To find what’s happened to Michael Mosley quite anxiety provoking

Ugh @newbathroomhelplease how smug and shortsighted- you are
already in significant danger from hanging by your own massive judgeypants.

@headstone what is the risk to people, especially men, over 40 of doing vigorous exercise?

It's not something I'm aware of as an almost 50 year old woman.

I don't think the "old" people who I see at my local park run, half marathon or swim events are aware that participating is risky.

Should we be limiting our exercise to the non vigorous variety?

@Calliopespa I agree too, his position was laid out straight and not a falling position.

Fucking hell.

Clever, smug old you.

He took ages to walk from one post to the next - a distance of about 30m- so he was either stumbling about or moving like a sloth.

It’s very upsetting. I’m glad they have not released the footage and hope his family don’t see it.

I agree with the poster who said it sounds like he lay himself down in that position.

Yes it's possible that it would still have been too late to save him, but if he'd got out of the sun 30 minutes earlier, and had water and ice placed on him, then he would have stood a chance.

Ice packs placed under the arms would cool the body fairly quickly.

I feel comforted that I'd never make the choices he made that led to his death.

Never ever.

@MidnightMeltdown, if the fence hadn’t been there it might have made a difference but that’s not certain. I just read this in a DM article about Levison Wood’s companion dying of heatstroke (@crackofdoom’s post prompted me to Google that story as I hadn’t heard of Wood or his expedition):

‘When your body's internal temperature gets above 39C, it effectively starts to shut down. Once the process begins you have about 30 minutes to cool down before you slip into a coma, and eventually death.’

So even if MM had made it to the bar instead of spending 30 minutes moving about outside the fence, it may well have already been too late, especially given there was no hospital on the island.

It is so shocking. I will forever respect the power of the heat and sun now. I've 99% avoided it as I'm pale as hell but I've had a few moments living abroad where I was a typical brit lapping up the heat and had sunstroke twice. It's scary how quickly things can turn. Oh Michael ☹️

@Forfuckssaketheearthisnotflat

Yes it's extremely sad. If the fence hadn't been there, then I guess that he might have made it, but those last crucial 30 mins were wasted.

My guess is that he started feeling faint, and was potentially starting to lose his vision, so he lay down intentionally to try to push the blood back towards the heart. He really fought until the end.

Thanks for reminding us of that. Some of the dire climate predictions are already coming to pass, unfortunately.

India is another level though, it’s like 50 degrees there right now and humid too. I was there in winter when it was 22-23 and everyone was in puffer coats and hats!

Literally hundreds of people have died in India of heatstroke this year. It's just that they don't make any headlines.

Three of them were OK, but one of them went from normal to a coma over the course of a mile

It’s shocking how fast it happens.
Same with MM- seen striding along on good form in the CCTV in the village, and then dead 2 hours later. Shocking.

Yep. I’m a lizard with underactive thyroid and thrive in 30+ degrees. And have to wear a coat in the office when meeting rooms are 17 degrees. 🙈 Whereas my friend is sweating and really struggles in 25 degrees. So some people are definitely more susceptible to heat stroke than others.

But given the countries that are hot all year round and people successfully work in those temps, I’m a) shocked this happened to someone fit and healthy, b) shocked that the public reaction seems to be “don’t go outside in hot weather and you’re stupid if you do” rather than, it was an unfortunate accident.

And workers outside do die in the heat in very hot countries.

When you are out with others, someone can see if you are getting heatstroke and get you help.

Yes in terms of not going off on your own somewhere very secluded, can’t say I’ve done that. But going out in blazing midday heat - millions of people do this, not just on holiday but in many countries construction workers and farmers have to work in these temperatures and do not die. So he may have had some other health problem or emergency that meant this was particularly dangerous for him.

In terms of real-life risks - driving, eating UPF, being obese and even the fire-retardants in our furniture are probably a higher risk to all of us.

@Rubbishconfession Yeah sorry I worded it wrong, pacing indicates speed and flat surface, what I read was that he was going back and forth stumbling over the rocks for half an hr, going back on himself instead of travelling down in a straight line.

I wonder how posters think people who live in countries where it is always hot in summer get on? Do they imagine everyone cowers inside until the evenings? People actually work outside in very hot weather in some places.

What he did seems risky, especially being in a hotter country than he is used to and probably taking the wrong turn, however some of these posts are just silly.

I said this upthread, but I'll say it again.

People don't all have the same susceptibility to heat stroke. Think of the soldiers who occasionally die of it on exercises on the Brecon Beacons- they're out with a whole load of others, most of whom escape unscathed.

Or the guy who joined Levison Wood for a leg of his walk along the Nile. Four young men climbed up a shadeless hill on a particularly hot day in Uganda. Three of them were OK, but one of them went from normal to a coma over the course of a mile, dying before they could get him anywhere close to medical help.

One thing that distinguished that man from his 3 companions is that they were all acclimatised to the African heat, whereas he'd flown straight from a NYC winter.

This could well have been a factor for MM too- I gather it was the second day of his holiday.

Yes, not pacing up and down. That sounds too energetic.

Well that's a totally different scenario then isn't it ...

But his plan wasn't a 3 hour hike.