To find what’s happened to Michael Mosley quite anxiety provoking

Definitely more awareness and yes his fame will help spread that message. He's unintentionally going to help a lot of people even in death as he did in life, and I think the adventurous and experimental side of him would be satisfied with that (if it happened a lot later in life though) His contribution to helping people is endless, his videos, his advice, his sad death and his legacy will keep going and helping millions.

I made a split second stupid decision once that could have resulted in severe injury or death and was lucky for me that it didn’t. I sometimes think about it and it does frighten me because I otherwise would think of myself as an intelligent and sensible person but on that occasion I wasn’t. It is possible that anybody can risk assess things poorly. However we mostly do manage to survive and learn from mistakes and near misses. Like you say OP we would never do anything if we worried about everything.

So for those who keep a certain weight for health reasons, not vanity, that shows a certain humility that we are not invincible

At the end of the day, what happened to MM and all the discussions following it must result in more awareness of the importance of planning, risk evaluation, etc. I'd like to think that ultimately it will lead to fewer people suffering the same kind of problems that MM faced.

I know that the likes of RNLI, mountain rescue, cave rescue, etc., are always telling people to take precautions, plan better, be better equipped, etc., but they never get the same kind of universal coverage that the MM situation has had.

Can only be a good think in the long run.

But as others said right at the start of this thread, perhaps we need to get back to having the public information films that used to be common on TV, i.e. where a bloke talks to his wife "Petunia" and starts waving back to a couple of people in difficulties in a rubber dinghy in the sea! Maybe make them compulsory on youtube, tiktok, facebook and other social media platforms.

So lifestyle choices are effective then

so no longer being fertile is the beginning of the end for women - so when do mens bodies 'wind down'?

That’s what I’ve heard. And it makes intrinsic sense too. The human body was designed by nature to wind down in later years, hence menopause etc.

Our hunting days, reproductive days etc to be put behind us. Wisdom however becomes our contribution!

To me it’s acceptance of this cycle of life that constitutes true humility about the human condition.

@Disturbia81 thank you for replying. Maybe for people like you and I it is down to a different way of expressing ourselves.

For me, the so many of the posts sound very harsh and critical. I dislike the tone as to me it sounds really unkind and unfair given that IMO everyone makes the best choice that they can at any time, that he so sadly died and that berating MM's choices in hindsight is nasty.

But maybe that is not how other people feel about being critical, maybe it's not nasty to them.....

Sending you an unmumsnetty hug as I too am really saddened by the loss of such a lovely man.

I’m not sure I do see it that way.

I’m within healthy weight but if im honest it’s probably more vanity and comfort that would prompt me to maintain it. I wouldn’t describe that as humility.

He lowered his blood sugar levels with lifestyle rather than drugs but that doesn't mean he was "cured" of type 2 diabetes - the pancreas still wouldn't have been responding as well to blood sugar as it would be in someone without type 2 diabetes. Lifestyle advice is always recommended before starting drug treatment in people with type 2 diabetes and while does initially keep blood sugar levels down the disease usually progresses so that drugs are needed too to keep the sugar levels down.

Merchant.

It was indeed possible to send a radio message, but generally not done unless something quite serious happened. I have a copy of the telegram they sent when I was born, for example.

We really take connectivity and travel itself for granted, even over land long distance calls then were quite poor quality, and very expensive. People who moved away to a different country quite often might never return again, or perhaps only a few times in their life.

And it was normal for children and teenagers to walk to school and be out and about without any way to contact them.

I suppose I understand that younger people feel anxious about being out of touch though I think it's very mentally unhealthy. But I am always surprised when older people do and talk as if the idea of being out of touch is unthinkable and dangerous. Did they just stay in the house until cell phones were widely available?

Merchant.

It was indeed possible to send a radio message, but generally not done unless something quite serious happened. I have a copy of the telegram they sent when I was born, for example.

We really take connectivity and travel itself for granted, even over land long distance calls then were quite poor quality, and very expensive. People who moved away to a different country quite often might never return again, or perhaps only a few times in their life.

And it was normal for children and teenagers to walk to school and be out and about without any way to contact them.

I suppose I understand that younger people feel anxious about being out of touch though I think it's very mentally unhealthy. But I am always surprised when older people do and talk as if the idea of being out of touch is unthinkable and dangerous. Did they just stay in the house until cell phones were widely available?

At the end of the day, what happened to MM and all the discussions following it must result in more awareness of the importance of planning, risk evaluation, etc. I'd like to think that ultimately it will lead to fewer people suffering the same kind of problems that MM faced.

I know that the likes of RNLI, mountain rescue, cave rescue, etc., are always telling people to take precautions, plan better, be better equipped, etc., but they never get the same kind of universal coverage that the MM situation has had.

Can only be a good think in the long run.

But as others said right at the start of this thread, perhaps we need to get back to having the public information films that used to be common on TV, i.e. where a bloke talks to his wife "Petunia" and starts waving back to a couple of people in difficulties in a rubber dinghy in the sea! Maybe make them compulsory on youtube, tiktok, facebook and other social media platforms.

I don’t know if science backs it up, but my instinct is that hard cardio exercise is probably more risky the older you get, whereas strength and flexibility work are particularly beneficial the older we get.

I don’t know if that’s the case but it’s what I tell myself as someone approaching 50 who is a cardio-dodger and loves weights and yoga!

I don’t know if science backs it up, but my instinct is that hard cardio exercise is probably more risky the older you get, whereas strength and flexibility work are particularly beneficial the older we get.

I don’t know if that’s the case but it’s what I tell myself as someone approaching 50 who is a cardio-dodger and loves weights and yoga!

@Disturbia81, I agree that many people are just really sad that this has happened and feel for his family and friends.

But I have seen a surprising amount of posters being very harsh, critical and judgemental about MM's decisions. It has taken me aback and made me really thoughtful about how many people are comfortable criticising someone who was only human.

Surely the desire to keep fit and healthy and within a healthy weight range is an example of having humility when it comes to the human condition

Didn't mm cure his type 2 diabetes by fasting?

I agree with this.

And the reason I speak out is there is a nasty underbelly ( evident on these forums) of blame that accompany these control mindsets. Going to the gym or eating certain foods, above all not being obese- God forbid: those NHS crippling gluttons - will win the day.

Ergo, if you don’t win the day, you brought it on yourself.

And I just don’t think it’s that simple. The oldest people I have known have been little old ladies who never perspired, let alone set foot in a gym, and ate scones every day for afternoon tea. With jam.

A lot of the early demises have been people who did everything they could to stave it off ( including a couple of sad cases of that heart failure during sport: I forget the acronym) .

People just need to have a little more humility about the human condition. And a little more appreciation of each and all of us while we are here.