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To not give builders food

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ThiswillDoItsfine · 10/06/2024 13:43

Help me settle this difference of opinion. I have a company coming out in 3 weeks time to install a lot of fencing. I mentioned to dh that I will get them coffee, tea, and biscuits/cookies in to have with drinks. Dh is saying just the drinks is fine, and for me to just offer it as and when. The job is going to take 2 days. I want to give the men something to eat as well, at the very least.
DH is then saying he doesn't want them trailing through the house, which I do understand. However, I was going to set a table outside with a flask, tea bags, coffee, milk & sugar, and bowl of biscuits so that they could help themselves. I thought this would be less restricting and mean that they can get it when they want, without waiting for me to ask. I also think it saves me running around when i have a child to look after. DH is saying that this is well over the top.

Is this okay? Or is it wrong i set this up outside for them? It is an outdoor job, so I thought it would be easier all around, and they'll be working hard.

Thank you.

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Portfun24 · 10/06/2024 19:31

My DH is a tradesman. He absolutely doesn't expect drinks and especially food but some people do make them drinks and offer a biscuit and occasionally a filled roll and they absolutely love and appreciate it when anyone offers anything. They don't always accept depending how busy they are and what they took themselves that day.

NotARealWookiie · 10/06/2024 19:29

I had a loft conversation which took a couple of months and I used to buy the odd pack of doughnuts, biscuits, Ice creams etc for the builders depending on the weather. It’s not obligatory but they seemed chuffed when I did!

pigsDOfly · 10/06/2024 19:28

I've had quite a few men working in the garden at different times.

I always offered them drinks, most have declined as they seem happy to go to a local café during their breaks and otherwise bring their own drinks.

During a particularly hot summer, the only request I had for drinks was one of the young men asking if I'd mind filling up his water bottle.

And regarding the use of the loo, something else I always offer and never been taken up on, because, as your DH said, they have a bottle in the van, or so one man told my neighbour, who was also having work done by the same men.

Can't see that you need to provide them with an endless supply of biscuits. They're there to work, not eat biscuits all day.

LifeInTheRaw · 10/06/2024 19:19

Just a thought to put you off supplying "breakfast"..,,
What if one or more of them are vegetarian/vegan?
Nah, a two day job fencing, I would think that hot/cold drinks, the biscuits you describe.., the choc bars are a very generous addition, but I must admit is thoughtful and will probably be very much appreciated by them.
With the loo situation, you can't tell what weather conditions will have been like, so even if it's not raining on the two days, the ground may be muddy..,
Just lay some old worksheets on the area from entrance door to the convenience, and all should be fine.
Hope they do a good job for you, and that you (and your worried husband) will be more than satisfied.,,,

CrispieCake · 10/06/2024 19:15

Biscuit tin outside and offer a hot drink morning and afternoon - I usually offer at 10am and 3pm, as that's when I tend to have my coffee break when I'm wfh.

Of course they need access to the loo.

RainbowsAreNotTheOnlyFruit · 10/06/2024 19:02

Your DH is totally unreasonable for thinking/expecting tradesmen to wee in a bottle 🤢
I’ve had a basement conversion done this year and was happy for everyone to use the downstairs loo inside, though the builders offered to hire a portaloo. (not all have hand basins) They kept it immaculately clean and even supplied their own loo roll.
Hot drinks and a tin of biscuits are both an icebreaker and a way to show your appreciation. You don’t need to go over the top baking homemade cakes- but do if you want to.
Your idea to set up a drinks station is great & exactly what I do, though on a bigger job we’ve also made the first cup of the day so that we can talk things through if we need to. It’s so much easier to have a (difficult) conversation about progress, costs etc over a cuppa!

ThiswillDoItsfine · 10/06/2024 18:37

Ohnobackagain · 10/06/2024 18:31

@ThiswillDoItsfine OMG a pee bottle hahaha. Maybe you need to be out and DH can stay home showing himself up. I always offer tea/biscuits/loo break. Last person didn’t use any which is his choice. But most do. And yes, if you don’t want to keep offering, a kettle and stuff outside is also fine …

😂 I know it's grim, this imo is their place of work, and that comes with a toilet as a basic requirement! I have told dh this.

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ThiswillDoItsfine · 10/06/2024 18:31

Hobbesmanc · 10/06/2024 18:16

I can't imagine having anyone round and not offering a hot or cold drink. Even the window cleaner if I'm in. It's just common courtesy. Maybe biscuits. We've had a lot of tradespeople recently doing a fairly big refurb so I bought some cheap chunky mugs that I wasn't bothered about breaking. And of course they can use the loo. Honestly how inhospitable must you be to lock them out

Wouldn't provide anything else usually although when we had the same team for several weeks I did a Greg's brekkie run a couple of Fridays. They were lovely workers and deserved a treat

We clean our own windows, so we don't have that issue. When we did have one, he was around and done in about 10 mins, we must have a small house 😂

Locked out of where? I wouldn't expect the men in the house unless they need the toilet; I will tell them where this is when they arrive. It is a downstairs one, but in the middle of the house. Outside of the toilet, they don't need to come in when it is a 2 day outside job building a fence. They work for a company, so it'll be in their best interests to get the job done promptly, as it'll mean they can have an earlier finish!

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Ohnobackagain · 10/06/2024 18:31

@ThiswillDoItsfine OMG a pee bottle hahaha. Maybe you need to be out and DH can stay home showing himself up. I always offer tea/biscuits/loo break. Last person didn’t use any which is his choice. But most do. And yes, if you don’t want to keep offering, a kettle and stuff outside is also fine …

gotthearse · 10/06/2024 18:28

Treat others as you would like to treated yourself.

I would always leave tea and coffee and packet of biccies out on the side and tell them to help themselves as and when they wanted. And of course let them know where the loo is if they need it.

Respect your trades and they will respect you.

EdithArtois · 10/06/2024 18:28

I let them help themselves to tea and coffee and would provide sweet treats. I put some sheets down so they can get to the loo without taking boots off

ThiswillDoItsfine · 10/06/2024 18:25

godmum56 · 10/06/2024 17:45

I do the outside setup thing if they are going to be there for more than an hour or two. Definitely biscuits and I make sure they are the good biscuits. If the job is a grubby one, I get individually wrapped ones so none get wasted. I have found that all the people I have had in to do work notice and are appreciative.

Yes, I do individually wrapped too. I'm worried it'll rain and I won't be able to do the outside set up. I'm thinking i'll have to have a table indoors just inside from the back garden. I'm thinking if this is the case, I'll leave the snacks/pop and water out permanently, and just ask as and when about the hot drinks. I might ask if Dh is working from home, then I can get him to serve "as and when."" 😂

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Floorbard · 10/06/2024 18:24

Bignanna · 10/06/2024 17:18

Other posters back me up! For whatever reason, most do not follow decent toilet etiquette at work. My toilet is clean, I expect it to be left like that. If I was having major work done, they’d have to arrange and clean their own portaloo!
In Spain, many years ago, builders shit in the wardrobe( empty!) of the new build. It was common practice to pee against the garden wall as well. Dirty sods!

Looks like you’ve just been unlucky, thats not been my experience at all

Floorbard · 10/06/2024 18:22

Seaweed42 · 10/06/2024 16:13

I wouldn't offer them a thing to be honest. Not in this day and age.

A man wouldn't do that, put out food for builders.

It's buying into that whole I'm a woman so I'm a servant of men and must accommodate their needs. That's just my opinion.

They can drive their van around to the shop.
If they want to use your loo that's ok but it ends there.
They won't be expecting anything and they'll have brought their own food.

If they were a bunch of friends doing a job that's fine but you are paying them for a service.
They'll be charging you an arm and a bloody leg.

My dad always made tea for builders 🤷‍♀️ it’s just polite imo

Hobbesmanc · 10/06/2024 18:16

I can't imagine having anyone round and not offering a hot or cold drink. Even the window cleaner if I'm in. It's just common courtesy. Maybe biscuits. We've had a lot of tradespeople recently doing a fairly big refurb so I bought some cheap chunky mugs that I wasn't bothered about breaking. And of course they can use the loo. Honestly how inhospitable must you be to lock them out

Wouldn't provide anything else usually although when we had the same team for several weeks I did a Greg's brekkie run a couple of Fridays. They were lovely workers and deserved a treat

Ineffable23 · 10/06/2024 18:13

I'm a hot drinks and snacks but no meals person with people in for the whole day.

People just in for an hour or two will only get offered tea/coffee because I can't keep biscuits in the house because I just eat them.

Sunnyandsilly · 10/06/2024 17:51

Bignanna · 10/06/2024 17:18

Other posters back me up! For whatever reason, most do not follow decent toilet etiquette at work. My toilet is clean, I expect it to be left like that. If I was having major work done, they’d have to arrange and clean their own portaloo!
In Spain, many years ago, builders shit in the wardrobe( empty!) of the new build. It was common practice to pee against the garden wall as well. Dirty sods!

good grief. Tradesmen are people you know. Not some seperate lower race. The ones I have had I habe always been fortunate they have been polite and clean.

godmum56 · 10/06/2024 17:47

ohthejoys21 · 10/06/2024 17:08

I hate it though.. the thought of going in to clean after..

the last bloke I had in left the loo spotless and used the airfreshener.

muddyford · 10/06/2024 17:47

I provided tea, coffee and orange squash, plus digestive biscuits. On the final day I went to local creamery and bought a cream tea for six, two scones each, clotted cream and jam. I didn't do it every day of the six weeks they were working.

They used the cloakroom with no problems. But a recent visit by an engineer to have DH's stairlift serviced was awful. Grim BO and peed over DH's elevated loo seat and dribbled on the floor. Disgusting.

godmum56 · 10/06/2024 17:45

I do the outside setup thing if they are going to be there for more than an hour or two. Definitely biscuits and I make sure they are the good biscuits. If the job is a grubby one, I get individually wrapped ones so none get wasted. I have found that all the people I have had in to do work notice and are appreciative.

ThiswillDoItsfine · 10/06/2024 17:36

Getonwitit · 10/06/2024 17:09

My DH was Scaffolding a elderly couples semi , the elderly lady came out just before the lads knocked off for lunch, she insisted the guys had lunch with her and her Husband, they were treated to a full roast beef dinner served on the best china plates

Aww, they might have been lonely, that is really lovely. I'm not sure there would have been much work done though, and doing a big job after a huge meal like that would be difficult! I'd be half a sleep 😂

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Bignanna · 10/06/2024 17:20

deveronvalley · 10/06/2024 17:12

You can offer but don’t be offended if they ignore your spread! I’ve had loads of tradies in and they just want to sit in the van for their break drinking cans of monster. Haven’t had anyone accept a cuppa in years! Maybe the gaffer takes a coffee from time to time. Very rarely get anyone wanting to use the loo either, must have amazing bladders!

They probably went in the garden!

Bignanna · 10/06/2024 17:19

ohthejoys21 · 10/06/2024 17:15

I once offered workmen, my cleaner and gardeners a piece of cake which dd's friend had made for her whilst recovering from an op.

Fast forward a couple of hours and they were all talking gibberish. Turns out it was a 'magic cake'. After a lot of pearl clutching I was just happy no one died and we weren't sued..

Good job they weren’t building walls, might have ended up like the wonky pub!

Bignanna · 10/06/2024 17:18

Sunnyandsilly · 10/06/2024 17:06

That’s not my experience at al, they are all very clean.

Other posters back me up! For whatever reason, most do not follow decent toilet etiquette at work. My toilet is clean, I expect it to be left like that. If I was having major work done, they’d have to arrange and clean their own portaloo!
In Spain, many years ago, builders shit in the wardrobe( empty!) of the new build. It was common practice to pee against the garden wall as well. Dirty sods!

ohthejoys21 · 10/06/2024 17:15

I once offered workmen, my cleaner and gardeners a piece of cake which dd's friend had made for her whilst recovering from an op.

Fast forward a couple of hours and they were all talking gibberish. Turns out it was a 'magic cake'. After a lot of pearl clutching I was just happy no one died and we weren't sued..