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Peeping through opaque windows?

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ThingsPeopleDo · 11/06/2024 17:09

A senior male DF lives in a row of maisonettes above shops. The end of the walkway overlooks the garden of some other flats. When short of breath, he sometimes pauses and looks at the plants in that garden for a couple of minutes (certainly no longer and there are no other gardens nearby to look at). A woman resident there complained to DF's female friend that he stares into her window, making her uncomfortable. A couple of male residents allegedly support her.

Those windows have an extremely dark heat-reflective glass which you just can't see into from outside. You couldn't see if anybody was inside. DF doesn't know the complainant or which flat she's in. He just saw dark glass and didn't think about being seen from inside and ppl thinking he was peeping. He has no intention of looking into windows. His very highly valued female friend of several years (not GF) takes the woman's side (been friends with her for 1-2 months). She says he shouldn't even use those steps down to ground (there are others).

Has DF done wrong, and are either/both women being unreasonable? He doesn't like upsetting ppl.

YABU - He shouldn't look into the garden at all.
YANBU - He may be naive but hasn't done anything pervy or wrong. His friend should support him.

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5128gap · 11/06/2024 17:27

If he doesn't like upsetting people he needs to stop staring out of that window. Just because he knows he's not peeping and can't see anything, doesn't mean he's not unerving women. It doesn't sound like a big ask to stop doing something minor for him that's causing women discomfort, so the decent and easiest thing to do is surely just stop. Tbh it's in his interests as now he's been told if he carried on, it will seem deliberate and if he gets himself a label, people will not be kind.

Allofaflutter · 11/06/2024 17:27

I’m all for women being comfortable but if he can’t see her and she can’t see if he is there why is she complaining that he might be there but still can’t see her?

Allofaflutter · 11/06/2024 17:25

So both windows have one way glass film? So he can’t see her and she can’t see him? wtf is anyone complaint about then. If he was able to see her and she could see him then I could understand her being uncomfortable but if he can’t see her and she can’t see him I’m confused as to why there’s a problem.

EatCrow · 11/06/2024 17:24

It’s very sad that his close friend has taken the woman’s side OP. Why would she do that?

Allofaflutter · 11/06/2024 17:23

ThingsPeopleDo · 11/06/2024 17:21

Perhaps I didn't make this clear. With dark heat-reflective glass you can see out to a brighter exterior but not into the darker interior.

DF and I both thought everybody knew this.

Sorry i thought you meant his window had the one way film. If she has the film then wtf is she complaining about. It’s the same as closing her curtains.

ThingsPeopleDo · 11/06/2024 17:23

Allofaflutter · 11/06/2024 17:18

Maybe she needs the one way film to make her feel safer?

All the flats have identical glass.

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ThingsPeopleDo · 11/06/2024 17:21

Allofaflutter · 11/06/2024 17:18

If she can’t see him, then she has made up a complaint surely? Does she feel that someone is watching her because she can’t see in the window? It seems strange to complain when you literally can’t see if someone is watching.

Perhaps I didn't make this clear. With dark heat-reflective glass you can see out to a brighter exterior but not into the darker interior.

DF and I both thought everybody knew this.

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Allofaflutter · 11/06/2024 17:19

if He’s not stopping there anymore is she still complaining?

Allofaflutter · 11/06/2024 17:18

Maybe she needs the one way film to make her feel safer?

GennyLec · 11/06/2024 17:18

Your choices are not really relevant.

His actions made a woman uncomfortable, she mentioned it, he has modified his behaviour, end of story.

Allofaflutter · 11/06/2024 17:18

If she can’t see him, then she has made up a complaint surely? Does she feel that someone is watching her because she can’t see in the window? It seems strange to complain when you literally can’t see if someone is watching.

ThingsPeopleDo · 11/06/2024 17:15

Precipice · 11/06/2024 17:13

It doesn't matter much why he's there or what he can actually see. The woman living there has said his behaviour is making her uncomfortable. He should avoid stopping by this row.

He doesn't stop there since the complaint.

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Precipice · 11/06/2024 17:13

It doesn't matter much why he's there or what he can actually see. The woman living there has said his behaviour is making her uncomfortable. He should avoid stopping by this row.