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Not to see in-laws knowing dh wont go without me?

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sleepworking · 10/06/2024 15:03

Back story is that I met dh 15 years ago in our early 20s when he lived at home with his family who are all very close and involved with each others lives and called, text each other multiple times a day and spend all their free time together and are all very involved with each other's lives I found this quite invasive as I am close to my family but we have our individual independence.

After many years of his mum needing to know every inch of our lives and feeling under constant family surveillance I decided I didn't want anything to do with them anymore.
Dh supports my decision but has insisted that he won't see them unless I go too, which I think he says to show his support to me but I can see it gets to him, I have never stopped him from seeing his family ever but I have said I don't want anything to do with them and I'm not spending anymore time or energy on them for my own well being.
What he does is up to him.

They have now taken the stance that I am controlling and want dh all to myself and that's why I'm keeping dh away from his family.

Should I see them for his sake or continue no contact knowing dh insists he wont see them either then.

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FakeMiddleton · 10/06/2024 17:11

Hoppinggreen · 10/06/2024 15:06

You are under no obligation to go but your H is being a bit of a weasel to be honest.

This.

He's using you as the scapegoat.

I would remain firm and not see them. He's a big boy; he can grow his own spine and go or not go.

saraclara · 10/06/2024 17:05

So have you asked him why he won't go alone? And if so, what did he say?

FOJN · 10/06/2024 17:01

ChinaBlueBell · 10/06/2024 15:19

One day his parents will be long gone and forever and a day your husband will harbour resentment towards you. Is this what you really want?

You'd have a point if she was trying to stop him seeing his family, she isn't.

Husband can't be arsed to make the effort and is happy for his family to blame OP.

Quitelikeit · 10/06/2024 16:59

Well he is not really supporting you then is he?!

He is trying to back you into a corner until you feel like you have to go with him.

Do they even know you have decided this? Maybe he is to scared to tell them? Hence him saying he is not going until you do

sleepworking · 10/06/2024 16:51

Do you have any children

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vanillaclouds · 10/06/2024 16:46

Look up enmeshed family and I think you'll recognise what you're in.
It's toxic and sounds like you were an outsider to this for 15 years.

Do you have any children?

beergiggles · 10/06/2024 16:39

I agree with pps. OP, your H doesnt want to deal with his family either, he hopes he can guilt/manipulate you into being his human shield.

SomewhereOverTheHill · 10/06/2024 16:36

Your DH probably deep down feels as suffocated by his family as you do. He will have grown up not being able to do anything without being watched and controlled if MIL is like you say she is. IMO your DH is being a coward and hiding behind your decision so he can blame you, without taking accountability for the fact that he also doesn’t want to see them. If he wanted to see them, he would regardless. He’s an adult.
I wouldn’t give it a second though - let your DH and in-laws figure it all out themselves. Just keep reminding your DH he is free to see them whenever he wants and tell him you aren’t taking responsibility for his inaction.

WallaceinAnderland · 10/06/2024 16:34

I would just leave him to it and not give it another moment's thought. He's a grown man. If he wants to see his family he will. If he doesn't he won't. No need to over complicate matters.

BMW6 · 10/06/2024 16:33

sleepworking · 10/06/2024 16:05

I went no contact because there's no in between she won't be told to mind her own business and nobody would dare say that to her and she'd would have a child like tantrum until she got her way, it's her way or the highway and all her family behind her so if you dare upset her or she doesn't feel she got the right respect you have the whole family to answer to.

Right, so I'd just send a text to all telling them that you have not stopped DH from seeing them, that he is welcome to and his decision whether to or not.

Lavenderflower · 10/06/2024 16:30

It appears your husband is being manipulative - perhaps he is hoping you'lll back down.

curious79 · 10/06/2024 16:29

They must be more to this story. I mean it’s one thing to be very involved to going absolutely no contact. That’s absurd. Your husband saying he won’t see them at all unless you’re there. That’s also absurd. What are you leaving out here?

LittleLegsKeepGoing · 10/06/2024 16:27

Honestly, I wouldn't bother sending a message. I stepped back from facilitating contact between my husband and his family (because they showed me exactly what they thought of me...which wasn't pleasant).

I will still visit them as a family and be polite, on the once in a blue moon occasions when they grace us with a visit I'm also polite - I just refuse to be the one to make things happen anymore.

Despite this, I'm the world's worst daughter in law because I'm stopping my husband and children from having a relationship with them. Nope, I'm just not facilitating it. My husband is welcome to sort things out himself but can't be bothered. He's made it clear to his mother that the lack of effort is his not mine but she won't hear any of it.

My point is, unless you do exactly what your in laws want you'll always be the villain so I'd continue to chose your method. The only thing I would add, is have a serious word to your husband about being a spineless prat and how unattractive a quality it is. If he wants a relationship with his family, then he needs to make the effort! Stay well out of their interfering nonsense.

Happyinarcon · 10/06/2024 16:25

I hope it’s not one of those situations where you have told your partner he can see his family, but he gets the silent treatment if he does.

RoseUnder · 10/06/2024 16:18

sleepworking · 10/06/2024 16:05

I went no contact because there's no in between she won't be told to mind her own business and nobody would dare say that to her and she'd would have a child like tantrum until she got her way, it's her way or the highway and all her family behind her so if you dare upset her or she doesn't feel she got the right respect you have the whole family to answer to.

But what do you have to lose?
If you're already no contact.
Send this message - by physical postcard if you like!
And then be done with it.
What would she do to you in retaliation? Whatever she does can't be any worse that what she's already doing - and you've already taken the nuclear option to go non-contact!

Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 10/06/2024 16:14

I have got anm friend who sounds like your MIL op and honestly l pity her future DIL. I personally couldn't go NC with dh's family but l do understand sometimes it's the only way if boundaries and privacy are totally ignored

Oceancolorseen · 10/06/2024 16:09

Unless there is a giant back story or toxicity YABU to declare not seeing them all. It is controlling bc he has to explain your absence and I imagine it’s not a good feeling. You a bu.

sleepworking · 10/06/2024 16:05

BMW6 · 10/06/2024 15:38

I think I'd simply tell them that you've made it clear to DH that he can see them whenever he likes and you have never (and would never) ask him to stop seeing them.

I do wonder why you found it necessary to stop seeing them at all, I presume even weddings etc?
Were they rude or offensive?

People who ask too many questions can always be told to MYOB. They can be kept at arms length, not invited round/in, seen only once or twice a year, so I wonder why the total NC?

I went no contact because there's no in between she won't be told to mind her own business and nobody would dare say that to her and she'd would have a child like tantrum until she got her way, it's her way or the highway and all her family behind her so if you dare upset her or she doesn't feel she got the right respect you have the whole family to answer to.

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RoseUnder · 10/06/2024 16:03

Just take matters into your own hands.

Text them (individually if you're not in the group anymore) and say "Hi, just to clarify, DH is free to come and visit you any time he likes - I encourage him to do this. So if he's not coming to see you, it's entirely down to him. Suggest you speak to him directly. Best regards, xxx:"

Honesty and clarity to stop the drama (your drama at least). Simples

AnneLovesGilbert · 10/06/2024 16:03

He doesn’t want to see them. He would if he wanted to.

Commonsense22 · 10/06/2024 16:03

EatTheGnome · 10/06/2024 15:42

I woundly pander to a husband who is trying to control you by sitting back and letting his family play the bad guys so he gets sympathy from them and somewhat from you too. Mute and leave them all to it. Hw os the message even reaching you if you've stepped back? Start there.

This - it sounds to me like your husband is pressuring you into seeing them again.

ChinaBlueBell · 10/06/2024 16:00

Hoppinggreen · 10/06/2024 15:21

Why? She's not stopping him from going?
If he resents her for a choice he has made then hes's a Dick.
If DH had told me he was never visiting my Mum ever again it would have made F all difference to how often I saw her. OP's H is using her as an excuse not to go

That’s not how good marriages work. If my husband felt like that towards the woman who gave me life, then I’d have to reconsider what kind of person I’d married and whether the relationship was viable. There are obligations that come with marriage despite what people on MN may say.

Beautifulbythebay · 10/06/2024 15:59

Dh is a bloody wimp. He doesn't want to go alone so is happy for you to take the blame he stays away?

sleepworking · 10/06/2024 15:59

mrsDracoMalfoy · 10/06/2024 15:06

I think it's a bit daft to not see them at all. Could DH and you visit but make sure DH knows privacy is a big deal and they do not need to know everything.

No that wouldn't work, she'd keep asking and asking until she had every detail.
She'd be deeply offended by any type of boundary.

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Hoppinggreen · 10/06/2024 15:54

Quitelikeit · 10/06/2024 15:23

So these people were nice etc but were too close for your liking so you took it upon yourself to remove them from your life?

yabu - you should not encourage your dh to withdraw from his family and god if I was your MiL
im not sure I’d welcome you back!

Tell him to go alone

She has told him to go alone but he won't