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To feel this is the end because he called me a c€&t under his breath

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RealNewt · 11/06/2024 00:29

Hi, I really need some advice. Just had a fight with DH while on holiday and walked out of the room. I changed my mind and walked back in, and heard him at the tail end of calling me a cunt to himself. He (under interrogation) admitted it. I am really shocked that he would call me this, even to himself. For the record, I wasn’t being particularly unreasonable or acting cuntish, it was just a stupid fight about nothing.

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pinkdelight · 11/06/2024 13:42

If all else is well, I absolutely wouldn't end a marriage over this, no. Some people are more sweary than others. I'd say 'cunt' if I stubbed my toe. It's a way to get a feeling out. You don't have to read more into it to make out this man you know very well is a secretly hate-fuelled misogynist unless there's other things in play.

goody2shooz · 11/06/2024 13:41

@RealNewt is it ‘just’ this though? Is it that you feel there is real venom behind his words? You’re entitled to feel very cross that he called you that, even muttered it aloud, but is there something more niggling at you? You say you feel he’s not honest about his feelings and that you often suspect he feels anger towards you - how often? Because that’s a very disconcerting feeling to live with, that your partner is wearing a mask and you feel uneasy.

barbismyfriend · 11/06/2024 13:33

andyourpointiswhat · 11/06/2024 00:44

That is the one word that would always be a dealbreaker for me. Not sure why I feel so strongly about it but I do and my family know it so I would struggle to get past it. It’s the feeling behind using the word rather than whether or not you were supposed to hear it that would make me walk.

Oh me too!

I can swear like a trooper but that is one word that will never pass my lips.

OrlandointheWilderness · 11/06/2024 13:28

Is it a word he would use generally?

MWNA · 11/06/2024 13:27

sixtyandsomething · 11/06/2024 00:30

yes, that wouldbe the end for me

Seriously?
I'd ignore it unless it was a part of something deeper.
People are allowed to be frustrated. Cunt is just a word. And a good one to let off steam with.

2dogsandabudgie · 11/06/2024 12:55

It's just a swear word. Who was it who decided that certain words would be swear words anyway and that there would be levels of mild to extreme.

Having said that it is the one word that I don't like!

YourWinter · 11/06/2024 12:44

That would be a deal-breaker for me. Nobody gets to call me that and expect me to stay in contact, let alone a relationship.

Growlybear83 · 11/06/2024 12:41

I think it's a huge over reaction. There have been many times over the 50 years I've been with my husband where we've had rows and called each other all sorts of names, but it's done in the heat of the argument, and is forgotten once one of us has apologised, or once we've both calmed down. I'm sure it's a word that we've probably both used to each other at some point. What I don't understand is why so many people seem willing to break up a marriage over such a trivial issue, and why people don't seem to work at their marriages any more. It's very different if your partner in unfaithful or violent, but leaving because of a word used in an argument seems ridiculous - when you marry someone you make a lifelong commitment to them, and I think it's just bizarre to consider breaking up a marriage because of something like this.

sweatpie · 11/06/2024 12:33

RealNewt · 11/06/2024 01:09

Yep, it’s the feeling behind the word thing that’s getting me. And I’m also holidaying somewhere with very scant internet coverage so have been desperately trying to find corners of the house where I can read these responses, arrgh!! Thank you all. He wouldn’t have form for calling me names but I do often suspect that he feels angry at me and isn’t honest about it. he’s all “I’m a calm tolerant lovely person”……until he’s calling his partner a cunt under his breath.

He can say sorry, and you need to let it go.

You say he repressed his feelings. Right, and you wonder why? It's not that big a deal, you even say he doesn't do that your face, it was in private!

MN will validate your view that your 'lovely' partner should never show an ounce of anger, so 🤷🏼‍♀️

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 11/06/2024 12:33

In fact I've definitely called DH similar behind his back after an argument. While I'm not proud of it it does happen in the heat or the moment when I am absolutely fuming.

AlltheFs · 11/06/2024 12:31

BlastedPimples · 11/06/2024 12:27

If it's just a word, when is name calling ever considered abusive and unacceptable?

They're all just words.

It’s abusive if it is one sided, or bullying, or controlling or undermining or otherwise nasty.

It’s not abusive if it’s just two people that are both a bit sweary and give as good as they get (and are otherwise loving and happy). We don’t say it with any malice.

BlastedPimples · 11/06/2024 12:27

If it's just a word, when is name calling ever considered abusive and unacceptable?

They're all just words.

Fizzadora · 11/06/2024 12:24

It's just a word. Stop being so precious.
Unless of course you're looking for excuses reasons to split up.

AlltheFs · 11/06/2024 12:23

It all depends on your relationship - we are very sweary (not around DD) and I probably call DH a cunt to his face most months. It means absolutely nothing to us.

Muttered under breath wouldn’t bother me at all. But we are all different and it depends what your marriage is like overall. We are very close and happy. But we are also both quite hot tempered and we quite like a good argument, so we have a lot. It would probably horrify people that are the “never argue” type.

The nail in the coffin for us will be if we just stop talking.

lemonmeringueno3 · 11/06/2024 12:21

Surely we all mutter rude words about people when they are not there.

I used to call my mum names in the privacy of my bedroom as a kid.

It's not the same as screaming it into your face.

hummusandchips · 11/06/2024 12:17

I'm always muttering rude words about my DH under my breath when he's not in earshot. I'd never do it to his face and it lets off steam for me!

blablausername · 11/06/2024 11:51

I understand you, and I too would have been upset, however I think that actually you should think about it a bit more rationally.
Muttering under your breath, to yourself, whilst alone is akin to thoughts in your own head in my opinion. This is a way of dealing with a stressful situation and the fact that he chose not to direct it at you is probably because he knows that he doesn't mean it really, but needs to express his anger about the argument.

Frasers · 11/06/2024 11:44

It clearly wasn’t a stupid fight about nothing though, as he was clearly very angry or upset by it. You say you think he often feels angry with you but doesn’t show it. It looks like this is one of those times.

to be honest, I’ve muttered stuff under my breath about my husband, horrible words, when he’s annoyed the fuck out of me, the c one being one of them.

the issue here is you both have a different view of the argument. You feel it was nothing and you were not being cunty. He has a different view.

Pigeonqueen · 11/06/2024 11:44

Alwaysgothiccups · 11/06/2024 01:08

I definitely would call my husband a cunt under my breath in the next room where he couldn't hear me if he pissed me off enough..
And I love that man. I'd do anything for him. We've been together 14 years. He's the love of my life.
Annoys me sometimes tho...

I think venting frustration when you think you are alone is completely different from aggressively swearing at someone.

On here there was recently a thread about a husband who'd read a wife's diary where she had been upset and writing negative things about the marriage.
The general consensus was that he was wrong to read her diary. That it was a place where she could work through her emotions in privacy.

I don't see this scenario as much different.
This man thought he was alone. He wasn't aggressively calling her a cunt he was expressing his annoyance whilst thinking he was alone. This is not something he would have chosen to say to her face.

Have you honestly never been furious in a moment? We can't help feeling our emotions but we cab help how we express them..
Swearing to yourself when you think you are alone is pretty normal imo.
I'd only be worried about this if he had angrily been swearing to her face.

I agree. (Married 15 years. I’d just choose to ignore it).

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 11/06/2024 11:40

Alwaysgothiccups · 11/06/2024 01:08

I definitely would call my husband a cunt under my breath in the next room where he couldn't hear me if he pissed me off enough..
And I love that man. I'd do anything for him. We've been together 14 years. He's the love of my life.
Annoys me sometimes tho...

I think venting frustration when you think you are alone is completely different from aggressively swearing at someone.

On here there was recently a thread about a husband who'd read a wife's diary where she had been upset and writing negative things about the marriage.
The general consensus was that he was wrong to read her diary. That it was a place where she could work through her emotions in privacy.

I don't see this scenario as much different.
This man thought he was alone. He wasn't aggressively calling her a cunt he was expressing his annoyance whilst thinking he was alone. This is not something he would have chosen to say to her face.

Have you honestly never been furious in a moment? We can't help feeling our emotions but we cab help how we express them..
Swearing to yourself when you think you are alone is pretty normal imo.
I'd only be worried about this if he had angrily been swearing to her face.

Agree with this

SissySpacekAteMyHamster · 11/06/2024 11:40

You caught him out, but it wasn't meant for your ears.

I think it would be a massive overreaction on your part if you ended your relationship over this.

I have called my husband allsorts at times under my breath and I love him.

Crazycrazylady · 11/06/2024 11:39

I rarely rarely use that word and reserve it for the worst of the worst behaviour so it would be totally shocking to me to hear my husband use it about me. I

Ragwort · 11/06/2024 11:39

Honestly I think you all must be saints if you never mutter a swear word under your breath (privately) in the heat of the moment ... I would never, ever swear at anyone or use swear words (even on Mumsnet !) but yes, I do on occasions mutter fairly strong words in private if a situation is particular exasperating.

yellowsmileyface · 11/06/2024 11:34

I think on MN, being called the C word qualifies for an automatic LTB.

However in this case, it sounds like it was an isolated incident so I don't think it's worth ending the marriage over.

For me the big difference is that he said it under his breath rather than directly to you. If he'd said it to you it would qualify as verbal abuse, however in my opinion, saying something under your breath once someone's left the room isn't verbal abuse.

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 11/06/2024 11:30

I love how Mumsnet is full of stepford wives.
Never had a negative thought about their partner
Never called them a name
Never raised their voice, never even thought about it
Never took the huff, never petty
Children are all angels, never arseholes

Load of shite