better and much less stressful for us if we’d ever run an event before.

Allofaflutter · 12/06/2024 16:59

Treestumpp · 12/06/2024 16:53

Food is a very good point. Can get expensive if you're feeding people twice but eating at 9pm for a 1pm wedding is stupid. No wonder people left earlier. I assume there were facilities on site or nearby?! @Allofaflutter

Nope! Not even crisps at the bar by the time we realised. No shops nearby. Which is why people went home. It was weird no structure. All afternoon was just no music, no food, no structure, no speeches, nothing but kids playing with sumo suits.