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To give son the same boundaries he gives us?

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kt8 · 11/06/2024 10:08

We have a grown up son who still lives with us and everyday he will come home from work ask us about our day, he wants to know what we've been up to where we've been and if we're talking he'll ask what we're talking about but then when we ask him what he's been up to or if he's been anywhere nice we get shut down because that's none of our business.
His life is very private yet he expects our lives to be an open book, he expects to be in on everything we do, say or plan yet keep our noses out and don't ask him any similar questions because that's his business.
This makes for a very difficult and one way conversation AIBU to say it's fine if he wants to be like that but should expect the boundaries work both ways then?

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CluelessInBognor · 11/06/2024 22:54

Am I the only one that thinks it's kind of nice that the son takes an interest in your life and wants to know about your day?

No, I wouldn't do tit for tat unless you actually mind answering his questions. He probably wouldn't get thst you are doing it to teach him a lesson unless you explicitly tell him.

I assume what you actually want is for him to share more about his life with you rather than just being annoyed that you are providing information and he isn't. So maybe just talk to him about it rather than playing games.

I'd be a bit worried about what he's getting up to that he doesn't want to share. Maybe it's perfectly normal but if there is a worrisom3 reason then it's definitely better to keep the lines of communication open.

betterangels · 11/06/2024 22:40

Codlingmoths · 11/06/2024 22:31

Has it honestly not occurred to you that allowing this creepy stalker behaviour is supporting your child to be a creepy stalker? How will he realise that actually if he does this to a partner the appropriate reaction is for them to call the police immediately??

Agree. It's really not normal behaviour.

Codlingmoths · 11/06/2024 22:31

MaryFuckingFerguson · 11/06/2024 16:00

I have a very similar situation, OP.

Our (lovely) 25 year old lives with mates in London. He comes home often, but we have no clue what he’s up to in between and he never tells us. For example, we saw on his Instagram that he was in Rome. He never bothered mentioning it! I only knew he was going on various other weekends away - Barcelona, Seville, Porto to name but a few, because his girlfriend mentioned it. He did deign to send us a photo from the top of a mountain last weekend which is pretty unusual. We are not nosey types at all. But I think it’d be nice to know if he’s out of the country.

He, on the other hand, is quite happy to know the minutiae of our lives. He has access to all of our security cameras and often sends us screenshots with a comment! He also tracks us via Find my Friends, but we’re not allowed to have him on ours. He’ll track our planes when we go on holidays too.

I don’t really mind as he is very close to us and completely lovely. I would never want to be nagging or needy. It’s not even secretive, he just doesn’t bother telling us stuff 🥴

Has it honestly not occurred to you that allowing this creepy stalker behaviour is supporting your child to be a creepy stalker? How will he realise that actually if he does this to a partner the appropriate reaction is for them to call the police immediately??

Sevenwondersofthewoo · 11/06/2024 22:17

By the way @kt8 your son is being rude.

yes he wants privacy but to go silent and making it awkward that’s not on and he’d be told that.

Sevenwondersofthewoo · 11/06/2024 22:14

MaryFuckingFerguson · 11/06/2024 16:00

I have a very similar situation, OP.

Our (lovely) 25 year old lives with mates in London. He comes home often, but we have no clue what he’s up to in between and he never tells us. For example, we saw on his Instagram that he was in Rome. He never bothered mentioning it! I only knew he was going on various other weekends away - Barcelona, Seville, Porto to name but a few, because his girlfriend mentioned it. He did deign to send us a photo from the top of a mountain last weekend which is pretty unusual. We are not nosey types at all. But I think it’d be nice to know if he’s out of the country.

He, on the other hand, is quite happy to know the minutiae of our lives. He has access to all of our security cameras and often sends us screenshots with a comment! He also tracks us via Find my Friends, but we’re not allowed to have him on ours. He’ll track our planes when we go on holidays too.

I don’t really mind as he is very close to us and completely lovely. I would never want to be nagging or needy. It’s not even secretive, he just doesn’t bother telling us stuff 🥴

This isn’t normal behaviour at all

PurpleBugz · 11/06/2024 22:06

I would have a frank conversation with him about how you experience having a conversation with him. It's not going to help him in life if he's like this with everyone and he may not be aware it's like this for people trying to converse with him

durundundun · 11/06/2024 22:03

If you enjoy telling him what you have been up to then tell him. If you don't enjoy it then don't.

But don't treat it as transactional.

You can absolutely tell him it's not something you want to share with him but if you are doing this purely to get back at him and thus deprive yourself of a conversation then what have you gained?

He doesn't have to tell you. You don't have to tell him.

If you want to tell him then do. But this doesn't mean he owes you the same

travelmadmum23 · 11/06/2024 21:51

Do you have a habit of discussing other family members business etc? We don't tell my in laws anything because they gossip about you and tell all and sundry your business. Used to be an open book and not now - not saying that's the reason but potentially he doesn't trust you to keep his business private.

sleekcat · 11/06/2024 21:39

I would not put boundaries or stop chatting to him because then the lines of communication will be closed down and it might just stay that way. I would pull him up on it though if he was really rude.

My son is a similar age, he doesn't live with me but I often text him and ask him something normal about his day or what he's doing and he'll often answer with something like, "yes, why?"

I chatted to my mum a lot but there was a lot of stuff I wouldn't dream of telling her and still haven't.

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 11/06/2024 21:39

Abouttimeforanamechange · 11/06/2024 17:39

Reflect critically about your goal and motivations
be open to taking in feedback

What is this, a workplace appraisal or evaluation??? Is there a form to fill in?

Don't people just talk to each other any more? Like have a conversation where one person says something, then the other person says something?

I hope all the people who can't possibly tell their parents anything about their lives aren't surprised in a few years time when their parents have given up asking, and don't show any interest in their grandchildren.

They'll just blame it on the parents just as various posters have done here.

Job done.

MisterMagnolia · 11/06/2024 21:31

I would be tempted to divulge lots of saucy details about what you and his father get up to when he's put of the house. Maybe include a couple of neighbours for good measure..that will stop him.

betterangels · 11/06/2024 21:27

vanillaclouds · 11/06/2024 10:49

so embrace these few minutes when he’s asking about your day

Or if you believe you're worth more than a few crumbs, teach your son to respect you if he wants to live in your home.

This, honestly. Perhaps he should look at rentals where he doesn't need to interact with anyone.

Contemplation2024 · 11/06/2024 20:18

Abouttimeforanamechange · 11/06/2024 17:39

Reflect critically about your goal and motivations
be open to taking in feedback

What is this, a workplace appraisal or evaluation??? Is there a form to fill in?

Don't people just talk to each other any more? Like have a conversation where one person says something, then the other person says something?

I hope all the people who can't possibly tell their parents anything about their lives aren't surprised in a few years time when their parents have given up asking, and don't show any interest in their grandchildren.

Why would someone not show any interest in their grandchildren because they don't think their adult child is telling them enough?

These are the type of parents adult children won't want to speak to in the first place because everything is conditional and they'll have grown up with it.

Appalling

Lavenderflower · 11/06/2024 20:08

I think this is typical of parent and children relationship. Children are accustomed to parents detailing their lives whereas as children get they tend to tell you less - possible due to fear of judgement. There is nothing wrong with putting boundaries - try not to take his behaviour personal.

AGoingConcern · 11/06/2024 19:37

Abouttimeforanamechange · 11/06/2024 17:39

Reflect critically about your goal and motivations
be open to taking in feedback

What is this, a workplace appraisal or evaluation??? Is there a form to fill in?

Don't people just talk to each other any more? Like have a conversation where one person says something, then the other person says something?

I hope all the people who can't possibly tell their parents anything about their lives aren't surprised in a few years time when their parents have given up asking, and don't show any interest in their grandchildren.

Goodness, I'm sorry to hear that critical self-reflection and openness to hearing feedback from your loved ones on how they're experiencing your interactions is something that seems strange to you outside of an employment evaluation.

usernother · 11/06/2024 19:16

I think it's odd that you haven't already challenged him about this. After the first couple of times I'd have said myob when he asked me about what I was up to, and explained why.

ChrisPPancake · 11/06/2024 19:15

I'd make up really random stuff to check if he's actually paying attention or just asking because it's the right thing to do sort of thing.

Something like you've just booked a trip Zorbing round lake Windermere, the neighbour was annoying you so you've put weedkiller in their flower beds. If those sort of things are met with an "oh right" you know he's not really listening and can start discussing your wildest sexual fantasies with dh

Spirallingdownwards · 11/06/2024 19:08

Where does he work? Is he working in law where there is a duty of confidentiality (albeit he could give a general outline). One of my children work in a government setting and he isn't allowed to tell us anything. Jut is happy to talk about his social life and gf.

yumyumyumy · 11/06/2024 19:04

Maybe it's time he moved out.

Lavenderflower · 11/06/2024 19:02

I think this is typical of parent and children relationship. Children are accustomed to parents detailing their lives whereas as children get they tend to tell you less - possible due to fear of judgement. There is nothing wrong with putting boundaries - try not to take his behaviour personal.

Carouselfish · 11/06/2024 19:01

If as his parents you are expected to put up with this, it will probably be what he carries on into his relationships. It is pathetic and immature that he can't just be normal and talk. Yes, OP, point out the disparity.

LuluBlakey1 · 11/06/2024 18:59

kt8 · 11/06/2024 10:30

He will either ask why? or a question such as been anywhere nice will be answered a simple yes thanks or out, we'll get nothing more and he'll either change the subject or walk off or another one is to remain silent so you just don't get an answer.

I know someone like this and the truth is he has a very dull, isolated, odd life that he does not wish to share with his family. He is actually gay but can not admit it to anyone, has never had a relationship and cuts himself off from any close relationships of any kind. He is very successful at work but extremely private. Might your son be the same?

SeriaMau · 11/06/2024 18:57

What a waster. Kick him out. Time he stood on his own two feet. You deserve so much better than this for a son.

5128gap · 11/06/2024 18:52

My DS is a less extreme version of this. Clearly thinks my life is an open book as far as he's concerned, and while he'd never say MYOB, doesn't give back anywhere near as much about his, only when it suits him, and is very good at being evasive and shutting down enquiries about his plans when it doesn't. If I try to do the same he looks hurt and says 'Is it a secret or something?'

Stompythedinosaur · 11/06/2024 18:51

Well, I think think that a petty tit for tat interaction is going to help tbh.

He's clearly a little bit immature still, and I suspect things will get better as he ages.

It definitely sounds like a good time for him to think about moving out.