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To not give builders food

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ThiswillDoItsfine · 10/06/2024 13:43

Help me settle this difference of opinion. I have a company coming out in 3 weeks time to install a lot of fencing. I mentioned to dh that I will get them coffee, tea, and biscuits/cookies in to have with drinks. Dh is saying just the drinks is fine, and for me to just offer it as and when. The job is going to take 2 days. I want to give the men something to eat as well, at the very least.
DH is then saying he doesn't want them trailing through the house, which I do understand. However, I was going to set a table outside with a flask, tea bags, coffee, milk & sugar, and bowl of biscuits so that they could help themselves. I thought this would be less restricting and mean that they can get it when they want, without waiting for me to ask. I also think it saves me running around when i have a child to look after. DH is saying that this is well over the top.

Is this okay? Or is it wrong i set this up outside for them? It is an outdoor job, so I thought it would be easier all around, and they'll be working hard.

Thank you.

OP posts:
ACynicalDad · 11/06/2024 07:12

Would always do tea/coffee, never have biscuits in the house. We use the same builder all the time so would probably offer a slice of cake etc if it had been a birthday. That’s our limit.

itsabitdamp · 11/06/2024 07:09

Your DH is a knob.

Please let them know they can use the downstairs loo and provide a tea tray, that's much more civilised!

Mintyt · 11/06/2024 06:57

Your husband is not a kind customer. Most trades will not use your toilet, but would love a cup of tea/coffee biscuit, or cold water, that's being kind. They aslo don't want to many breaks as they want to get on get finished and paid, a kind working relationship goes far.

Notthatcatagain · 10/06/2024 23:43

On a very hot day, I offer the Amazon man water. It never hurts to be nice

somethingwickedlivesnextdoor · 10/06/2024 23:35

ThiswillDoItsfine · 10/06/2024 13:49

@LlynTegid we thankfully have a downstairs toilet, as long as tjey take boots off they can use this. DH is saying they'll have a bottle in their van if they need a wee, and they will be driving off for breaks and can go in supermarket around corner. 😩

Your h sounds a bit selfish and thoughtless. Is he always like this??

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 10/06/2024 23:35

ThiswillDoItsfine · 10/06/2024 13:49

@LlynTegid we thankfully have a downstairs toilet, as long as tjey take boots off they can use this. DH is saying they'll have a bottle in their van if they need a wee, and they will be driving off for breaks and can go in supermarket around corner. 😩

My DH is self-employed in construction and I know he definitely has a bottle in his van, but I wouldn't dream of not allowing any workers to use our toilet. I also offer intermittent cups of tea/coffee if I'm about, and would allow them access to the kettle if I wasn't. I use plant-based milk though and the majority decline. No bacon butties either sorry 🤣.

Notimeforaname · 10/06/2024 23:20

DH is saying they'll have a bottle in their van if they need a wee, and they will be driving off for breaks and can go in supermarket around corner. 😩

Does your husband piss in a bottle at work himself when there is an adequate toilet nearby? Fuckin hell.

That is a last resort for someone working on the move/on the road, disgraceful to even think about having someone step away from your perfectly available toilet in order to piss into a bottle in the back of a van.
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Mig25 · 10/06/2024 23:16

ThiswillDoItsfine · 10/06/2024 13:49

@LlynTegid we thankfully have a downstairs toilet, as long as tjey take boots off they can use this. DH is saying they'll have a bottle in their van if they need a wee, and they will be driving off for breaks and can go in supermarket around corner. 😩

Seriously? These workers are human beings, not animals, who can go wee in a bottle in their van if they need to. What if they need to go for a poo? I suppose they should carry around an ice cream bucket for that?I can’t believe your DH actually said that. I’d be totally embarrassed if I were married to such a turnip of a man.

CJ0374 · 10/06/2024 23:11

@Mig25 - I was following from another poster further up that found 'in general' the British workpeople would have tea/coffee/biscuits, whereas Eastern European workpeople 'in general' thought it odd and always bought along their own. Apologies I didn't link their post to add the context and didn't mean to cause any offence.

cherish123 · 10/06/2024 23:08

They usually bring their own thermos/water/food.

Mig25 · 10/06/2024 23:05

CJ0374 · 10/06/2024 15:39

We've just spent 2yrs renovating. Some builders were here for weeks, other trades just a day or 2. Some tips:

  • Get sugar cubes. Less messy and less likely to get ants after the tea table is packed up
  • Add a rubbish bag or 3. I found wrappers pushed into scaffolding poles, hidden in by plant pots and cans pushed between rocks!
  • Most appreciated some biscuits, but some didn't eat cake or sweet things at all
  • 2 Romanian men clearing the garden, took the entire biscuit packet. It was unopened, but I didn't expect them to take the whole pack home!
  • Put down flattened, large cardboard boxes to protect your floor to the bathroom
  • On very hot days, I left out an ice box with some cool drinks/water in, and sometimes offered ice lollies

For the entire 2 years, majority of work people went to the local shops to get lunch and presumably used the loos there. I only had 1 issue with the toilet, from a man that was just there for the day. He left the worse poonami I've ever seen which somehow exploded upwards, leaving shite all UNDER the toilet seat and around the bowl. No attempt to clear any of it off either 😡

What does the fact that they’re Romanian have to do with anything? Why can’t you just say two workmen clearing the garden took the biscuit pack with them. What does their nationality have to do with anything?

PeonyAndBlushSuede · 10/06/2024 22:18

Bignanna · 10/06/2024 13:52

No, but if there’s a cafe nearby, I would hope they’d go there. I hate workmen using our loo

What if the cafe hates workmen using their loo too? What if they don’t buy anything from the cafe and just waltz in to use their toilets. Is that acceptable???

If you book tradesmen to do work on your property you should have some common decency to allow them to use your toilet. Jesus wept.

RampantIvy · 10/06/2024 22:14

ThinWomansBrain · 10/06/2024 22:11

Sounds far more economic to provide tea, biscuits and access to the loo instead of having them wandering off to a local cafe two or three times daily.

Yes. The job will either take longer or be left unfinished because they will be committed to the next job. They will add the cost of buying food and drinks to the bill as well.

You just have to suck it up for the sake of a few days.

ThinWomansBrain · 10/06/2024 22:11

Sounds far more economic to provide tea, biscuits and access to the loo instead of having them wandering off to a local cafe two or three times daily.

RampantIvy · 10/06/2024 22:03

Bignanna · 10/06/2024 13:52

No, but if there’s a cafe nearby, I would hope they’d go there. I hate workmen using our loo

You seriously expect them to go trooping off to a cafe to use the toilet?

They are far more likely to "water your hedge" than go off in search of a cafe. You are massively unreasonable.

Do you expect to have to go off and find a cafe for a loo visit when you are working?

5128gap · 10/06/2024 22:01

I gave mine free access to the kitchen for drinks and left them a big tin of biscuits. They'd make me a coffee sometimes. I also made them bacon sandwiches if I was around. They did a few odd jobs for me, put some furniture together and some shelves up that were nothing to do with the build, and also fed my cat when I was away a couple of days, so I was glad I'd made them welcome.

Cornflakelover · 10/06/2024 21:42

When I have had builders in I’ve always given them free access to the kettle with tea coffe milk and biscuits
along with some cold bottle of water /sqash

we had builders build a huge deck a few years ago in the middle of summer it was boiling hot
I was horrified to see that all they had was a bloody pot noodles on the first day

I went to our local bakers and got them a pasty each
( they are huge ones ) and a box a cakes each day that they worked

I didn’t have to do it but they were building a deck that I was going to be walking on so I wanted it done properly 😂

They were a lovely bunch of blokes 2 brothers and a son and they did a cracking job of my garden

Ive used them several times since for other stuff and they always do a great job
I have given there details to friend and family as a good builder / tradesman is like winning the lottery ticket

Niveeaa · 10/06/2024 20:05

I do biscuits in a tin handed over with the first round of hot drinks. Offer another mid morning and maybe an afternoon one, but theyll probably be gone by 4 anyway. And only if it's convenient for you to offer! Top up tin every so often after they've left (but I wouldn't do this on a 2 day job).

We've had a ton of works done (months); always get some biscuits and sweets in to keep them going. The odd pack of donuts or whatever, and sometimes a bottle of beer on a Friday.

I have never cooked breakfast or made a sandwich etc. I do know others do though, as a treat, especially when you've had the same team for weeks, but I don't think it's expected (not are the biscuits etc but I do think it's nice).

Oh and the loo - yes I would let them use my loo!! On big jobs they usually order a portaloo but I would never expect someone to piss in a bottle or drive to a public loo instead of using mine.

AffIt · 10/06/2024 20:04

If I've got people working outside, then I'll set up a wee area in the utility room with a kettle, tea and coffee and biscuits etc, and there's access to a cold water tap to refill water bottles.

We have a 'garden loo' which means that people can use the toilet without having to come into the main house or having to remove their shoes (it is a proper nice clean indoor loo with loo roll etc, not an outhouse or anything!).

But I do expect professional tradespeople to provide their own lunch: I'm not feeding them, I do have my own actual job to do.

Justlovedogs · 10/06/2024 20:04

ThiswillDoItsfine · 10/06/2024 13:49

@LlynTegid we thankfully have a downstairs toilet, as long as tjey take boots off they can use this. DH is saying they'll have a bottle in their van if they need a wee, and they will be driving off for breaks and can go in supermarket around corner. 😩

Haven't RTFT, but does your DH have a bottle in the car to wee in when he's at work? If not, why on Earth does he think it's OK for workmen to do this? Oh, don't tell me, workmen are 'only' workmen and don't deserve to get treated with any sort if decency and dignity in their working day. 🙄

ISpyNoPlumPie · 10/06/2024 20:01

godmum56 · 10/06/2024 19:57

that's why I would do the help yourself setup. I find acceptance/ non acceptance to be about 60/40.

Yeah agree. But it’s not a tea party!! And they aren’t guests or visitors to my home. They’re at work. In my work place, no one gives me a filled roll/stew/bacon butty/individually wrapped biscuit. Honestly, I am blown away that people do this!!! 😆

godmum56 · 10/06/2024 19:57

ISpyNoPlumPie · 10/06/2024 19:48

This is the fucking wildest thread I’ve read in a while. Does no one here have a job? Who has time for this? How are you even home all the while?

Agree with some other posters saying that it’s very unusual for tradespeople to even accept a snack/drink.

I’m not a total arse but I’m not sitting around waiting to make the next hot drink. I’ve left tea bags and coffee on the side before. We don’t ever have biscuits though - and they’ve been almost universally refused previously so I don’t buy them now.

The Russian guys who did our kitchen - lovely, but they wouldn’t even take a glass of water. Even if I was out or working upstairs, they’d still go sit in their van and eat their own packed lunch. In winter! I said sit in but they wouldn’t have it.

The toilet however, sheesh, yes of course they can use the toilet.

that's why I would do the help yourself setup. I find acceptance/ non acceptance to be about 60/40.

Feckedupbundle · 10/06/2024 19:55

I can never understand why people on here seem so reluctant to let tradespeople use their loo. How would you like it if your boss decided that you can't use the loo at work,and expected you to piss in a bottle or find the nearest cafe or supermarket? Are we a lower form of life,good enough to do the jobs that you can't or won't do,but not good enough to be shown common human decency?
I'm very thankful that none of my customers have ever had this attitude. It'd be the last time I worked for them if they did. Plus most trades have a blacklist of people with bad attitudes, non payers and people that no one wants to work for,and word gets around.

ISpyNoPlumPie · 10/06/2024 19:48

This is the fucking wildest thread I’ve read in a while. Does no one here have a job? Who has time for this? How are you even home all the while?

Agree with some other posters saying that it’s very unusual for tradespeople to even accept a snack/drink.

I’m not a total arse but I’m not sitting around waiting to make the next hot drink. I’ve left tea bags and coffee on the side before. We don’t ever have biscuits though - and they’ve been almost universally refused previously so I don’t buy them now.

The Russian guys who did our kitchen - lovely, but they wouldn’t even take a glass of water. Even if I was out or working upstairs, they’d still go sit in their van and eat their own packed lunch. In winter! I said sit in but they wouldn’t have it.

The toilet however, sheesh, yes of course they can use the toilet.

godmum56 · 10/06/2024 19:42

CrispieCake · 10/06/2024 19:15

Biscuit tin outside and offer a hot drink morning and afternoon - I usually offer at 10am and 3pm, as that's when I tend to have my coffee break when I'm wfh.

Of course they need access to the loo.

I tend to do a setup because I am not a regular break taker or hot drink drinker.