GE Poll: Why are you voting Labour?

Maybe when the Labour Party manifesto has been released we will know a bit more. As it stands we have ample evidence of the Tory’s disgraceful morals, management, and leadership so naturally that is the evidence base most people are using to make their decision.

Those of us over the age of 40 also remember being adults under a Labour govt, which was not perfect but it was a world away from this level of absolute shittery

With your clarification that I should choose the first option if both apply, I suppose I'll go for "I really believe in KS, Labour and their policies".

But the idea that I can either "really believe in" Keir Starmer or not is a bit odd in itself: he's a human being, not a religion. I can only judge him relative to other human beings. There are many other people I'd prefer as PM, but my assessment is that he'll do a better job than Sunak. Thanks to the limitations of first-past-the-post voting, that's effectively the choice I have.

I'm not.
Never have.
Never will.

There's a sleight of hand going on though. Labour has also said that they will make it far easier to get a Gender Recognition Certificate granting a change to "legal sex". Unless they reinforce the Equality Act to clarify that the protections it contains relating to sex mean "biological" sex rather than "legal" sex (as was recommended by the Equality and Human Rights Commission last year and belatedly proposed recently by the useless Tories) it will be self-ID in practice, just not in name. Labour has already said that it is opposed to such a change to the Equality Act. Instead the party has suggested that a single GP could sign off on a GRC and that the granting of that would be on the basis of a person's self-identification.

When the Gender Recognition Act was passed, it was made clear throughout the debates that it was designed for a tiny cohort of people in the country (around 5000 adults, primarily male) who suffered from distressing gender dysphoria and who didn't have sufficient legal rights and protections under the law of the time. But the law has moved on considerably since then. Those who transition now do have those rights and protections already even without a GRC.

I'll wait to read the manifesto detail in case things have changed in the past few weeks but based on recent performances and pronouncements from the Labour leadership I expect it to be a con trick and they intend to effectively introduce self-ID by the back door. They've just learned from the debacle of the Greens and SNP in Scotland not to call it that.

I was a Labour party member until last year but resigned my membership for a number of reasons. They have got steadily worse since Keir Starmer became leader. I despair of UK politics. I do not like the Tory's at all and they have made life in the UK a lot worse since coming to power in 2010. There seem to be no parties and represent my views at all. I will vote and will probably hold my nose and vote labour although I dislike our local candidate, a right wing careerist who the PLP shoehorned in as our candidate even though the local party had an excellent local candidate. They think we are stupid not to see exactly what they are doing.

I think the SNP will get in here again although they may be the worst party of all, given they think it is ok to put male rapists in women prisons and a strong criminal element right at the heart of their party.

I'm kind of at the point now where I feel like I may as well not vote at all, I will but it feels very futile, like a game of pin the tail on the self serving fool.

Why do you even have to ask? Do you not live in this country? Anybody with a single brain cell wants the tories out. Labour is the only party who can win. Anything else doesn’t matter that much although actually I do support most labour policies and KS.

Both!

Because I want the Tories out and because I like my current Labour MP

Churchview That was a year ago, they recently announces they would make getting a GRC easer (that gives people a new birth certificate and identity), and scrap the spousal exit clause from the Gender Recognition Act which allows the spouse to annul the marriage before their partner fully transitions.

Its broadly the same thing. I hold left wing views so will always want a right wing government out and a more left wing government in. The fact that this particular right wing government have made a particularly poor job of executing their responsibilities makes me more enthusiastic to see the back of them, and my support for some of Labour's policies make me particularly keen to see then take over. But I'm a labour voter from values and ethics and individual leaders or policies will never sway me, provided the party doesn't stray too far from its core principles.

I want the conservatives out, but I won't be voting for labour.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66299705

Me neither. I shan't be voting Labour or the Tories.
I've seen how self ID has worked out for women and safeguarding in other countries, and I'm disgusted with Labour for insisting we all have to accept it.

Neither. I shan't be voting Labour or the Tories.

I know the majority of politicians are so far removed from the common man they struggle to understand everyday life, expenses and worries.....but Rishi and recent Tory leadership,deputies etc are now at "Let them eat cake" levels of ignorance. It's beyond a joke.

Both reasons for me.

I remember how much better life and the country was when Labour were last in power and then I look around me now and despair of the state we've been reduced to after 14 years of Tory systematic destruction.

Labour's policies and ethos align most closely to mine.

"When you're not doing so well, vote for a better life for yourself. If you are doing quite nicely, vote for a better life for others." Irving Welsh.

I much prefer Labours policies to the Tories. However, I don't love them and would add a whole lot more to get my perfect policy list
This would include:
Reinstating the £28 Billion green economy drive.
Aim to rejoin the single market.
Complete overhaul of social care by integrating with the community sector. Integrate with NHS
Set up immigration station in France
Increase aid spending
Re-nationalise water, rail, utilities.
Increase the tax brackets but increase the tax to the top 5%
Massively reduce the prison population (no jail time for anyone that would have got a 2 year sentence or less, decrimalise drugs).

I could go on and on

Both! My local MP is a brilliant woman with principles and humanity. Kier Starmer lacks charisma but as my Grandma described her thoughts on meeting my Grandpa, to whom she was happily married for 60 years, "he seems steady; he'll do." Hu bloody rah for a steady man!!

The poll presents a false dichotomy. In deciding how to cast my vote, I must select from the available options. I will be voting Labour because I believe in KS, Labour and their policies more than I believe in RS, the Conservatives and their policies, and as a consequence I want a Labour government and don’t want a Conservative one.

I like what I know of their policies- looking forward to seeing the manifesto tomorrow. I like the fact they seem moderate and sensible after all these years chasing nonsense ideology from the Tories. Also my MP is the appalling Therese Coffey and Labour are best placed to get her out- I would probably vote tactical Lib Dem if they had a better chance than Labour.

I believe in the majority of their policies, and I like my local candidate.

And what uneducated drivel have you been reading to come to that conclusion?

He’s going to be far better PM than that tiny evil man we’re currently stuck with.

I would never vote for Labour/Starmer. He would make an incredibly poor PM.

Sir Starmer has integrity.