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This election is making me feel very alienated as an Indian woman

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Carowe · 10/06/2024 22:19

I’m half Indian. There is something incredibly unsavoury going on imo. I’m not a fan of the Tories or Sunak but Farage’s comments in tandem with the insane media storm over Rishi leaving the D-day event early seems racist. The argument that Rishi is not patriotic feels like a dog whistle ie he is not British enough/ a white prime minister would have stayed. All this despite 90,000 Indian soldiers dying in WW2 (I won’t even get into the millions of deaths from famine caused by Brits ransacking India for war supplies).

How many indiscretions did we let Boris get away with?

Very uncomfortable for me.

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ItsFunToBeAVampire · 11/06/2024 08:26

Of course, it was thinly veiled racism.

Unfortunately, there's racism on all sides of politics, remember when Kwasi Kwarteng and Suella Braverman were called coconuts by people on the left?

The further you go, left or right, the more racists there are.

parkrun500club · 11/06/2024 08:26

Reform is a racist party getting far too much airtime from the right-wing media, they don't set the tone for everyone

Yes, I don't know why the media are so mesmerised by him. It's not just the right-wing media, the BBC give him far too much airtime. As a comparison, do people even know who the leader of the Green party in England and Wales is? I'd have to look it up! Why do Reform get all the attention?

Paperweight7 · 11/06/2024 08:25

Whenwillitgetwarm · 10/06/2024 22:42

Of course what Farage said was a dog whistle. In fact it wasn’t even a dog whistle because even humans could hear it.

Farage does this often. Saying something racist then claim he meant something else. He always says it in a calm ‘gentlemanly’ way so as to seem reasonable but he’s done it that often that his intent is clear.

He claims he meant Sunak is too rich and upper class to understand ‘our culture’. This must mean the King also doesn’t understand our culture. Farage himself is from wealth and was a stock broker. Does he not understand our culture? We know what he meant.

Nevertheless I wonder if the right wing non-white, non ethnically English Tories are feeling less smug and more uncomfortable now? People like Patel and Braverman and even Sunak himself who’ve courted the UKIP/Brexit/Reform voters and were ok when they were targeting others e.g staying silent when Farage said he wouldn’t live next to Romanians or saying shit about Muslims. It wasn't racist and all ok then. Remember Patel dancing with Farage at the Tory conference?

Do they now realise he meant them too when he said to stop immigration? When Braverman screams about Britain’s needing to have more babies to out breed foreigners at Nat C conferences, does she realise her brown babies are not wanted?

Farage is disgusting and hopefully more people can see he’s led the country into poverty and international embarrassment. Nevertheless, Sunak helped him. Notice the Tories said almost nothing against Reform racism until today when one of their MPs said Britain should have appeased Hitler? If Farage hadn’t expressly targeted Sunsk yesterday, they would have said fuck all.

Absolutely spot on.

NightSweatsNinja · 11/06/2024 08:24

People don't realise there is a whole team behind Rishi - behind all the leaders in fact - who I'm sure are heavily involved in the scheduling of events during this campaign. It won't have been a 'Rishi' decision alone, it will have been a team decision, surely?

So to blame it on his heritage, speaks volumes to Farage's mentality - racism undertones in whatever way he can.

Gondoliere · 11/06/2024 08:21

@brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr so if people have those concerns they are all far right? I find quite a few things highlighted very concerning. The denial may as well in 4 years have Farage as leading in the polls. I would be happy to revisit these posts. See European elections for some clue.

SnapdragonToadflax · 11/06/2024 08:20

Farage's comments are disgusting, and a clear dog whistle. Please don't think that he (or anyone else saying things like that) speak for the majority of this country.

Farage is a racist and his party attracts racists. Anyone thinking of voting for him needs to take a long hard look at their beliefs.

Rishi Sunak is an absolute idiot and I am astounded he didn't see the D Day event as a huge opportunity, given the people he's trying to appeal to. He is incredibly bad at politics. But also... the media has it in for him now. He's getting a metaphorical kicking because everyone knows the Tories have lost this election, and badly. Sunak being crap is the main story now, and everyone is waiting to see the latest gaff. It'll all be forgotten in four weeks and he'll be a footnote in history, never to be seen again.

CroftonWillow · 11/06/2024 08:16

Farage will say anything he thinks will boost his election prospects. His comments have been criticised by all other parties. Rishi's ethnicity has hardly ever been discussed during his time as PM which speaks volumes and something we should be proud of.

orangeblosssom · 11/06/2024 08:12

AgathaX · 10/06/2024 22:26

I think you're looking for a racist slant on it. He was disrespectful, nothing to do with him being Asian.

He's racist and his comments were as well. Are you his mum?

SocoBateVira · 11/06/2024 08:12

Schoolchoicesucks · 11/06/2024 08:09

I hadn't heard the Farage comments, but agree they do appear racist and said in such a way he can deny that they are.

However I do think that Corbyn would have been given exactly as much grief over leaving ceremony early so I'm not sure that the wider media coverage and criticism is a result of racism.

Usually the way with Farage!

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 11/06/2024 08:09

GB News presenter Darren “crafty wank” Grimes is now sharing AI generated images of Keir Starmer appearing in ways which target all the kinds of minority group people right-wing freakshows are frightened of, including Indian people, muslim people, gay people and apparently women, using stereotypes of course.

Grimes appears to support Reform /
Farage, and is using fake images as propaganda to stoke fears among his more
gullible / prejudiced followers and viewers.

Much of the so-called “legitimate concerns” are born of exaggerations and fear-stoking by propagandists like Grimes.

This election is making me feel very alienated as an Indian woman
This election is making me feel very alienated as an Indian woman
Schoolchoicesucks · 11/06/2024 08:09

I hadn't heard the Farage comments, but agree they do appear racist and said in such a way he can deny that they are.

However I do think that Corbyn would have been given exactly as much grief over leaving ceremony early so I'm not sure that the wider media coverage and criticism is a result of racism.

HRTQueen · 11/06/2024 08:08

I am also half south Asian

We know exactly what Farage was getting at yesterday he is a racist what he said had racist undertones

I am very concerned about Reform too. The Tory party had too many with similar views but there are many good Tory politicians who are dedicated to their role I may not agree with their political stance but they are not hell bent on dividing the country in the way Reform are

I think all parties need to unite against Reform

SkaterGrrrrl · 11/06/2024 08:05

I completely agree. I dislike Rishi but when watching the BBC debate I said to DH, 'Farage is essentially calling Rishi not British'. It wasn't even dog whistle racism, just racism.

David Lammy for Home Secretary!

DancefloorAcrobatics · 11/06/2024 08:03

Well, he did leave early without good reason.

He exposed himself to a lot of speculation... some of it no doubt racist.

CaptainMyCaptain · 11/06/2024 08:03

AgathaX · 10/06/2024 22:26

I think you're looking for a racist slant on it. He was disrespectful, nothing to do with him being Asian.

I agree. I admit I don't read the comments of right wingers but I haven't heard his ethnicity referred to in my circles.

He deliberately appealed to those who would support National Service and vowed to protect pensions and then disrespected a large group of people many of whom who would be in the same groups. Obviously not everyone (not me) but an intersection.

You feel the way you feel but I think most people think Sunak is a twat because he's an inept PM with no people skills not because he has Indian heritage.

SocoBateVira · 11/06/2024 08:02

I think there has been some racism levelled at Rishi over the D Day fiasco. However, it was an appalling decision, even if one personally thinks the response has been overblown (and I absolutely don't, his behaviour was fucking offensive as well as stupid). And anyone in British politics ought to have the sense to understand that you just cannot be seen to put a foot wrong when it comes to war memorials. Look at what happened to Michael Foot and to Corbyn.

Gondoliere · 11/06/2024 07:57

Op not as bad as that. This happened as the left scrutinised and exaggerate everything to the extreme for their agenda. Have you seen the squad here on this. They are at it all day long. Boris was taken out by the social media and of course Sunak took the opportunity to stab him. For me Sunak isn’t a saint or very competent. I believe things would have been much better if Boris would have been the PM until elections. We had Liz Truss much worse and really affected everyone pockets.

You will see once Labour is in all the moaning and pearl clutching would disappear. However, we would become more like the US in terms of the culture wars since Biden. Labour plans are horrible for the erosion of women rights, class, racial division and crime due to uncontrolled immigration. This would bring of course more tension for minorities.

SallyWD · 10/06/2024 23:15

I'm sorry to hear you feel like this. I'm the mum of two half Indian children so I'm always interested to hear experiences of other mixed race people. I personally felt proud that we have an Indian prime minister, to live in a country where people from ethnic minorities can reach the highest level. However, I don't particularly like Rishi or the Conservatives. I did feel uncomfortable wgen I heard the comments made about him in relation to D-Day though. They seemed to want to emphasise his "otherness".

SD1978 · 10/06/2024 23:06

There is racism around him, but has he not also said he plans to bugger off ASAP after losing and live somewhere his wife's squillions will go even further?

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 10/06/2024 23:05

If it had been boris farage wouldn’t have said he doesn't understand our culture. That’s the key bit.

CelesteCunningham · 10/06/2024 22:56

I haven't seen Farage's comments, but him being racist isn't a surprise.

I think in the mainstream, the reaction would have been the same if Boris or anyone else had left early. Apart from anything else, it was just so politically stupid. Of course it attracted lots of negative commentary.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 10/06/2024 22:54

Yes agree op. “Our culture” indeed.

Agree with pp too about he words things in a certain way. He’s v clever and dangerous.

Pin0cchio · 10/06/2024 22:48

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Pin0cchio · 10/06/2024 22:48

I don't know if it reassures you op but most of us think everything that comes out of Nigel Farage's mouth is utter rubbish, this included.

Many people may not be talking about what he said because they are doing their best to ignore him.

pikkumyy77 · 10/06/2024 22:48

Carowe · 10/06/2024 22:20

I do not want our country to become as racially divided as The States.

The UK is plenty racist all on its own. The flavour may taste different but there is no real distinction to be made. Mass murder of indigenes? Theft of children from indigenous patents? Destruction of languages? Slavery? Torture? Abuse of police power? Carceral state? Differential health outcomes for different races? Racism is out and proud in the UK.