To find what’s happened to Michael Mosley quite anxiety provoking

That’s ok, enjoy your holiday.

It was a series of unfortunate events. Whilst anyone could all end up in that position as none of us are infallible that we cannot rule it out. There's absolutely no point in ruminating over it.

Nope, just me living my best life.

This honestly sounds awful to me- 25 in the winter, no thanks! It is my turn to choose a holiday this year and it won’t be a holiday at 40, where last year, you can’t do anything for most of the day! I find it really boring but horses for courses and all that.

Oh it's a raving Dutton simp from Queensland, what a surprise.

This is rubbish.

MM did not die because of climate change. He died because he went hiking at the hottest time of day, with little water, and no phone and then he apparently got lost.

Greece is a hot country, that is why Brits flock there every year for a bit of sun, you have to respect the weather and act accordingly.

I live in Queensland, Australia, one of the warmest places on earth. We are not all dropping dead of heat stroke although we might do if we don’t prepare for the sunshine, which I may add is one of the best things about living here.

It is winter here just now and we have blue sky and 25 degrees, I’m actually wearing a jumper as this feels quite cool to me.

Here in Australia we have spectacular floods and forest fires. They have always happened and always will. (Before anybody dreamed up the global warming nonsense)

Most of our fires are caused by human error, discarded cigarettes, idiots deliberately lighting fires for a bit of excitement. I even suspect climate alarmists doing it to prove a point.

The last thread I read on here about British weather was all about how cold it is, people have their heating on, and their oodies, people flocking to the beach because it actually reached 19 degrees the other day. It’s June for goodness sake, it should be warm, no wonder people can’t wait to jump on a plane and get a bit of sunshine.

Well, I’m off to the beach now. Got my water, my phone, my hat, my sunscreen and a good book.

oh and if the burger van is there today I might have a double decker, while it’s still allowed, before the climate zealots ban cows.

It won't happen. People don't want to confront the reality. It's all going to be a big surprise.

Hmm..he made a mistake...we can all do that..v sad

@RogueFemale I really hope this becomes part of the conversation around his death.

@Poettree To clarify, my post of 02:21 was before I'd read your 02:20 post. Totally agree with you. People need to wake up.

Haven't rtft but I can imagine that bravado was involved at some point in the whole thing

There's also a sure and slow mass suicide ongoing. Climate change will destroy. You ain't seen nothing yet.

What it makes me think is of how hard those beautiful places are being hit by climate change. And the irony that a man who brought the benefits of the Mediterranean lifestyle and diet to so many dying of heat exhaustion.

I have been to Symi twice and last time I went it was unbearably hot. The year before on another island there were bush fires on the hills near our villa.

This year is no different. He wasn't stupid, he got caught out by the increased heat.

Last year when the hotel in Rhodes was burning I realised there was no way in good conscience I could fly my family to the Med for our summer holiday, so we caught a train somewhere local.

Climate breakdown is here, and it's not coming for our grandkids, it's coming for us. Sorry to be doom and gloom but his death should be a warning for us all that our current way of life (and I know it's not everyone, some of us don't fly and live very sustainably) is coming to an end and if we can learn anything from this it's that the planet is heating up and we need to do everything we can now to stop it.

I don't think I am too bothered by this kind of thing. I've always had a bit of a fatalistic streak though. Life it short, in the great scheme of things, whether you have 60 years or 80, and it always ends the same way. It's not unsure, it's about the surest thing there is.

I have had bad news recently about a few people. My friend, in her mid 40s, who will likely die of cancer in the next few years, my partner, in his early 60s, also has cancer unexpectedly but so far we don't know the likely outcome.Life does seem fragile in many ways. But I never feel likely I shouldn't live life because of it, the opposite really.

On the nail.

I’m feeling the same op. It’s such a shock and I keep thinking about how they went on holiday and expected just to have a nice time and this is how it all ended. It’s horrific. I’m not so scared of myself doing something like that, I’m more scared that people around me that I love will make silly choices that will lead to this sort of thing. I can’t bare the thought of my DP passing suddenly, or friends/family.

That is like my Dad. He was up a ladder cleaning his gutters at 87. He was a bit of a star at.his doctor's surgery - he phoned in for an appointment when he was 80. They had no record of him. They asked when.he had last visited the doctor. He told them 1939. He remembered the year because it was just after war broke out. Like your DH ,@PadstowGirl , he thought old age was a state of mind. He never ever felt old.

Others from sudden accidents or undetected health issues. We can not control things as much as we think we can.
All we really have is now.

Yep and this. I am reminded of my school friend and teammate. She died when we were in our final year of high school as she was walking to one of the classrooms. Her heart stopped, she collapsed on the stairs and was rushed to hospital. She never woke up again.

She had been complaining of an headache the night before but nothing major. Apparently she had been born with a heart problem no one including her or her family knew about it. This was a healthy looking physically fit girl who played sports every week for the school team. It was horrendous and changed our final year at school.

It’s partly why I can’t get depressed about getting older. I know it’s a privilege.

So true. I have a childhood friend who has 3 kids, never been on holiday abroad in her life and I’ve said to her she should come on a girls holiday, she says she won’t until she can afford to pay for the whole family even though her kids are old enough (12-17) to stay at home with her partner.

So many things she’s never did even locally like a spa weekend or an overnight trip with just her partner or just her friends . She always makes plans for things she will do with me when the kids are adults and I just think wow you’re in good health now and taking it for granted that you always will be.

I can’t imagine what it’s like for you but I have had temporary post viral fatigue a number of times, and each time it happens it totally changes my life for a few months until it goes away .

That’s very unfortunate you haven’t recovered, hopefully one day you (and other long covid sufferers) will.

I also know someone who died walking home drunk. His friends would not let him drive. But I had not known that walking home drunk is also extremely dangerous. Apparently he could walk upright fine, but was very tipsy. But he would have had poor judgement of speed and distance and tried to cross the road when a car was going too fast along the road.
People die every day. Some from long illnesses. Others from sudden accidents or undetected health issues. We can not control things as much as we think we can.
All we really have is now.

@Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice that is simply not true. Dropping dead suddenly always has a cause, and those vary. A relative of mine dropped dead after an aneurysm in her sixties. She had a weak vessel in her brain that she was born with, but had been undetected all her life. My dad dropped dead after he tripped going downstairs and sustained unusual serious injuries from what should have been a minor fall.

It just said that he may have had heat stroke. It's just a possibility. Nothing has been confirmed apart from no injuries.

Dropping dead suddenly is often the culmination of a lifetime of poor diet and lifestyle choices.

Buses are fairly easy to spot.

Do you make a point of posting arsehole comments when those things happen to people?

Mocking you for having an increasingly commonplace bit of safety kit? It's a "them not you" situation. Pay no attention.

I don't think it should take a stranger that occasionally appears on TV to appreciate the fragility of life.

But I understand how it might be a useful reminder.