To find what’s happened to Michael Mosley quite anxiety provoking

Carpe diem - none of us are getting out of here alive !

You could look at it the other way op and think that you might go at any time, so why not live your best life?

MM could have been sitting in bed and had a heart attack. Maybe it was just his time to go.

What a horrible thread. Hope his wife isn’t a mumsnetter.

I don’t know why any of you are shocked, you just not get out much. Work in trauma or A&E, this happens every day to anyone and everyone.

Deathrates in big cities in recent heatwaves have spiked. Climate change will be a factor in many of our deaths if it's not already. My mother died of a catastrophic stroke on the hottest day of the year in 2022. Sure there were other factors (AF and stress of living with my dad who had dementia - and she was refusing help) - but the trigger was the heat. No question. Doctor confirmed it.
Saying there'll be more deaths like MM's due to climate change is not scaremongering. It's fact.

But I get the general anxiety. me and DH are fit. DH is bordering on athlete fit at 63. But MM's death shows that sh_t happens. DH's sister is obese (is a GP) as is her her DH and children. i joke that they'll live longer than us and that will be annoying.

Ah you are outing yourself now as one of those conspiracy theorists. Did you have a chip inserted over the pandemic?

So true! My dad was very active but had a bit of a pot belly even though he exercised daily. He had recently had a full medical check up which gave him a clean bill of health, yet he dropped dead at the age of 54. In the post mortem, they said he had a massive heart attack in his sleep. None of the tests he had previously showed he had a heart condition, I guess when your time is up, it is over. Till then enjoy life.

You do realise that the way you make your own money is totally based off someone else's ideas, right? You didn't invent whatever it is that you do, and nor does 99.999% of the world's population. We all take other people's ideas and run with them. Fair play to him, he was a journalist and he made his money by popularising science for the masses.

There is cctv of the end of his walk. Showing where he went.

statistically speaking you’re very unlikely to meet some kind of strange and early demise. In terms of making the best decisions to keep yourself safe - people need to respect the heat. As an Australian I respect it, and I’m perplexed by others I know who have grown up around it who don’t - taking off for runs on 38 degree days and such. It’s very silly. People from milder climates need to be aware. We see a lot of drunk, crispy dehydrated Brits around here in summer. Alcohol makes heat all the more dangerous. Not that MM is in that category, but nonetheless, it’s a valuable lesson.

As someone said, his style of intermittent Fasting was initially someone else's idea and he made it his own.
Fair play to the man. Maybe he trade marked the 5-2? 🤔
All his Podcasts and tv shows are based around current or ancient theories.

This was his second stay with friends on Symi.
None of us know yet if he had made similar hikes before and what type of conversations or advice he had been given about the route?
Sure he made his own mind up though.

And perhaps you could read up on the facts that the reef is flourishing, not disappearing.

We have always had fire and flood and drought. The longer fire season might have something to do with the stupid lefties banning burn offs and closing the fire trails in the national parks. You can’t even collect fire wood anymore, you have to leave it there until the next bush fire comes around and it goes up twice as bad as in the past.

The 4x4 clubs used to keep the trails open but now they are not allowed in the forests the trails have all over grown, fire trucks can’t get through so guess what?

And yes, too many lefty, teal, woke idiots interfering with the natural order of things and making everything worse.

But you keep beating the climate change drum and when you are sitting in the dark because your solar panels are not producing and there isn’t enough power in the grid because the idiots closed down too many coal fired power stations and they have outlawed nuclear, then you can blame who exactly??

And don’t be expecting to charge that electric car either, now we have smart meters they can switch us off just like that.

Perhaps she doesn't want to come and is being polite. I can't think of much I'd like to do less than a 'girls holiday' or a 'spa weekend'.

Yes OP I get it. When you get a bit older you become more aware of your fragility. All you can do is try and minimise the risks while still living and enjoying life. I think Michael Moseleys death has hit people hard as his whole life was lived with a focus on living longer, but through a couple of simple decisions he lost his life so easily. I wonder if his healthy lifestyle gave him a false sense of security. The scary thing is that whether we like it or not, no matter how much we look after our health, no matter how cautious we are, luck also plays a part.

Perhaps while you’re there you can read up on the increasing issues Australia is experiencing with bushfires, droughts, floods, longer fire seasons. Or you could take a trip out to see the bleached coral of your sadly disappearing reef.

Or I guess you could just bury your head in the sand and mutter to yourself about it all being rubbish. What do the Earth’s scientists know eh, bunch of woke idiots trying to stop you eating burgers.

I don’t know why but the threads about Michael Mosley have bought some really odd people crawling out of the woodwork.

I totally agree with you especially as Ive been listerning to his pod cast. Its really said but he really should have known better, he was an intelligent man so why did he do it?, was he trying to push hisself we will never know, but you never know whats round the corner but if you worry about it you would never get out of bed.

Irregardless of his 1 mistake that cost him his life, he was a pretty amazing man. He helped me to lose a lot of weight after my first pregnancy, when I was obese.

It was through him that I learned about the Mediterranean diet and intermittent fasting.

Going to listen to his Just One Thing podcast now.

I have to say I'm disgusted by the keyboard warrior attitudes and blame / unhelpful fingerpointing on here.

For those of us who have lost loved ones and have to live without them due to accidents, sudden death from heart attacks, other mishaps do you realise how vile and crass you sound?

Do you have the stats you mention?

OP let me tell you something - I did get hit by a bus. Not literally, but a few years ago I was in an very unlikely accident that caused positional asphyxia and cardiac arrest, outside of a hospital setting. I died for 2 minutes. The reason I'm here typing this is that there happened to be paramedic closeby who gave me CPR and I was very close to a hospital.

I remember absolutley nothing about this. My memory skips directly from about 2 days before this, to waking up in ICU a few days later. I was in a coma for 2 days, but when I woke up, I was surpsingly well. Obviously very bruised etc but all vitals good and brain intact. From my perspective, it didn't happen. Its just a 'nothing' in my memory.

I used to be very scared of death. Not of dying, of death itself. But now I'm not. Because there's nothing to be scared of. When I die (for good), I won't be there. There will be no 'me' to be. I was quite disturbed for a few months after this happened, but now - I'm happier. I'm a happier person. I worry less. I quit a job I hated. I moved back to my favourite city. I enjoy my life. We truly do not know when our time is up. It could be today. It could be tomorrow. And it doesn't matter. All that matters is we make the best of the time we have. I think Dr. Mosely made a huge impact in the time he was here. He lived well, and we'll remember him as a good man. That's what counts. I just hope he didn' t suffer, or if he did, that it was quick.

Such a sad thing to happen. I don't think it was stupid of him. He just went to walk back to his hotel with an umbrella for shade, appropriately dressed and probably stopped to drink water in the town.
It's not a big place so he likely thought it'd be a nice walk.
He walked a lot and took a keen interest in his health so would have felt fitter than many younger people.

I've been in 40 degrees heat abroad and to me in the shade it really doesn't feel unpleasant it is quite calming actually - unlike in British sun which a tiny glimpse of feels brutal to me!
He was just living life like we all do and a combination of factors led to his death- most things are half chance anyway.

I read about a couple that were killed by a lorry that slammed into them at a junction on a quiet road just because the driver was momentarily distracted looking at his satnav driving in an unfamiliar area. People love to judge as it brings comfort to know why it happened but in reality most people have done things they could easily have died from several times in their lives. I nearly got crashed into a lorry once for a split second decision but the other driver's reactions happened to be quick enough at that exact moment it avoided an accident.
I know of other deaths like slips in the shower which are unlucky but I've nearly done myself.
Had Michael been lost for five mins less he would have got to the hotel and it would have been a non-event. 💔
Yes don't be conoletely wreckless in life but know that more often than not people do survive masses of things anyway. He had good innings and a blessed life. He was one of the lucky and health conscious ones to live to his age though I wish he could have had the opportunity to say goodbye to his loved ones. It's mad to me that people are angry with him!!!
Maybe it was just "his time" anyway he may have passed away in England soon anyway if he had an underlying medical issue he didn't know about. My thoughts go to him and his family. I was a fan of all of his work. Such a lovely guy.

I think what you've done is very sensible given that you hike alone. I don't hike alone but my DH and I have got lost when walking a few times with a couple of hairy situations. It's really easy to do. I also like watching/listening to "survival" programmes and podcasts where people have survived against the odds. One thing I've realised is how very easy it is to go from everything being fine and "safe" to "we're in a survival situation" in the blink of an eye. All you need is a fall, a change in weather, getting lost etc etc and suddenly you are in trouble. So I have considered getting something like the garmin for DH and I as the biggest issues often come from not being able to contact anyone for help and/or people not being able to find you. However we don't walk very often any more (due to my poor health) and thankfully Apple phones now have a way of using satellites in an emergency where there is no signal available.

Maybe you ought to get your relatives to listen to this podcast. Might make them rethink their weird attitude to you taking sensible precautions!...

https://music.amazon.co.uk/podcasts/226b18ec-31b0-49c2-8ab0-55021a8f025b/real-survival-stories?ref=dmshh_HCuYsZhRmsOG3cJ3Qj5wehkiq

This. All the people and resources looking for him. He went alone, without informing anyone and without basic kit ( look at his shoes, not for scrambling over rocks and stones), no water.

Realistically, and statistically, it is highly likely his widow will remarry in around 5 years.

This thread is beginning to feel like Covid all over again. The sniping at others for not hiding in their homes for 2 years and not wearing triple masks and hazmat suits 2 years later.

Some folks take more risks, some never take any. Both can be bad for you.