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To feel this is the end because he called me a c€&t under his breath

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RealNewt · 11/06/2024 00:29

Hi, I really need some advice. Just had a fight with DH while on holiday and walked out of the room. I changed my mind and walked back in, and heard him at the tail end of calling me a cunt to himself. He (under interrogation) admitted it. I am really shocked that he would call me this, even to himself. For the record, I wasn’t being particularly unreasonable or acting cuntish, it was just a stupid fight about nothing.

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PuddlesPityParty · 14/06/2024 11:38

AnnieSnap · 14/06/2024 11:02

It’s done. See the OP updates

I did - can’t see where she apologised though?

AnnieSnap · 14/06/2024 11:02

PuddlesPityParty · 14/06/2024 05:32

Erm and did you apologise OP? Agree with the poster above.

It’s done. See the OP updates

PuddlesPityParty · 14/06/2024 05:32

Erm and did you apologise OP? Agree with the poster above.

RealNewt · 14/06/2024 00:54

AnnieSnap · 14/06/2024 00:44

@RealNewt that sounds as if you really love each other, but I’d gently suggest that you would benefit from a series of couples therapy sessions. It’s not healthy for you to be “bossy” with him, or for him to swallow his feelings and build up resentment about it. Couples therapy (speaking as someone who has done it for years as a Psychologist), shouldn’t be a last resort, or even just when a couple feel unhappy together. It can resolve issues that bother people and lead to much more contentment in the relationship 💐

Thank you, that is something I’ve been considering so maybe it’s time. It’s really nice that you interpreted that we love each other. Thanks ❤️

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AnnieSnap · 14/06/2024 00:44

@RealNewt that sounds as if you really love each other, but I’d gently suggest that you would benefit from a series of couples therapy sessions. It’s not healthy for you to be “bossy” with him, or for him to swallow his feelings and build up resentment about it. Couples therapy (speaking as someone who has done it for years as a Psychologist), shouldn’t be a last resort, or even just when a couple feel unhappy together. It can resolve issues that bother people and lead to much more contentment in the relationship 💐

RealNewt · 14/06/2024 00:13

Thank you all so much for your replies, many of them were so kind and not to be glib but this is the first time I’ve had more than five responses to an MN post so I’m feeling like soooo popular right now 😃.

Circumstance took care of the situation in that I managed to get a horrible stomach thing and spent the last two days vomiting, so was too weak and dependent for any recriminations/issuing of divorce proceedings…
In answer to queries, yes he would use the word casually enough but only to describe vile Tory politicians or his horrible boss, not, heretofore, to describe his lifetime partner!.
He was apologetic but not overly so, I have to say. It was more “I use that word, I’ve heard you use it, it’s done”. He is a kind and gentle type but he has a temper that can come out when he’s had more than a few drinks, and there is a scary edge to that temper. He hasn’t been abusive but there have definitely been times I feel wary of him. Our relationship is…..flawed. I can be quite bossy towards him and I think he resents me for it. He had a hugely traumatic childhood and I think he definitely doesn’t engage with his own feelings, he’s all “I love you, everything is fine” with a look in his eye that says he wants to bludgeon me (not quite, being glib again). I have my own issues and am a bit codependent. It’s all a bit messy. (I’m not a cunt though, right?!?!??)
Anyway thanks again so much for replying, it really was a lifeline the other night, you get past the age where you can lift the phone and tell a friend that your husband called you a cunt! Some of you gave advice that I am really going to keep with me from here on in. Kisses to all of you (even those that said I probably am a cunt 😂).

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Iamnotabat · 13/06/2024 15:26

RealNewt · 11/06/2024 00:29

Hi, I really need some advice. Just had a fight with DH while on holiday and walked out of the room. I changed my mind and walked back in, and heard him at the tail end of calling me a cunt to himself. He (under interrogation) admitted it. I am really shocked that he would call me this, even to himself. For the record, I wasn’t being particularly unreasonable or acting cuntish, it was just a stupid fight about nothing.

Well, it was rather rude but not the end of the world......depends what was the row about? Did you criticise his driving, his finesse with a barbecue, his inability to give you an orgasm? If the answer to all this is no, then he is just plain horrid!!!

Heirian · 13/06/2024 13:42

Get out. He'll keep doing it and if you put up with the disrespect you'll live with the disrespect forever. Trust me.

WeekendFreedom · 13/06/2024 13:38

FiveTreeHill · 13/06/2024 07:20

Because the words have different meanings?

Most people will use cunt to express a much worse feeling about someone than twat. The whole point of words is they convey meaning

Cunt and twat have the same meanings though, so which ever one is used out of the two the same meaning applies

Tamrastarr · 13/06/2024 12:10

This word now seems to be very mainstream. I've been called it numerous times and I'm honestly not that bad!! LOL. Watch the Micky Flanagan routine where he calls it "casual c*ing"

JuliaAL · 13/06/2024 10:51

I think although it's a very controversial word it can have different connotations to different people.
In our house it can almost be seen as a jokey term of endearment when our (adult) daughter uses it to her dad😱
It's not the worst insult I could be called (or use) but each to their own

MissingMoominMamma · 13/06/2024 09:35

I’d much prefer my partner got their frustration out like that, than sulked. You weren’t supposed to hear it.

FiveTreeHill · 13/06/2024 07:20

WeekendFreedom · 12/06/2024 20:15

But why is it worse if someone calls you a cunt opposed to a twat? People will be less offended by twat. That is what I don’t understand

Because the words have different meanings?

Most people will use cunt to express a much worse feeling about someone than twat. The whole point of words is they convey meaning

FrenchandSaunders · 13/06/2024 05:55

I did this after a row and DH had pissed me off. Walked out the room muttering … hadn’t realised our teen DD was in the next room. “Mum did you just call dad a cunt” …. “NO I wouldn’t do that you’ve misheard.

We’ve been together over 30 years and rarely argue and I don’t even swear that much. Let it go OP, enjoy your hols.

AutumnalLeaves38 · 13/06/2024 05:51

Alwaysgothiccups · 11/06/2024 01:08

I definitely would call my husband a cunt under my breath in the next room where he couldn't hear me if he pissed me off enough..
And I love that man. I'd do anything for him. We've been together 14 years. He's the love of my life.
Annoys me sometimes tho...

I think venting frustration when you think you are alone is completely different from aggressively swearing at someone.

On here there was recently a thread about a husband who'd read a wife's diary where she had been upset and writing negative things about the marriage.
The general consensus was that he was wrong to read her diary. That it was a place where she could work through her emotions in privacy.

I don't see this scenario as much different.
This man thought he was alone. He wasn't aggressively calling her a cunt he was expressing his annoyance whilst thinking he was alone. This is not something he would have chosen to say to her face.

Have you honestly never been furious in a moment? We can't help feeling our emotions but we cab help how we express them..
Swearing to yourself when you think you are alone is pretty normal imo.
I'd only be worried about this if he had angrily been swearing to her face.

Good post. I agree.

Mydietstartstomorrow · 13/06/2024 05:41

SeverinaVichenza · 13/06/2024 00:31

I’m pretty sure that making abusive comments aimed at somebody’s immutable characteristics is a hate crime, I would see about speaking to your local law enforcement and lodging a hate crime complaint. You can’t let him get away with this disgusting sexist abuse.

Oh I’ve read it all now! 🤣 “I’d like to report my husband for calling me a c*, please stop investigating all the murders, rapes and theft to arrest and charge him”
this was a joke right? Sarcasm yes?!?

JamSlagsNowPlease · 13/06/2024 02:00

I think what a person says under his breath is his own business.

CocoBellaSparkle · 13/06/2024 01:34

ps. sorry my post is incoherent.. just out of hospital and very very bad vision .. hope it makes even a little bit of sense 🙃

CocoBellaSparkle · 13/06/2024 01:30

OP- it’s ALL about context .. some people say this word as ‘banter’ and if they’re ok with that then it’s no problem to anyone else really.

If he said it in a silly ‘sing song’ voice while sighing etc then it was said (imo) like ‘i’ve had enough ,, good night’

If he was drunk /tipsy (only say this cause you’re on holiday ) then drunk could be a factor

if he’s desperately saying this as it’s the ‘straw that broke the camels back’ and just say he’s at the end of his tether and there’s been a build up of him zipping his mouth and this tipped him over the edge and he said it in pure frustration over a build up of things rather then this just being a ‘silly fight over nothing’ as you state

Or he’s never said it and to say it in a serious tone /voice (only you can be the judge of that ) then he hates you

if you think it’s the latter i’d try to make the most of the holiday as NO good will come from ‘talking it over’ while on a lovely probably expensive trip

if it still bothers you or festers at you though when you’re back try writing him an email and/or a verbal frank cinvsrsration .. see how you both genuinely feel about each other .. dont make permanent decisions based on temporary feelings or emotions

this day and age is do common to go to couples counselling .. it’s really no different from hiring a personal trainer for an hour here and there

don’t throw in the towel (just yet) and just for now while you’re on holiday when /if you feel like you wanna vent /go mad it question him have a quick plan B .. you’ve gotta call your mum , you wanna check the girly market stalls and boutiques for window shopping or buying gifts , you wanna go to the indoor pool to get some exercise lengths in as the outdoor pool too noisy busy .. you want to take some she if pictures on your camera/iphone, get stuck into a book ..ANYTHING ! and chances are you’ll be less annoyed as the time passes

always play the long game op .. you’re not doing it for him you’re doing it for you to have a nice end of the holiday and no bad memories of arguments

and lastly remember what’s others say about you says more about THEM then it does YOU .. so this is much easier said then done but try with all your might to not take what anyone says or thinks of you PERSONALLY as what they say and think lies with them and is none of our business. have a wonderful holiday op

Rebusa · 13/06/2024 00:51

WetJune · 11/06/2024 18:31

sadly I’m called that everytime we fight, so daily, I m in envy of everyone lovely husbands who would never used that kind of words, sadly some of us dont have the luck of these amazing DHs , even they looked perfect when we dated or got married …

Sounds awful 😣 hope things get better for you!

Rebusa · 13/06/2024 00:41

LadyMuckRake · 12/06/2024 19:20

wow, what a low bar you must have. Give the poor guy a break?? Why? Is he entitled to call the @RealNewt op a cunt?

and as for your comment ''you'd end up lonely'' well as a single person I'm happy to be single if the alternative is such a fear of being lonely that you'd stay with somebody who called you a cunt.

Weird. Having a ''relationship'' is not like having a job, you don't have to have a shit relationship until you get a better relationship. I think some women get this confused.

Weird. Having a ''relationship'' is not like having a job, you don't have to have a shit relationship until you get a better relationship. I think some women get this confused.

Hear hear! I think men get this confused too though tbf the amount of men I’ve met who are still living with their partner/wife while looking for a new girlfriend is crazy lol

again this is why when some women claim their partners have suddenly left them they don’t realise the man has been planning it for a while

Lillieloola · 13/06/2024 00:36

If my husband ever used the c word I would be referring him to GP and MH team .
Have been married for 35 years and he has never sworn or even remotely been grumpy.Yes maybe a bit stressy but not intimidating.

SeverinaVichenza · 13/06/2024 00:31

I’m pretty sure that making abusive comments aimed at somebody’s immutable characteristics is a hate crime, I would see about speaking to your local law enforcement and lodging a hate crime complaint. You can’t let him get away with this disgusting sexist abuse.

Rebusa · 13/06/2024 00:27

Ohfuckwhatdoidonow · 12/06/2024 23:26

TBH no, it wouldn't be the end of my marriage, but it would be the catalyst for a proper conversation.
If feelings are building up to get to this point, you need to talk and figure out what's going on in your marriage. Otherwise it doesn't spell out good things for your future together.

I'd honestly say that this is a crossroads though, the signs are there, you just have to decide what you're going to do, work at it and make it so this isn't the norm, or do you decide to walk away?

Yeah I agree with this.

I suspect this is the tip of the iceberg and if OP digs deeper she’ll find there’s other things he’s annoyed about but isn’t expressing his feelings which are building up.

And it’s definitely not a leap . Every day on Mumsnet there’s a various threads and posts with women declaring their husband or long term partner has “suddenly” declared they’ve had enough. But as they reflect more they see there were little signs of growing irritation they didn’t pick up on.

ScartlettSole · 12/06/2024 23:48

Bs0u416d · 12/06/2024 21:18

Are people honestly suggesting they would throw they hat in on a marriage because their DH muttered theC word to himself? 😂

Only the daft c*ts 😅, the good c*ts would never 🤣