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To find what’s happened to Michael Mosley quite anxiety provoking

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Glasto73lover · 10/06/2024 18:14

It’s that idea of never really knowing what’s going to happen- the idea that we walk such a fine line in life. If you think too much about it, you probably wouldn’t leave the house.!

A close family member died suddenly and tragically a decade ago - literally dropped dead at home age 48 - something went pop in their head. So you genuinely don’t know when your time is up.

It’s that idea of a chain of consequence that can go so horribly wrong too- people always say ‘oh but you could get hit by a bus’ - stuff like this actually makes me really anxious. So many what ifs.

For Michael Moseley - a chain of probably inconsequential decisions may have led to his death- not having a phone on him, choosing to undertake a walk that in the U.K. is nothing but in that heat, was devastating and probably caused his death.

It makes me anxious that I won’t know if I am making those decisions - am I making sense? I think as I have got older, I have become more anxious and risk averse (thanks menopause) and as a result, you could end up not leaving the house. How do you choose a sensible approach? Not too much risk but some!

But I also want to live my life too!! I guess I find incidents like this quite difficult!

I guess always having a phone, not undertaking walks in intense heat in an unfamiliar place etc are the common sense points that will come out of this tragedy.

Aibu to find it anxiety provoking tho?!

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Glasto73lover · 10/06/2024 21:47

Harassedmum123 · 10/06/2024 21:42

Three years ago, something literally did go ‘pop’ in my head. I was 40 years old and it happened completely unexpectedly, without any prior warning. I spent just under a week in hospital recovering from the brain haemorrhage but I live life now as if every day could be my last! I know it sounds corny but it’s true.
I feel so, so sad for Michael Mosley. Such a lovely man, his poor family left without a husband and father. However at least he seemed to have lived a happy life and made a lot of difference to a great many people.

Glad you are ok now - must have been scary. My relative had a cerebral haemorrhage but sadly didn’t make it- there were signs for the weeks before including a ‘thunderclap’ headache but no one picked up on it. It’s definitely given me more of an anxiety about these kinds of events xx

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blueshoes · 10/06/2024 21:45

Thingybob · 10/06/2024 21:41

"Don't be so afraid of dying that you forget to live"

The wisest words on this thread.

So true.

Life is literally too short to be spent worrying about things like this. Shit happens.

Doodleflips · 10/06/2024 21:44

Op, your feelings are completely valid, but it’s important to have some perspective too.
what happened to Michael Mosley is absolutely terrible, but it was a tragic accident.
If it causes you anxiety and worry to this level, would you consider going for some cbt? Life is for living.

GreekGod · 10/06/2024 21:44

I don’t get the anxiety provoking or the shock. We live on a Greek island and no one apart from tourists walk in the extreme heat. We don’t go out between 10 and 6 and only into an air conditioned car with windows firmly closed. I just don’t understand the tourist mentality. Not surprisingly what happened to Dr Moseley is not that rare when tourists visit our island or they go for a swim in a beach clearly sign posted having underwater currents - beggars belief why someone would do this.

Harassedmum123 · 10/06/2024 21:42

Three years ago, something literally did go ‘pop’ in my head. I was 40 years old and it happened completely unexpectedly, without any prior warning. I spent just under a week in hospital recovering from the brain haemorrhage but I live life now as if every day could be my last! I know it sounds corny but it’s true.
I feel so, so sad for Michael Mosley. Such a lovely man, his poor family left without a husband and father. However at least he seemed to have lived a happy life and made a lot of difference to a great many people.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 10/06/2024 21:41

Gettingbysomehow · 10/06/2024 18:23

I feel absolutely furious with him. Quite unreasonably as I don't know him. Why did a medical doctor think it was OK to go for a long walk in 40 degree heat at the height of the day with one very small bottle of water and no phone????
He wasn't young either. He was 67.
Sheer stupidity.
Now his wife is on her own for her whole retirement. He won't see his kids marry or have children.
Older single women as I know very well often get abandoned by their married friends after the husband has gone. It takes time but in couple of years she will be lonely.
The utter stupidity of the whole thing made me feel sick and depressed.

I was struggling to place the feeling, but yes I think I feel this too… especially the recent interview that said he wants to grow old to see his grandkids etc. I can’t stop wondering what on earth he was thinking. His poor wife.

Thingybob · 10/06/2024 21:41

"Don't be so afraid of dying that you forget to live"

The wisest words on this thread.

WayOutOfLine · 10/06/2024 21:40

I think having a mobile makes us feel invincible, but until 25 years ago, no-one had one, we went out all the time with people not knowing exactly where we were.

If you have ever had your phone run out of battery when you need it, you could be 'blamed'- but these things happen all the time.

You could chip everyone and know where they were at all times. No thanks.

There is a price paid for freedom, he might have felt free during that walk, went the wrong way, became confused and suddenly that 'media detox' he was going to write about went wrong, very wrong.

There but for the Grace of God and all that.

NasiDagang · 10/06/2024 21:37

Gettingbysomehow · 10/06/2024 18:23

I feel absolutely furious with him. Quite unreasonably as I don't know him. Why did a medical doctor think it was OK to go for a long walk in 40 degree heat at the height of the day with one very small bottle of water and no phone????
He wasn't young either. He was 67.
Sheer stupidity.
Now his wife is on her own for her whole retirement. He won't see his kids marry or have children.
Older single women as I know very well often get abandoned by their married friends after the husband has gone. It takes time but in couple of years she will be lonely.
The utter stupidity of the whole thing made me feel sick and depressed.

Why would she get abandoned by her married friends? Surely they will be supporting her. It's a horrible thing to say!

UserNumber56 · 10/06/2024 21:34

Don't be so afraid of dying that you forget to live, OP.

We're all going to die. We're all on the same journey. Best thing is to enjoy the ride and not fret about how long it will be till we reach the destination. There isn't a timetable, so none of us knows.

rockstarshoes · 10/06/2024 21:33

I am 58, when I was 34 my husband had a heart attack in the middle of the night & died in our house he was we thought fit & healthy, he was 39!

I was absolutely furious with him at times for absolutely no reason other than dying!

I am again furious today on behalf of MM's wife, why didn't he wait for the boat, get on the bus, stop & have a drink in one of the restaurants, shout when he got so close to the resort.

It feels like such a waste of a life & a man who was doing so much for other people, I was in tears today listening to James O'Brien who had people phoning in to say how he had helped them & changed their lives!

It's such a tragedy! And I'm really sorry for his family!
My husband went out for his daily walk today, no distance - but I checked he had his phone!

BogRollBOGOF · 10/06/2024 21:31

My dad died suddenly from lifestyle illness when I was a child. There were opportunities for medical intervention that could have resulted in reducing the risk of death, but his pride resulted in him downplaying the severity of his symptoms, and the GP was lacking in their response given his medical history.

This is why I have an interest in health and fitness. I'm not going to be immortal, nor would I want to be, but living a healthy, active lifestyle improves my odds of living well within my lifespan. There are no guarentees though. If nothing else, I'll have enjoyed life along the way and when I've got away with stupid shit, it'll give my loved ones some funny memories to laugh over at my funeral.

I've blundered into stupid shit and got away with it. I'm sure there's plenty more daft moments ahead despite my best efforts at planning. To eliminate the risk of that by living life as conservatively as possible isn't worth it to me.

It's tragic and no doubt an abrupt death where there were opportunities to avoid that situation will trigger anger as part of the grief process of his loved ones. Sudden death is hard for the bereaved, but there's also the flip side that suffering was not prolonged. MM often referred to his father's premature death and that he was also reaching early stages of ongoing poor health which he managed to turn around. I hope at some point it is a consoltion that while his death is premature, it was not preceeded by years of potentially preventable poor health inhibiting his quality of life which he strived to avoid.

I shall miss his pragmatic, accessible approach to improving health.

LiterallyOnFire · 10/06/2024 21:30

TwixOwl · 10/06/2024 21:11

If he was feeling unwell maybe he would have sadly died that day anyway back at the hotel. My husband's work colleague said he was going for a walk as didn't feel right. An hour or so later he died suddenly in the street.

Maybe, but even that might have been less traumatic (and private) for him and for his family than this huge search, with all the uncertainty and journalists picking over everything.

Which isn't to heap blame on the poor man.

The small "good" that this "ill wind" can bring is if we all quietly learn the lessons of MM's misjudgment. It's how we gain a lot of wisdom through life.

BingoMarieHeeler · 10/06/2024 21:29

Why would that be unreasonable? 😵‍💫

blackfuchsia · 10/06/2024 21:26

wombat15 · 10/06/2024 21:21

If you followed his advise on fasting the fact that he changed the way you did things may not have been a good thing.

I didn’t.

StMarieforme · 10/06/2024 21:25

DaisyChain505 · 10/06/2024 18:29

I’m sorry to sound cold but this incident was a case of you play silly games and you win silly prizes.

Going for a walk in an unknown place in extreme heat without the correct resources or enough water and without a phone!

But she didn't play any silly games did she? And now she will have to deal with the consequences for decades.

wonderingwandering99 · 10/06/2024 21:24

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StMarieforme · 10/06/2024 21:23

Gettingbysomehow · 10/06/2024 18:23

I feel absolutely furious with him. Quite unreasonably as I don't know him. Why did a medical doctor think it was OK to go for a long walk in 40 degree heat at the height of the day with one very small bottle of water and no phone????
He wasn't young either. He was 67.
Sheer stupidity.
Now his wife is on her own for her whole retirement. He won't see his kids marry or have children.
Older single women as I know very well often get abandoned by their married friends after the husband has gone. It takes time but in couple of years she will be lonely.
The utter stupidity of the whole thing made me feel sick and depressed.

I'm baffled by this too. It's so bizarre.

Karatema · 10/06/2024 21:23

I'm a fatalist. I believe when it's our time to go you can do nothing about it!
Those people who avoided the 9:11 flights weren't meant to go; those who did - it was their time.

qwertyasdfgzxcv · 10/06/2024 21:23

DaisyChain505 · 10/06/2024 18:29

I’m sorry to sound cold but this incident was a case of you play silly games and you win silly prizes.

Going for a walk in an unknown place in extreme heat without the correct resources or enough water and without a phone!

He got lost from a path. I'm not really sure but most of it was straightforward paths until he veered off onto the rocky terrain. Maybe he was feeling unwell and thought it would be a shortcut

Maia77 · 10/06/2024 21:22

I'm surprised, given his medical training, that he wasn't aware how dangerous physical exertion in such hot weather is. If that was a slow, shaded walk he set off on he would have probably been ok, but he was in the open, under the blazing sun and the umbrella was pretty much useless as it couldn't have protected him from the heat.

notacooldad · 10/06/2024 21:22

For people being angry about that he took a risk and should have known better, I wonder if their lives are completely risk free. Have they never made a split second decision that normally goes against their better judgement but thought 'go on, it'll be aright' I know I have.
Maybe he thought the villa wasn't as far as it was, maybe he thought that it would be tough going but he could chill when he got back. Who knows but random people do not have the right to be angry without knowing the facts.
We ha e all done dumb stuff at some point in our lives.

wombat15 · 10/06/2024 21:21

blackfuchsia · 10/06/2024 21:20

He certainly made an impact on me with his programmes. I’ve changed many things I do because of him and he had a lot more to give. He was an extraordinary man in many ways.

If you followed his advise on fasting the fact that he changed the way you did things may not have been a good thing.

betterangels · 10/06/2024 21:21

SecretSquirreling · 10/06/2024 21:15

I think this response has highlighted to me exactly why I find it so distasteful.

This isn't a 'world event'. It's one family's private tragedy. Or it would have been were it not for the fact his work as a doctor took him on to TV (how and why that happened is irrelevant).

It wasn't a terrorist attack, a war or a natural disaster. It was a family holiday that ended in tragedy because of series of events which occurred following the private and personal decisions of one infallible human. And the result of these will be felt by his entire family and anyone who personally knew him for years to come.

And long after you have found another 'world event' to ruminate over.

Exactly this.

ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie · 10/06/2024 21:21

I would rather see it as a sign to live every day as if it could be my last.