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10 year old using the tube alone?!!

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LIKley · 11/06/2024 12:55

DD is in Y6, her school has kids from all over London and we are used to her friends not being super close geographically.
DD’s best friend is one of the youngest in their year, so only 10 right now.

Planning a sleepover for the girls as they won’t be at the same school next year, I asked the girls parents how she will be getting to ours and was asked if I could meet her at my nearest tube station, I assumed a parent would be meeting me there with her but no they intend to let their 10 year old get the tube alone + 2 line changes one of them either at Victoria or Green Park which if you know London are hardly going to be quiet and easy to navigate at 10.

Parent insists it’s fine and the girl knows the stations well and has been using one of them alone to get to a hobby all of Y6!!

Now I know know, most kids will be getting the tube to school alone in just a couple of months but the thought of asking a 10 year old to navigate a busy station like Victoria on her own makes me feel ill!

AIBU to say to the parents that I’ll just pick her up from there house? Equally AIBU to think it’s bloody absurd to have a 10 year old make this journey?

OP posts:
ButterCrackers · 16/06/2024 19:45

ShowerOfShites · 16/06/2024 19:43

How is she 10 if she's coming to the end of the school year?

She must be either 11 or just about to turn 11.

Either way, every time I take the tube there are tonnes of school kids that age, getting themselves to and from school.

This kid will be travelling outside of school hours so there might not be many others of her age using the tube. This makes her more visible which might be a problem but I’d be concerned about that.

MrsPinkSky · 16/06/2024 19:44

HeidInTheBaw · 16/06/2024 18:56

Nooooo! Nadda Nadda Nadda Noooo Wayyyy! Helicopter Granny here but really? A child of 10 using the tube on her own? I just can’t comprehend it, it’s terrifyingly dangerous.

More like Dramatic Granny 🙄🙄

ShowerOfShites · 16/06/2024 19:43

How is she 10 if she's coming to the end of the school year?

She must be either 11 or just about to turn 11.

Either way, every time I take the tube there are tonnes of school kids that age, getting themselves to and from school.

Mimimimi1234 · 16/06/2024 19:40

Technically they could easily take on getting the tube from an ability point of view. Whether I would feel comfortable knowing how many weirdos are on the tube is another matter. So actually, based on the weirdos I have encountered on the tube and the fact I have been sexjally assaulted on the tube. No I wouldn't let my child do this at ten alone.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 16/06/2024 19:00

HeidInTheBaw · 16/06/2024 18:56

Nooooo! Nadda Nadda Nadda Noooo Wayyyy! Helicopter Granny here but really? A child of 10 using the tube on her own? I just can’t comprehend it, it’s terrifyingly dangerous.

In what way is it terrifyingly dangerous?

I would want a ten year old to be with a mate/ mates but children who live in London use the tube every day to get to school, it's just like using a bus.

HeidInTheBaw · 16/06/2024 18:56

Nooooo! Nadda Nadda Nadda Noooo Wayyyy! Helicopter Granny here but really? A child of 10 using the tube on her own? I just can’t comprehend it, it’s terrifyingly dangerous.

Havinganamechange · 16/06/2024 18:54

MyQuaintDog · 16/06/2024 18:47

The only child ever abducted from the London tube was forty years ago. The tube was less safe then than now.

@MyQuaintDog It’s down to personal choice, I personally wouldn’t feel safe if my child was doing that at 10 but others are free to do as they like. It isn’t just abduction is it, what do the sexual assault statistics say?

Havinganamechange · 16/06/2024 18:51

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 16/06/2024 18:40

Evidence for this?

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g crime statistics?

Kjpt140v · 16/06/2024 18:49

This so wrong.

MyQuaintDog · 16/06/2024 18:47

Havinganamechange · 16/06/2024 18:23

Wow 10 feels so young these days and it’s nowhere near as safe as it used to be when we were little.

The only child ever abducted from the London tube was forty years ago. The tube was less safe then than now.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 16/06/2024 18:40

Havinganamechange · 16/06/2024 18:23

Wow 10 feels so young these days and it’s nowhere near as safe as it used to be when we were little.

Evidence for this?

Havinganamechange · 16/06/2024 18:23

Wow 10 feels so young these days and it’s nowhere near as safe as it used to be when we were little.

Catsandallthingscrazy · 16/06/2024 18:21

I've had this exact problem with my 11y.o son and Ex P wanting him to not use trainline ( NOT London underground and he was travelling one train stop ONLY ) My son wanted to travel on his own. As it was a well used route for us as a family. I was told that British transport police do not allow children under the age of 12 years old to travel unaccompanied. Equally I've NO idea how or where the British transport police operate or even if this is true ? But honestly I'd personally struggle to leave a child aged 10 years old ( sensible and responsible or not !!) to travel on any train especially London underground. Especially female children too. Not entirely safe at all. But then maybe that's just me !

Toptops · 16/06/2024 18:18

Good for them for travel training their child in good time for the secondary transition.
You can offer to give them a lift if it makes you happier but they will know their own child.

Greenbike · 16/06/2024 14:34

LouH1981 · 16/06/2024 13:55

Probably not, but all it takes is for that person to realise she is alone and then follow her off the train.
As a criminal defence solicitor, I have spoken with a number of predatory people over the years who have told me they have specifically targeted children who were alone and vulnerable.
I accept my job may make me more cautious but why take the risk?

Because in reality there is almost no risk. Tens of thousands of children of this age get public transport to school every day and they’re all fine. The would be more at risk in the back of their parents’ car. But fatal car crashes (which happen every day) don’t make the news and child abductions (which happen extremely rarely) make front page headlines, so parents convince themselves stranger danger is what’s going to harm their kids rather than something much more mundane. And then, like a PP pointed out, we wonder why we have a teenage mental health crisis.

LouH1981 · 16/06/2024 13:55

Thepeopleversuswork · 16/06/2024 13:13

An “unsavoury character” is not going to be able to approach this child on a busy train.

Probably not, but all it takes is for that person to realise she is alone and then follow her off the train.
As a criminal defence solicitor, I have spoken with a number of predatory people over the years who have told me they have specifically targeted children who were alone and vulnerable.
I accept my job may make me more cautious but why take the risk?

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 16/06/2024 13:18

bluewaxcrayon · 11/06/2024 13:14

YANBU to offer to pick her up.

YAB massively U to over-react about a 10yo Londoner commuting alone. The stations might not be "quiet" but neither Victoria nor Green Park are difficult to navigate.

London tube is easy, aside from possibly the stations with multiple exits where it's easier if you take the right one.

I think it's easier than the bus frankly.

Much easier than the bus,I agree.

PuttingDownRoots · 16/06/2024 13:16

If an "unsavoury character" wanted a preteen girl, they would more likely look near a Secondary school at 3pm. Not a random tube at 10am on a Saturday.

Thepeopleversuswork · 16/06/2024 13:13

LouH1981 · 15/06/2024 11:25

From the other posts, I think I am
in the minority here…
Admittedly, I live a long way from London (Shropshire). However the thought of this would absolutely terrify me.
Navigating stations is one thing. Yep, great.
But what if some unsavoury character sees her on her own and does something awful to her. She wouldn’t stand a chance.
I just couldn’t.

An “unsavoury character” is not going to be able to approach this child on a busy train.

Thepeopleversuswork · 16/06/2024 13:11

The tube is actually one of the safest ways to get around and far safer than a bus in my experience.

Ultimately it depends on the child. A child of ten who is experienced at independent tube travel will take it in their stride, a less mature and more anxious child may not. My daughter would have been fine with it but if she had signalled to me that she was uncomfortable I would have accompanied her.

Let the child and the parents be the judge of this though OP: you sound slightly anxious but it’s their call.

Hazyjaneishere · 16/06/2024 12:42

In Japan, kids of 6/7 travel in public transport like this to get to school etc - it’s the norm. Children in this country are mollycoddled in my opinion. Also, she’s not your child!

Mummaoffour1234 · 15/06/2024 13:19

LIKley · 11/06/2024 12:55

DD is in Y6, her school has kids from all over London and we are used to her friends not being super close geographically.
DD’s best friend is one of the youngest in their year, so only 10 right now.

Planning a sleepover for the girls as they won’t be at the same school next year, I asked the girls parents how she will be getting to ours and was asked if I could meet her at my nearest tube station, I assumed a parent would be meeting me there with her but no they intend to let their 10 year old get the tube alone + 2 line changes one of them either at Victoria or Green Park which if you know London are hardly going to be quiet and easy to navigate at 10.

Parent insists it’s fine and the girl knows the stations well and has been using one of them alone to get to a hobby all of Y6!!

Now I know know, most kids will be getting the tube to school alone in just a couple of months but the thought of asking a 10 year old to navigate a busy station like Victoria on her own makes me feel ill!

AIBU to say to the parents that I’ll just pick her up from there house? Equally AIBU to think it’s bloody absurd to have a 10 year old make this journey?

I wouldn’t let my 10 year old do this but equally, this is not your daughter or your call it’s her parents and you need to respect that.

I allow my 10 year old to walk to a friend’s house a few quiet streets away (less than a 5 minute walk). I always ask that they allow her to walk home alone and message me when she’s on the way but the friends parents don’t like this and insist on walking her home. I don’t say anything because I know it’s out of kindness but I do find it a little judgmental and disrespectful of my parenting decisions.

MyQuaintDog · 15/06/2024 13:10

The problem is these over protected kids turn 18. go to university, and struggle to manage. They develop anxiety, and stay in their room playing games.

Warringahvoter · 15/06/2024 11:50

How hopeless are English kids, if most parents can’t imagine them doing anything on their own. Children all over the world manage a high degree of independence at much younger ages (all through Asia, Africa and South America). Assuming that English children are not stupider, it must be parental anxiety that makes the average 12’year old English child less capable than a 6 year child from Japan who happily wears their train pass on a lanyard around their neck and catches the subway to school.

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