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To find what’s happened to Michael Mosley quite anxiety provoking

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Glasto73lover · 10/06/2024 18:14

It’s that idea of never really knowing what’s going to happen- the idea that we walk such a fine line in life. If you think too much about it, you probably wouldn’t leave the house.!

A close family member died suddenly and tragically a decade ago - literally dropped dead at home age 48 - something went pop in their head. So you genuinely don’t know when your time is up.

It’s that idea of a chain of consequence that can go so horribly wrong too- people always say ‘oh but you could get hit by a bus’ - stuff like this actually makes me really anxious. So many what ifs.

For Michael Moseley - a chain of probably inconsequential decisions may have led to his death- not having a phone on him, choosing to undertake a walk that in the U.K. is nothing but in that heat, was devastating and probably caused his death.

It makes me anxious that I won’t know if I am making those decisions - am I making sense? I think as I have got older, I have become more anxious and risk averse (thanks menopause) and as a result, you could end up not leaving the house. How do you choose a sensible approach? Not too much risk but some!

But I also want to live my life too!! I guess I find incidents like this quite difficult!

I guess always having a phone, not undertaking walks in intense heat in an unfamiliar place etc are the common sense points that will come out of this tragedy.

Aibu to find it anxiety provoking tho?!

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blackfuchsia · 10/06/2024 21:20

Marinade · 10/06/2024 21:14

I totally agree, such basic and rudimentary errors. I cannot eulogise the man, its sad but compared to the many many tragic and horrific things we see happen (particularly to children and vulnerable people who do not have MM's wealth and intellect), it really is not impactful (not withstanding to his family of course).

He certainly made an impact on me with his programmes. I’ve changed many things I do because of him and he had a lot more to give. He was an extraordinary man in many ways.

betterangels · 10/06/2024 21:20

Glasto73lover · 10/06/2024 20:16

Well I find all you emotionless ghouls that aren’t affected by world events pretty weird too tbh

It's not a world event. And your personal attack is uncalled for.

SackofSweets · 10/06/2024 21:20

I get anxious but I actually think dropping dead sounds perfect.

cakeorwine · 10/06/2024 21:19

I can look back at my life and things that I've done that could be foolhardy.

Assessing risk and taking sensible precautions to reduce the risk - I've walked in heat before and that was in a big city. I can't imagine what it must have been like walking in that heat - and then slowly developing heat stroke.

We can assess our risk when we do activities - and take steps to minimise the risk

Ozanj · 10/06/2024 21:18

Ilovemyshed · 10/06/2024 18:42

Well, to be fair, he was walking at lunchtime, the hottest part of the day, in almost 40 degree temps, with "a" bottle of water and no way of contacting anyone. He got lost, confused by dehydration and collapsed it appears.

I'd say that whilst unintentional, it was misjudged and quite risky and he sadly paid with his life.

This. His death was utterly preventable and I’m sure that while his family are distraught they are also angry too.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 10/06/2024 21:18

I'm far more worried by the idea of a slow death by a terminal illness, or a descent into dementia, than a sudden death tbh. I'd rather not know it was coming. As for solitary walking - I would never do that anywhere remote or at all far from home, as I am appalling at finding my way anywhere.

wombat15 · 10/06/2024 21:17

fitbiscuit · 10/06/2024 21:12

Michael Mosley's death is so desperately sad and I think pretty much everyone is upset about it. I think in a way it is really sad in that he had put in a lot of work to beat his own genetics to try and live a longer, healthier life with his family and he then shared his experiences with us. It's difficult because he died as you say due a series of choices that put him on a path nobody would have expected and the fact that if even one thing had been different then the outcome might have been different is tough to get your head round, but it could literally happen to anyone. Then at the same time it is kind of comforting to know that it wasn't a heart attack or stroke because then his legacy that you can make positive changes that out smart your genetics can live on if you see what I mean?

As for everyone it is true, we never know the day and we should all be more grateful for the time we do have with our loved ones when we and they are here.

He might have had a heart attack or stroke though. They don't know why he died yet. Even if it wasn't a heart attack or stroke we also don't know that his advice was correct and that he had "out smarted" his genetics because he didn't get to the age most of his male relatives who did die from heart disease.

RogersOrganismicProcess · 10/06/2024 21:16

How very lovely that some people get to wake up happily, with joy and a sense of adventure, not knowing that this day will be the day that they die.

No worrying diagnosis, no drawn out suffering and decline, no heartache knowing time with loved ones is limited, and worrying what will become of them. No feelings of guilt for leaving people behind or seeing/imagining them suffer. Just living life in the moment with a joyful imagined future stretched out like an innocent illusion.

However, for the family it is incredibly tough to loose a loved on so suddenly. My thoughts are with his wife, children and brother.

Gondoliere · 10/06/2024 21:16

I also feel like he should knew the risks. I was thinking he helped so many people so surely he had a lot of good karma but dying like this was so sad. It was in a way very unfair from this point of view.

SecretSquirreling · 10/06/2024 21:15

Glasto73lover · 10/06/2024 20:16

Well I find all you emotionless ghouls that aren’t affected by world events pretty weird too tbh

I think this response has highlighted to me exactly why I find it so distasteful.

This isn't a 'world event'. It's one family's private tragedy. Or it would have been were it not for the fact his work as a doctor took him on to TV (how and why that happened is irrelevant).

It wasn't a terrorist attack, a war or a natural disaster. It was a family holiday that ended in tragedy because of series of events which occurred following the private and personal decisions of one infallible human. And the result of these will be felt by his entire family and anyone who personally knew him for years to come.

And long after you have found another 'world event' to ruminate over.

BeaRF75 · 10/06/2024 21:14

Moving on from the specific case (which has had far too much coverage), the reality is that any of us could die at any time. And that's fine..... if I die tonight, so what? I probably won't know anything about it. Far better than doddering on in poor health until I'm 90 or - even worse - the unimaginable horror of living forever!
We should all just make the most of how much or little time we have, enjoy ourselves, stop stressing and, above all, stop fussing about our ailments. What will be, will be.....

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 10/06/2024 21:14

TwixOwl · 10/06/2024 21:11

If he was feeling unwell maybe he would have sadly died that day anyway back at the hotel. My husband's work colleague said he was going for a walk as didn't feel right. An hour or so later he died suddenly in the street.

This is my thought too. He previously stated that there were heart problems in his family.

Marinade · 10/06/2024 21:14

wombat15 · 10/06/2024 21:06

While everyone makes mistakes his was the type of error you would expect noone over the age of 25 to make. A rookie error from someone who spent his career advising and sometimes criticising people for the way they did things.

I totally agree, such basic and rudimentary errors. I cannot eulogise the man, its sad but compared to the many many tragic and horrific things we see happen (particularly to children and vulnerable people who do not have MM's wealth and intellect), it really is not impactful (not withstanding to his family of course).

notacooldad · 10/06/2024 21:13

I just think once your time's up death will get you one way or another. For example, if you get so frightened to go out if in case something happens, you may trip and fall down the stairs.
Micheal Mosley actively sought to love a long and healthy life and did everything possible. Even not taking his phone was probably deliberate as he said he often left it behind to live in the moment. Death found a way of getting him.

wombat15 · 10/06/2024 21:13

TwixOwl · 10/06/2024 21:11

If he was feeling unwell maybe he would have sadly died that day anyway back at the hotel. My husband's work colleague said he was going for a walk as didn't feel right. An hour or so later he died suddenly in the street.

Very true.

fitbiscuit · 10/06/2024 21:12

Michael Mosley's death is so desperately sad and I think pretty much everyone is upset about it. I think in a way it is really sad in that he had put in a lot of work to beat his own genetics to try and live a longer, healthier life with his family and he then shared his experiences with us. It's difficult because he died as you say due a series of choices that put him on a path nobody would have expected and the fact that if even one thing had been different then the outcome might have been different is tough to get your head round, but it could literally happen to anyone. Then at the same time it is kind of comforting to know that it wasn't a heart attack or stroke because then his legacy that you can make positive changes that out smart your genetics can live on if you see what I mean?

As for everyone it is true, we never know the day and we should all be more grateful for the time we do have with our loved ones when we and they are here.

TwixOwl · 10/06/2024 21:11

If he was feeling unwell maybe he would have sadly died that day anyway back at the hotel. My husband's work colleague said he was going for a walk as didn't feel right. An hour or so later he died suddenly in the street.

Miriad · 10/06/2024 21:10

I think we’re all shocked because it was just so avoidable. People don’t generally die because they’ve gone for a 1.5 mile walk.

TwixOwl · 10/06/2024 21:09

I can't stop thinking about this case.

I suppose if he had an umbrella it blocked his view slightly and where he was going. He may have missed a sign.

What I don't understand is when he got to the top, he must have seen that going to way he was going wasn't the right way, but he kept on going?

Maybe he ended up walking that way to see his family/friends across the bay again.

I just find it tragic.

I just can't understand why the people at that holiday resort didn't walk up to the fence or look around the premises if someone was missing.

wombat15 · 10/06/2024 21:06

While everyone makes mistakes his was the type of error you would expect noone over the age of 25 to make. A rookie error from someone who spent his career advising and sometimes criticising people for the way they did things.

Palomabalom · 10/06/2024 21:06

Pigeonqueen · 10/06/2024 20:31

I think it’s a really stark reminder that we are all mortal.

I would imagine that being a doctor and having been able to reverse some of his health issues through diet and the fasting stuff made him feel quite invincible. So many healthy people think like this. They think because they exercise, eat well and whatever else that they’re giving themselves some protective bubble that makes them less susceptible to things than others. It’s very tiresome.

I have chronic and severe autoimmune issues. I’ve learnt the hard way that sometimes our bodies really are just our worst enemies whatever we do to them or put in them.

Couldn’t agree more. Whenever death or tragedy occur it seems humans want to distance themselves and give any number of reasons why such a fate has befallen the deceased and the reasons why it would never happen to them. It could be “ I would never jet ski so it wouldn’t happen to me “ to “ I’m fit and healthy they ate too many takeaways/ it would never happen to me”. The point is it absolutely could happen to anyone at anytime. Sure some people take more risks than others but people die all the time who don’t expect to. People who don’t take risks/ people crossing the road, sitting at home, death is part of life . Let’s not pretend the poor guy did something incredibly radical here. He obviously went for a walk and took a shade with him . He got lost as a result of being taken unwell. It could happen to anyone. We just have to have acceptance that we will all die at some point. There really isn’t anything much to be done to prevent it. You can certainly try to slow a small proportion of disease but so much is outside our control accidents, crime, cancers, neurological and motor diseases. Just see each day as a bonus and try to savour the glimmers of happiness

Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 10/06/2024 21:06

christmaspudding43 · 10/06/2024 19:27

I find it quite comforting actually, as weird as that sounds. I'm very sorry for his family and understand they and his friends have had an awful few days and I wouldn't wish that on them, or indeed my own family and friends.

But to die on holiday with my partner and friends, with not too much knowledge of what was about to happen? Having achieved professional success and with a long and happy relationship? And having enjoyed pretty good health right up to the end? I think there are much worse ways/stages of life to go and I kind of find it comforting that that kind of death might be on the cards rather than a long drawn out, fearful one.

This is a nice way to think of it x

PassingStranger · 10/06/2024 21:05

Gettingbysomehow · 10/06/2024 18:23

I feel absolutely furious with him. Quite unreasonably as I don't know him. Why did a medical doctor think it was OK to go for a long walk in 40 degree heat at the height of the day with one very small bottle of water and no phone????
He wasn't young either. He was 67.
Sheer stupidity.
Now his wife is on her own for her whole retirement. He won't see his kids marry or have children.
Older single women as I know very well often get abandoned by their married friends after the husband has gone. It takes time but in couple of years she will be lonely.
The utter stupidity of the whole thing made me feel sick and depressed.

Things happen and he wasn't expecting to die.
Always wise after the event.

JanglingJack · 10/06/2024 21:04

Marinade · 10/06/2024 20:50

I think he purposefully went towards Agia Marina rather than the direct route by road though. So whether it was a wrong turn is something of a moot point.

Having done a lot of cliff walking in France, I can see that even if he'd realised he'd taken a wrong turn, that knowing the area he'd be better to go up and over for a quicker route to civilisation.

Like you say it's a moot point now.

Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 10/06/2024 21:01

blackfuchsia · 10/06/2024 19:06

I just feel very sad about it. He was a wonderful broadcaster. I listened to a lot of his podcasts and feel he had a lot more to offer. Nothing compared to his family of course.

So do l. I thoroughly enjoyed his podcasts and programmes and he came across so well.
Just so sad.

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