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16 year old son ignored my birthday

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Em2024 · 11/06/2024 07:12

AIBU - my 16 year old son completely ignored my birthday - no card, no present not even a happy birthday Mum! I shouted at him and told him he was horrible because I do absolutely everything for him and he said I shouldn’t speak to a child like that! I feel so upset that I have raised a child who can be so horrible. What do I do?

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LuckySantangelo35 · 11/06/2024 14:37

LostTheMarble · 11/06/2024 14:29

How would you feel if your spouse said that to you? Or if your parents said that to you as a child? The op may have overreacted but calling someone entitled for wanting a small recognition of their birthday from a loved one is peak MN.

@Famfirst

op doesn’t deserve a present or card - why not?
does her son not deserve a present and card when it’s his next birthday then ?

LostTheMarble · 11/06/2024 14:29

Famfirst · 11/06/2024 12:07

Nothing. You don't deserve to get a present or card, and he certainly doesn't deserve to be guilt tripped.
You'll never know if he's buying you anything in future because he wants to or because he feels obligated or to avoid you throwing a hissy fit. Don't be so entitled.

How would you feel if your spouse said that to you? Or if your parents said that to you as a child? The op may have overreacted but calling someone entitled for wanting a small recognition of their birthday from a loved one is peak MN.

Wontubemysweetheart · 11/06/2024 13:57

Op we understand that he should have said happy birthday but when you say what should you do I'm confused. What does one do when their child doesn't say happy bday? There's nothing to do. You've already had a go at him, you never said what he responded with but I'm assuming he's got the message. Go and enjoy your birthday together with your son!!!

Naunet · 11/06/2024 13:27

Famfirst · 11/06/2024 12:30

You absolutely don't!

If you want to raise narcissistic, entitled, self involved brats who think the world revolves around them, then sure. I believe though, your job as a parent is to raise a well rounded, self reliant, considerate members of society, and that involves parenting, it doesn’t just happen by magic when they turn 18.

Roundroundthegarden · 11/06/2024 13:17

Josette77 · 11/06/2024 07:17

Did he know it was your birthday?

What does he normally do for it?

I understand you're disappointed but
I think it's rather horrible to call him horrible.

He's 16. You can't guilt him by saying you do everything when essentially that's our roles as parents.

It sounds like you two don't have a very healthy relationship which I think is the more pressing issue.

I would be very, very shocked that a 16yo doesn't know his mum's birthday. Something has to be very wrong if he doesn't

stressedespresso · 11/06/2024 12:55

Hugosmaid · 11/06/2024 12:46

You sound like an absolute joy!

Why does someone not craving or needing external validation in their life bother you so much? I fully agree with you @ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie

A cheap card bought in a hurry would mean nothing to me either!

ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie · 11/06/2024 12:50

Hugosmaid · 11/06/2024 12:46

You sound like an absolute joy!

Thank you!

Anonymouseposter · 11/06/2024 12:49

Is he in the middle of GCSEs and just forgot? You could have reminded him in a jokey way. A bit childish to shout at him and call him horrible.

Hugosmaid · 11/06/2024 12:46

ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie · 11/06/2024 12:10

I am sure that is meant to be kind and validating, for which I thank you. However, external validation isn't something that matters to me. I am a person who happens to have children, they are not my raison d'etre.

I am not stopping anyone spoiling me if they choose to, I just do not expect it. I also do not see picking up a card from the corner shop in passing as spoiling me.

You sound like an absolute joy!

lemonmeringueno3 · 11/06/2024 12:38

I have found this thread very interesting. I am surprised at how many people wouldn't mind or wouldn't care if their dc did this, at the excuses for such rude behaviour.

I think it might go some of the way towards explaining why behaviour is deteriorating in schools - little princes whose every misdemeanour is lovingly excused at home.

OP, nothing wrong with setting out reasonable expectations. We accept the behaviour we walk past.

Only forgivable if he's mid-exams and genuinely forgot and was apologetic.

LuckySantangelo35 · 11/06/2024 12:32

Famfirst · 11/06/2024 12:30

You absolutely don't!

@Famfirst

why not? Surely it’s part and parcel of being a decent human being unless you have totally terrible parents (which are few and far between)

Famfirst · 11/06/2024 12:30

LuckySantangelo35 · 11/06/2024 11:39

@Agix

you absolutely do owe your parents birthday wishes

You absolutely don't!

LuckySantangelo35 · 11/06/2024 12:28

ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie · 11/06/2024 12:10

I am sure that is meant to be kind and validating, for which I thank you. However, external validation isn't something that matters to me. I am a person who happens to have children, they are not my raison d'etre.

I am not stopping anyone spoiling me if they choose to, I just do not expect it. I also do not see picking up a card from the corner shop in passing as spoiling me.

@ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie

totally agree with you that having children shouldn’t be anyone’s raison D’etre! And even so I think at the very least 16 year olds should be able to get their parents a birthday card and say happy birthday!

ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie · 11/06/2024 12:10

LuckySantangelo35 · 11/06/2024 11:42

@ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie

eveyone deserves having a fuss made of them at times whether they are 5 years old or 50! Let people spoil you a bit - you’re not just a mum, you’re a person - you matter too!

I am sure that is meant to be kind and validating, for which I thank you. However, external validation isn't something that matters to me. I am a person who happens to have children, they are not my raison d'etre.

I am not stopping anyone spoiling me if they choose to, I just do not expect it. I also do not see picking up a card from the corner shop in passing as spoiling me.

Famfirst · 11/06/2024 12:07

Nothing. You don't deserve to get a present or card, and he certainly doesn't deserve to be guilt tripped.
You'll never know if he's buying you anything in future because he wants to or because he feels obligated or to avoid you throwing a hissy fit. Don't be so entitled.

sweatpie · 11/06/2024 12:04

It sounds OTT for me.

But what else can we extrapolate from one very short opening post? Pretty pointless to even discuss.

Naunet · 11/06/2024 11:58

Wills890 · 11/06/2024 10:56

No you don't...because he's a child! He's 16 not 36. Teenage boys don't think of things like buying cards and flowers at their age. Just let it go! What adult is this bothered about their birthday...

This needs to stop, it’s just giving boys a free pass not to have consider others, either have this attitude towards boys AND girls, or neither. It’s this attitude that means we end up with future generations of women still feeling like they have to cover for their shit husband/boyfriends and buy gifts and cards on his behalf for his family.

Alwaysgothiccups · 11/06/2024 11:47

Yabu
He IS a child.
Yeah it's thoughtless and selfish abd you should have told him that. But to make a big deal behind pointing that out is ott. Calling him a horrible person is ott... he's just a teenager and yes they are self absorbed even the most lovely ones.
And these people saying to ignore his birthday in revenge are batshit. That is your child. It's next level wrong to ignore your own child's birthday.. it's not equivalent to your teen child forgetting yours.
Remember that you raise the children you then deal with as an adult.
Its you who are the parent and should be setting an example of emotional maturity and taking the high road.
So you say 'I'm a bit hurt that you completely forgot my birthday, that isn't very kind'
You then put the date in his phone calander for next year so he gets a reminder, and you leave at that.
No name calling and emotive language.
You want to raise a reasonable adult then start by behaving like a reasonable adult.

LuckySantangelo35 · 11/06/2024 11:42

ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie · 11/06/2024 11:40

Of course I have celebrated their birthdays because they are children. I am an adult, I don't need a fuss making as if I am 5 years old. Or for them to be getting all excited about it as if they are still 5 years old.

But thanks for calling me really peculiar. I appreciate it. 👍🏼

@ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie

eveyone deserves having a fuss made of them at times whether they are 5 years old or 50! Let people spoil you a bit - you’re not just a mum, you’re a person - you matter too!

Gymnopedie · 11/06/2024 11:40

Did he deliberately ignore it or forget, there's a diference. Especially if he is doing GCSEs.

But I'm wondering if OP's 'horrible' reaction, while it seems OTT in isolation, was actually the last straw and that he is generally selfish and entitled.

ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie · 11/06/2024 11:40

IndecentPropolis · 11/06/2024 09:53

This is bizarre. Have you never made a fuss of them on their birthday? Surely for people whose parents/family make birthdays an occasion/celebration, it’s natural to return the sentiments?

My sons have always loved at least saying happy birthday. IME with my own kids and those of friends, the progression just naturally goes:

Other parent/family member buys a card. Small child scribbles in it.

Other parent buys card. Child
writes in it.

Other parent may or may not buy small present for child to give to Birthday person.

Other parent reminds child to get card for birthday person. Gives them the money if necessary “Don’t forget its mums birthday on Saturday. Pop into the Spar on your way home from school and get her a card”.

And so on until child is old enough to buy presents for others himself.

My younger son in particular was so excited this year when he chose, ordered and bought birthday and Xmas pressies for family for the first time with his own money.

I mean if you’ve never done birthdays in your house at all it’s different but surely if your children have always enjoyed their own birthdays it’s natural that they want to return the favour - to make someone else happy like you’ve made them?

Really peculiar and cold 🤷‍♀️

Of course I have celebrated their birthdays because they are children. I am an adult, I don't need a fuss making as if I am 5 years old. Or for them to be getting all excited about it as if they are still 5 years old.

But thanks for calling me really peculiar. I appreciate it. 👍🏼

LuckySantangelo35 · 11/06/2024 11:39

Agix · 11/06/2024 07:18

YANBU to be upset, but I don't think it's fair to hang what you do as a parent over his head for anything. You chose to be a parent, and what you do as one is what you should be doing. He shouldn't be made to feel like he owes you anything - not even birthday wishes - in return for you being a parent.

@Agix

you absolutely do owe your parents birthday wishes

BottomlessBrunch · 11/06/2024 11:31

Yeah maybe shouting was a bit OTT but sometimes it can be a wake up call.

Too many people excusing poor behaviour from teens here. No wonder so many people grow up selfish only thinking of themselves.

Most people don't care about birthdays per se but it's what they represent about making someone feel special/thought of.

I wouldn't apologise (yet) op to your son if you do - he'll end up feeling even more so that he was the right and you've been out of order to tell him off. Let him stew on it for a bit it may be the dose of reality he needs.

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/06/2024 11:26

ABirdsEyeView · Today 08:54
Agree there's a big difference between forgetting and not bothering.
I don't entirely accept that being a teen is a get out of jail free card for being thoughtless and selfish. Wishing mum a happy birthday is not that onerous a task. But if he did just completely forget the date, I'd not be cross about that”

This. My mum usually forgets my birthday. It’s become a running joke. Have I ever shouted at her about it? Hell no, of course not. Because I’m a grown up.

SooticaTheWitchesCat · 11/06/2024 11:20

I would have been extremely upset too. Not so much about the card or the gift but the fact that he didn't even acknowledge your birthday, it was just plain rude.
Teenagers can be so self centred sometimes.
I think you need to tell him later how hurt you were but maybe apologise for calling him horrible (even though what he did was) and hopefully he will apologise for forgetting
I'm guessing he is in the middle of GCSEs, which is why he forgot but he still needs to accept he was wrong.
Happy birthday by the way 🙂