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Worriedmummmm · 11/06/2024 10:04

I already know I’m unreasonable! Posting for traffic as I haven’t had much luck on other boards.

My dd has been recently diagnosed with anorexia. She has some traits which would have previously been diagnosed as atypical anorexia, but she has restricted her diet so severely she has made herself seriously unwell. She is ok with textures etc, it’s the calorie content she is concerned with; she feels she is overweight. She will eat some high calorie food, especially if it’s homemade, and others she will not tolerate due to the ‘calories’ in a way that is not logical. For example she had a (normal) McDonald’s meal but will not eat anything at home which is cooked in vegetable oil as she says it needs to be butter due to the calories. She is now underweight, from a healthy-but top end of healthy starting point, so has lost a lot of weight. Our clinician feels she is very underweight. (She is incredibly tall so it is really genuinely hard to tell. She is possibly one of the tallest for her age so BMIs etc are all irrelevant).

Since diagnosis, she has started to exhibit a lot of worrying traits and I am beginning to wonder if she has previously masked ASD traits. They have already queried this at the clinic, but other than a persistent issue with sound, she has always presented as emotionally mature, social, and extremely good at mediation. This was picked up on at school from an early age.

Now that she is talking, she has spoken about clothes not feeling ‘right’ - she says it’s not that they’re uncomfortable, they just don’t feel right. She constantly refers to feeling uneven, and she is really struggling with noise; noisy environments or repeated sound like a car alarm. She can’t cope with change over meals, and says that she is feeling totally overwhelmed, and doesn’t feel right inside her head. She has also taken to marching around the room and tantrumming. This is all different from her usual presentation. She is also struggling with her skin, picking at her hands until they bleed, and starting to wear jewellery so that she can fidget with it.

A lot of this I had been putting down to the anorexia, and have already discussed the marching and noise to the ED team. I am now worrying that actually she may be on the spectrum but just successfully masked until now. She does have the classic traits of successful maskers - she is bright and a perfectionist. But I can’t get past her other characteristics of being highly reflective, and incredibly empathetic, and genuinely so understanding of emotions, all of which she exhibited at a young age, ie too young to have learnt. She has younger siblings and is very understanding of their needs, and very loving towards them. I am not suggesting for a moment that ASD = lack of empathy and know, like all things that there is a spectrum. But I would describe her as very unusually skilled in this area. She had a massive (think huge, epic) tantrum in a neighbouring town when she was 2 and a half. After her nap at home later on that day, she brought it up, saying she was sorry she shouted yesterday, she was just so angry. She refused to go back to the town for at least a year, and also never had another tantrum, which ended about 4 months of big toddler tantrums.

Talk to me! Educate me, or point me in the right place please?

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Hinkuy · 11/06/2024 10:47

Sounds like ADHD to me as well as the ED and anxiety? She needs more professional help and referral for diagnosis.

Worriedmummmm · 11/06/2024 10:44

meganorks · 11/06/2024 10:32

From what you have said, I wouldn't have thought it was ASD. Emotional regulation and effective communication and social skills are such a key part of an autism diagnosis. And it seems like your daughter is great in these areas. The two things you mention about stresses around clothes and food seem perfectly explainable by the anorexia diagnosis. In terms of reaction to noise, is this particularly when she is already upset or stressed by something else?

My eldest is autistic. Youngest not. The youngest is much fussier around clothes and how they feel and also food. But I am certain she isn't autistic as she is very emotionally intelligent (ie in tune with other people's emotions.)

Noise - no. She has always had issues; couldn’t cope with the vacuum as a baby, hated a West End musical when she was 10 as it was too loud, very sensitive to ‘tense’ music on a tv (she will leave the room - she really doesn’t like it), found it impossible at the science museum. When she is stressed or upset noise is also a heightened issue, but it’s not only reserved for then

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TheodoreMortlock · 11/06/2024 10:41

I would also suggest looking at how autism can present in women with lower support needs (what used to be called Aspergers).

What is obvious systemising in little boys (lining up trains, obsessive knowledge of niche subject) can sometimes be less obvious in girls, such as systemising social rules which can lead to the girl appearing much more socially competent than she is and being very anxious if someone else breaks the rules - this often looks more like a "good girl" than an autistic girl.

This is a useful checklist, obviously nobody ticks every box on the list but it is a good overview of how autism can present in girls https://the-art-of-autism.com/females-and-aspergers-a-checklist/

Females and Autism / Aspergers: A checklist

This list is meant as a springboard for discussion and more awareness into the female experience with autism. By Samantha Craft Females with Autism: An Un

https://the-art-of-autism.com/females-and-aspergers-a-checklist

EggshellSpacesuit · 11/06/2024 10:36

Obviously I do not know and couldn’t possibly suggest anything over the internet!

That said, I would at least take a look at ADHD and see if you feel that you could at least rule that out.

Don’t dismiss it based on what you think you know; really look into the different types and how they present in women and girls.

I was diagnosed at 50.

TheodoreMortlock · 11/06/2024 10:36

People with ASD don't lack empathy - generally they can have good (or even advanced) levels of affective empathy but struggle with cognitive empathy. Autistic girls in particular can come across as mature in a "little professor" way.

However, it is also possible to have the sensory problems of autism without the other impairments, with Sensory Processing Disorder.

meganorks · 11/06/2024 10:32

From what you have said, I wouldn't have thought it was ASD. Emotional regulation and effective communication and social skills are such a key part of an autism diagnosis. And it seems like your daughter is great in these areas. The two things you mention about stresses around clothes and food seem perfectly explainable by the anorexia diagnosis. In terms of reaction to noise, is this particularly when she is already upset or stressed by something else?

My eldest is autistic. Youngest not. The youngest is much fussier around clothes and how they feel and also food. But I am certain she isn't autistic as she is very emotionally intelligent (ie in tune with other people's emotions.)